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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,09:03) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2011,06:50) Hi Gene, You know most here do not believe “The Word” is the “Spirit” of God.
Hi Ed,(1) And is the Spirit of God actually God Himself? Or is it a completely separate God?
(2) Whoever the Word was in 1:1, that person BECAME flesh, dwelled among us on earth, had the glory of God's only begotten, died, and then was raised from the dead and now sits at God's right hand.
(3) If the Word was God's Holy Spirit, then that Holy Spirit DIED at one time.
(4) If the Word = God's Spirit = God Himself, like I think you believe, then we have all kinds of problems.
(5) Because people HAVE then seen the face of God, when scripture says they haven't.
(6) And it would mean that God Himself became flesh and had a glory of HIS OWN only begotten.
(7) It would mean that God Himself DIED, raised HIMSELF from the grave, and now sits at HIS OWN right hand.
(8) Have you thought this through Ed?
peace and love,
mike
Hi Mike,1) God's spirit is God. (See John 4:24 & Acts 5:3-4)
2) John Chapter 1 doesn't say all that and you know it.
3) Jesus was 1/2 human, that part died. (See Luke 10:30-36)
4) What kind of problems?
5) How so? (See John 8:29 & John 14:9)
6) He is the one who gives glory. (See 2Cor.3:18)
7) No; why are you saying all that?
8) You bet!
Do you actually look up these corroborative verses I give you?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Pastry @ Aug. 24 2011,12:15) Quote
That's all right Irene, you are not addressing any of mine to you.
Back to topPaladin! What question???
Question?Who said anything about a question?
Why are you changing the focus now?
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2011,16:36) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,09:03) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2011,06:50) Hi Gene, You know most here do not believe “The Word” is the “Spirit” of God.
Hi Ed,(1) And is the Spirit of God actually God Himself? Or is it a completely separate God?
(2) Whoever the Word was in 1:1, that person BECAME flesh, dwelled among us on earth, had the glory of God's only begotten, died, and then was raised from the dead and now sits at God's right hand.
(3) If the Word was God's Holy Spirit, then that Holy Spirit DIED at one time.
(4) If the Word = God's Spirit = God Himself, like I think you believe, then we have all kinds of problems.
(5) Because people HAVE then seen the face of God, when scripture says they haven't.
(6) And it would mean that God Himself became flesh and had a glory of HIS OWN only begotten.
(7) It would mean that God Himself DIED, raised HIMSELF from the grave, and now sits at HIS OWN right hand.
(8) Have you thought this through Ed?
peace and love,
mike
Hi Mike,1) God's spirit is God. (See John 4:24 & Acts 5:3-4)
2) John Chapter 1 doesn't say all that and you know it.
3) Jesus was 1/2 human, that part died. (See Luke 10:30-36)
4) What kind of problems?
5) How so? (See John 8:29 & John 14:9)
6) He is the one who gives glory. (See 2Cor.3:18)
7) No; why are you saying all that?
8) You bet!
Do you actually look up these corroborative verses I give you?
God bless
Ed J
Hi Ed,I will assume that MY #4 summed up YOUR understanding, judging from the answer you gave to it. So let's work from there………………
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Now, why in the world would God Himself have a glory as of HIS OWN only begotten?
Would not God have the glory as of GOD, and not as of someone He had begotten?
mike
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,10:44) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2011,16:36) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,09:03) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2011,06:50) Hi Gene, You know most here do not believe “The Word” is the “Spirit” of God.
Hi Ed,(1) And is the Spirit of God actually God Himself? Or is it a completely separate God?
(2) Whoever the Word was in 1:1, that person BECAME flesh, dwelled among us on earth, had the glory of God's only begotten, died, and then was raised from the dead and now sits at God's right hand.
(3) If the Word was God's Holy Spirit, then that Holy Spirit DIED at one time.
(4) If the Word = God's Spirit = God Himself, like I think you believe, then we have all kinds of problems.
(5) Because people HAVE then seen the face of God, when scripture says they haven't.
(6) And it would mean that God Himself became flesh and had a glory of HIS OWN only begotten.
(7) It would mean that God Himself DIED, raised HIMSELF from the grave, and now sits at HIS OWN right hand.
(8) Have you thought this through Ed?
peace and love,
mike
Hi Mike,1) God's spirit is God. (See John 4:24 & Acts 5:3-4)
2) John Chapter 1 doesn't say all that and you know it.
3) Jesus was 1/2 human, that part died. (See Luke 10:30-36)
4) What kind of problems?
5) How so? (See John 8:29 & John 14:9)
6) He is the one who gives glory. (See 2Cor.3:18)
7) No; why are you saying all that?
8) You bet!
Do you actually look up these corroborative verses I give you?
God bless
Ed J
Hi Ed,I will assume that MY #4 summed up YOUR understanding, judging from the answer you gave to it. So let's work from there………………
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Now, why in the world would God Himself have a glory as of HIS OWN only begotten?
Would not God have the glory as of GOD, and not as of someone He had begotten?
mike
Hi Mike,The only begotten has the glory of the father, not the other way around.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,10:56) What “only begotten”, Ed?
