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- January 8, 2011 at 4:43 am#232384GeneBalthropParticipant
To All…………Here is something that will give you the answer to if Flesh and Blood can inter the kingdom of God . Can flesh and blood enter into Spirit? answer, (NO) it Can't. Spirit must enter (INTO) Flesh and Blood for it to LIVE . As a result does flesh and blood have (LIFE) (IN) it (Yes) it Does, that same thing applies to the Kingdom of GOD , Which by the way is GOD'S domain. It must come (INTO) You. ” FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD COMES NOT WITH “OBSERVATION” , BUT IS WITHIN YOU”. Does anyone here GET IT? Is there so much blindness here that you people can't even understand this simply thing? Well did Jesus say “if that Light in you be (DARKNESS) how great is that Darkness”? That statement would really fit here. IMO
Even people who know nothing about scripture can understand this , IMO
peace and love…………………………………………….gene
January 8, 2011 at 5:00 am#232385shimmerParticipantQuote (Istari @ Jan. 08 2011,10:47) Can I ask a few questions? Who was the Spiritual Leader of the Church?
Who was the Spiritual Father of Onesimus (Philemon 1)?
What does it mean to be Spiritually Inclined?
Hi Jay.Spiritual leader – a leader in all things spiritual, one who leads and inspires others ?
Second question; Paul ?
Spiritually inclined; Seeking the things of the spiritual which is different to the other things of the world ?
January 8, 2011 at 5:02 am#232386GeneBalthropParticipantTo All……………..NOTICE Jesus' words…..”THY KINGDOM COME THY (WILL) BE DONE”…. Now that alone should also tell you how God's kingdom comes (IT IS BY HIS “WILL” BEING DONE), now where is that “WILL” of God being done” it is in a person right? was it being done in Jesus a flesh and blood being YES it was. When are you people going to wake up , the kingdom of GOD is within a Person no matter if he is flesh and blood or not, GOD is Spirit and can be in all and through ALL. GET IT!, HE WAS TRULY (IN) JESUS COME ON WAKE UP PEOPLE!
peace and love…………………………………….gene
January 8, 2011 at 11:56 am#232400shimmerParticipantIrene, don't fret ! I still love and care about you.
I'm just in this amazing spiritual thing right now and am more interested in some of the things being said regarding the topic.
I apologise.
January 8, 2011 at 3:58 pm#232409mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 08 2011,01:39) JA…..I like the fact you drive the hammer here because it does get stagnate by us keep saying the same thing over and over,
Gene, I believe you are describing yourself.
January 8, 2011 at 3:59 pm#232410GeneBalthropParticipantTo All……………..Spirit is not a body it is what is in a body, That is so important to understand , God does not have a BODY HE exists (IN) Bodies. Because he is SPIRIT, if you can understand that then you can understand How GOD the Father was (IN) Jesus as Jesus said He was. “BELIEVE YOU NOT THE FATHER IS (IN) ME” IF YOU BELIEVE IT NOT THEN BELIEVE THE MIRACLES. Another words Jesus was a Man and could do (NO) Miricales himself it was GOD WHO WAS IN HIM DOING THE WORKS. “NOW (IF) THE SPIRIT THAT WAS IN CHRIST JESUS BE (IN) YOU (IT) SHALL QUICKEN (bring to life) YOUR MORTAL (BODIES) ALSO”> another words just like (IT) the SPIRIT did Jesus' BODY>
You must all drop the false (SEPARATIST )teachings of the trinitarians and preexistences that Jesus was any different then we are and start to identify with him EXACTLY AS HE WAS AND IS. Just as it say “AS HE WAS IN THE WORLD SO ARE WE”
1John 4:17….> Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgement: because as he is, so are we in this world.
Little childern do not let anyone (SEPARATE) you from Jesus in (ANY WAY). And for those who are driving the wedges between Jesus and Us making him different then we are, they have put themselves under a curse and the plague of your own (SEPARATION) FROM JESUS IS THEIR DOOM)> You want to make Jesus separate from your (identity) then he will be separate from your Identity. But all of you who do not hold to these false teachings that came of the Gnostic's , and relate with Jesus as a fellow Human Being and a true brother who gave himself for us as our (kinsman redeemer) peace and comfort from our God and Jesus Our lord, and even better our elder brother.
peace and love to you all………………………………….gene
January 8, 2011 at 5:25 pm#232418BakerParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 09 2011,01:59) To All……………..Spirit is not a body it is what is in a body, That is so important to understand , God does not have a BODY HE exists (IN) Bodies. Because he is SPIRIT, if you can understand that then you can understand How GOD the Father was (IN) Jesus as Jesus said He was. “BELIEVE YOU NOT THE FATHER IS (IN) ME” IF YOU BELIEVE IT NOT THEN BELIEVE THE MIRACLES. Another words Jesus was a Man and could do (NO) Miricales himself it was GOD WHO WAS IN HIM DOING THE WORKS. “NOW (IF) THE SPIRIT THAT WAS IN CHRIST JESUS BE (IN) YOU (IT) SHALL QUICKEN (bring to life) YOUR MORTAL (BODIES) ALSO”> another words just like (IT) the SPIRIT did Jesus' BODY> You must all drop the false (SEPARATIST )teachings of the trinitarians and preexistences that Jesus was any different then we are and start to identify with him EXACTLY AS HE WAS AND IS. Just as it say “AS HE WAS IN THE WORLD SO ARE WE”
1John 4:17….> Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgement: because as he is, so are we in this world.
