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Hi GD,
The Word was with God and was God.
Such a statement is not possible if the Word was another sentient being as natural men claimQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,18:02) Hi gadam,
Not the same .
The Word is the Spirit of Christ-of and one with the Spirit of God
Thanks for such agreement I too believe this. The problem with many here is they confuse the word 'Spirit of Christ' with 'spirit of Jesus'. As an individual Jesus should have his own spirit and he shares God's Spirit which is also called as Spirit of Christ(Anointing) if I am correct. The same is being shared with all believers(sons of God).Hi Gadam,
Read the descriptions of the death of Jesus on calvary and you will see his human spirit left him as happens when all die.
But the Spirit of the living God gave him life in the Spirit till he was raised again in his original body to fulfill the sign of JonahQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,19:37) Hi Gadam,
Read the descriptions of the death of Jesus on calvary and you will see his human spirit left him as happens when all die.
But the Spirit of the living God gave him life in the Spirit till he was raised again in his original body to fulfill the sign of Jonah
Good to note that..how about Jesus becoming life-giving spirit as mentioned in 1Cor 15:45?
“So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”[f]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.”Hi gadam,
Jesus became the second adam, the firstborn of the new creation of God of men living in the Spirit.
He is now the source of the Spirit of eternal life for all those chosen to be savedQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,20:35) Hi gadam,
Jesus became the second adam, the firstborn of the new creation of God of men living in the Spirit.
He is now the source of the Spirit of eternal life for all those chosen to be saved
Thanks for that explanation. But what is this 'first born of all creation?' If you say it was spirit – how can a spirit takes birth or created? If you say spirit is same as God's spirit- how can it takes birth or created?Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,12:46) Hi gadam.
God shares of His Spirit.
He calls it rebirth .
nICKGOD DOES NOT SHARE HIS GLORY WITH NO ONE ;
HIS INFO THAT HE GIVES TO MEN IS WHAT IS GIVEN SO THAT WE CAN BE SAVED BY GLORIFYING HIM TO THE GLORY HE DESERVES ,
REBIRTH MEAN THAT WE HAVE CHANGED OUR WICKED WAYS FOR GOD'S TRUTHFUL WAYS ,HIS WAYS ARE MADE POSSIBLE THROUGH OUR HEARTS AND SOULS BY BEING ALIGN IN HIS TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS ,ALL FUND IN HIS WRITTEN SCRIPTURES ,
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 22 2014,18:24) The Spirit came from heaven. The Spirit is of God not a sentient being.
Nick,I know you are an intelligent person. And because of that, I KNOW you can understand that anyone who said he came down from heaven, NOT TO DO HIS OWN WILL, but to do God's will, is a SENTIENT BEING.
You can see my point. And you know my point proves your theory to be WRONG.
Yet you keep on keeping on anyway, don't you?
Quote (terraricca @ May 22 2014,20:45) COMING IN THE FLESH WHY DID HE SAY IT THIS WAY 
Yeah Nick,WHY INDEED was that language used? Has any regular human being in scripture (or history in general) ever been said to have “come in the flesh” – as a way of describing the beginning of their existence on earth?
The words “MADE flesh”, and “CAME IN THE flesh”, should be telling you something, since that kind of language isn't ever used for your average human being who has never been anything besides a human being.
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 23 2014,07:37) ……the word Christ comes from the word CHRISTO'S meaning the ANOINTING……..
The Greek word “christos” means “anointed”, Gene……. not “anointing”.Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 23 2014,16:31) Certainly the Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of sonship, is the SERVANT Spirit.
God does not serve Himself but those in the Spirit of Christ do.That Spirit of Christ or Word was with God and was God in the beginning
The “servant spirit of christ” was God in the beginning? Are you sure, Nick?Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 23 2014,16:57) Hi MB.
1Cor 8
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.WE IN HIM-God the Father, the Creator, has allowed us to be one with him in the Spirit.
WE BY HIM-Jesus Christ, the instrument used by God to enable our reconciliation and that of all things.
Okay,It's good that you've FINALLY decided to address that verse.
Now let's address the other part of it:1. All things came FROM God.
2. All things came THROUGH Jesus.
Is there reason to think it is a DIFFERENT “all things” that Paul mentioned in the same one statement?
If not, then the “all things” that came from God are the very same “all things” that came through Jesus.
And you said the “all things” that came from God are literally “all things”, right?
So what would that make the “all things” that came through Jesus?
Hi MB,
It is the Spirit that was sent not a man,
or another god.
1 Peter 1:12
It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, in these things which now have been announced to you through those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven—things into which angels long to look.Hi MB,
You muddle up Jesus with Jesus Christ.
Do you not yet realise God does His work by His Spirit in His servant vessels?Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,13:27) Hi MB,
It is the Spirit that was sent not a man,
or another god.
1 Peter 1:12
It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, in these things which now have been announced to you through those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven—things into which angels long to look.
Oh, so now it is the “Holy Spirit” that said the words of John 6:38……. and not the “Spirit of Christ”?Either way Nick, whoever said those words was a SENTIENT BEING in heaven, before he was sent down from heaven to do the will of the Father instead of his own will.
You can run, but you can't hide. This truth is right there for all to see.
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