Hi Mike,יהשוע
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,10:56) What “only begotten”, Ed?
Hi Mike,יהשוע (YÄ-shü-ă)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Paladin @ Aug. 25 2011,10:30) Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 24 2011,12:15) Quote
That's all right Irene, you are not addressing any of mine to you.
Back to topPaladin! What question???
Question?Who said anything about a question?
Why are you changing the focus now?
Paladin! Whatever I didn't address….IreneQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 25 2011,07:18) Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 25 2011,07:13) Quote Give God's spirit time to work on you.
Ok Gene….. You can't explain Rev. 19 so you have to take to belittle me, is that what it is???
Hi Irene,How is me explaining Rev.19:11-21 going to change your mind?
I have said to you many times to compare Rev.19:11-21
with Isaiah 63:2-10; that is where the answer is!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed! That is not what this is about….its about that John1:1 The Word of God, not being Gods Holy Spirit…..IreneQuote (Pastry @ Aug. 25 2011,11:33) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 25 2011,07:18) Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 25 2011,07:13) Quote Give God's spirit time to work on you.
Ok Gene….. You can't explain Rev. 19 so you have to take to belittle me, is that what it is???
Hi Irene,How is me explaining Rev.19:11-21 going to change your mind?
I have said to you many times to compare Rev.19:11-21
with Isaiah 63:2-10; that is where the answer is!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed! That is not what this is about….its about that John1:1 The Word of God, not being Gods Holy Spirit…..Irene
Hi Irene,You saying that over and over again isn't going to make it become a fact?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2011,18:28) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,10:56) What “only begotten”, Ed?
Hi Mike,יהשוע (YÄ-shü-ă)
God bless
Ed J
Oh, so Yashua was the Word who became flesh then? Good. I agree.Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,11:39) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2011,18:28) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,10:56) What “only begotten”, Ed?
Hi Mike,יהשוע (YÄ-shü-ă)
God bless
Ed J
Oh, so Yashua was the Word who became flesh then? Good. I agree.
Hi Mike,You changed the question.
You asked who was the only begotten,
not who was “The Word” that was made flesh.Ho Logos(91) = Spirit(91)
Stay on track. “The Word” was “Spirit” made flesh.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgActually Ed,
I am the one who is still on track. It IS the Word who became flesh that had the glory of an only begotten from the Father, Ed.
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2011,23:50) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 24 2011,23:27) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2011,19:06) Ho Logos(91) = Spirit(91) For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye “received the word” of God
which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth,
“The Word” of God, which effectually worketh also
“in you” that believe. (1Thess.2:13)For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man,
but the “Spirit” of God. Now “we have received”, not the spirit of the world, but the
“Spirit” which is of God; that we might know the things that are
“freely given to us” of God. (1Cor.2:11-12)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
ED J ………..This is a good and right Post brother.peace and love to you and yours……………………………gene
Hi Gene,You know most here do not believe “The Word” is the “Spirit” of God.
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
This is what you said before, now you are saying that the only begotten of the Father is Yashua….What do you believe???
IreneQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 25 2011,11:49) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,11:39) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2011,18:28) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,10:56) What “only begotten”, Ed?
Hi Mike,יהשוע (YÄ-shü-ă)
God bless
Ed J
Oh, so Yashua was the Word who became flesh then? Good. I agree.
Hi Mike,You changed the question.
You asked who was the only begotten,
not who was “The Word” that was made flesh.Ho Logos(91) = Spirit(91)
Stay on track. “The Word” was “Spirit” made flesh.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 25 2011,11:56) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2011,23:50) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 24 2011,23:27) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2011,19:06) Ho Logos(91) = Spirit(91) For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye “received the word” of God
which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth,
“The Word” of God, which effectually worketh also
“in you” that believe. (1Thess.2:13)For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man,
but the “Spirit” of God. Now “we have received”, not the spirit of the world, but the
“Spirit” which is of God; that we might know the things that are
“freely given to us” of God. (1Cor.2:11-12)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
ED J ………..This is a good and right Post brother.peace and love to you and yours……………………………gene
Hi Gene,You know most here do not believe “The Word” is the “Spirit” of God.
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
This is what you said before, now you are saying that the only begotten of the Father is Yashua….What do you believe???
Irene
Hi Irene,Could you be a tad bit more specific?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd! You know The Word of God who became flesh, the only begotten of the Father….. He is Yashua who's title is The Word of God and God…..I said all of that before… Only I did not say Yashua….. I said who became Jesus, all the same being….Peace Irene
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 25 2011,11:53) Actually Ed, I am the one who is still on track. It IS the Word who became flesh that had the glory of an only begotten from the Father, Ed.
Hi Mike,That is until that same glory is revealed in us. (See Romans 8:18 & Hebrews 11:40)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Pastry @ Aug. 25 2011,12:04) Ed! You know The Word of God who became flesh, the only begotten of the Father….. He is Yashua who's title is The Word of God and God…..I said all of that before… Only I did not say Yashua….. I said who became Jesus, all the same being….Peace Irene
Hi Irene,You and me are not on the same page here.
Perhaps you should re-read my previous posts again?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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