Little childern do not let anyone (SEPARATE) you from Jesus in (ANY WAY). And for those who are driving the wedges between Jesus and Us making him different then we are, they have put themselves under a curse and the plague of your own (SEPARATION) FROM JESUS IS THEIR DOOM)> You want to make Jesus separate from your (identity) then he will be separate from your Identity. But all of you who do not hold to these false teachings that came of the Gnostic's , and relate with Jesus as a fellow Human Being and a true brother who gave himself for us as our (kinsman redeemer) peace and comfort from our God and Jesus Our lord, and even better our elder brother.
peace and love to you all………………………………….gene
To All! So let me ask you. Who are spiritual Bodies? Does it make us only Spiritual, since God's Holy Spirit lives in us? The question I have is does this also mean for Jesus, since it is also talking about His resurrection???1Cr 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Cr 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
Peace Irene
January 8, 2011 at 5:28 pm#232420mikeboll64BlockedBump for the wizard…………..
Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
Mikeboll64, could not stand the idea of again losing against JustAskin and brought snout the delusional idea that 'Spiritual Body' means 'Spirit Body'.
Hi Istari,I hope you are well. Someone asked Paul what kind of BODIES the dead will be raised with. Paul explained that they wouldn't be natural bodies like those of earth have, but spiritual bodies like those of heaven have.
Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
Mikeboll64 understands that it does not mean this but….did I not say it, read my back posts…has clambered his way over to now trying to say, 'Jesus alone, has a Spiritual Body AND a Spirit'.
But that's not really what I said, is it? What I said was that since Jesus is a spirit and has a body, we have CLEAR scriptural evidence that at least one spirit has a body. Are you implying that I think Jesus is the only one? Because I don't. I think Jesus has a spirtual body just like all the others spirits. Unlike you, I don't believe that Jesus is some kind of “half man, half spirit”. There is no scripture that says Jesus is still a man. There is one scripture in 2 Timothy that people like to point to, but it really doesn't say Jesus is STILL a man.On the other hand, 1 Corinthians 15:45, and 2 Corinthians 3:17-18 make it clear that Jesus is a spirit now. And Galatians 1:1 and 1:12, make it clear that he is NOT a MAN anymore. So what I think is NOT the same thing you've “been saying from the beginning”, and apparently, we still don't agree. But I'm okay with that………I love you anyway.
Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
And as for his 'bodies need separation' Yes , Mikeboll64, bodies need separation. But Spirits are not BODIES…how hard(?) is that.
I didn't say “bodies need separation” Istari, I said that BEINGS need separation. No separation – no BEINGS with an “s”.Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
Spirits are 'Everywhere all at the same time' in the Spirit Realm.
So when a third of the angels were thrown DOWN FROM HEAVEN, they were really STILL IN HEAVEN? Istari, if there is ever a place where an angel is NOT, then there is a body. Also, if all angels are “everywhere all at the same time in the Spirit Realm”, what separates the millions of them who are EVERYWHERE AT ONCE from each other?Please explain this to me in simple terms. If God created the first angel and set him in his own dimension, I could see where that first one wouldn't need a body. But as soon as the second one is added to that same dimension, there must be something that separates one from the other, or they'd just be a conglomeration of two beings merged into one being. Even if they were “layered” like Adobe Photoshop, those “layers” would be “bodies”. So are you saying that all angels have their very own dimensions? I'm not understanding it.
Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
Yes, Mikeboll64, it does indeed. How can the Demons in the Man be in him at one Moment and In the Pigs the next Moment when the pigs were 'At some distance away'?Mikeboll64, answer that question with Holy Spirit honesty and your eyes willbe opened to Spiritual grace from God.
Uh…….spirits can move real fast? Tell me how YOU think they did it AND your SCRIPTURAL support for thinking this way.Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
How did Jesus enter the room even though the doors were locked because of the Jews?
How did he walk on water when he was nothing but a flesh and blood man?Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
How did Jesus appear to over four hundred people…?
He remained on the earth for 40 days. Could you not talk to 10 people a day?Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
How did Jesus just appear with the two men walking along the road, and then disappear after they reached their destination?
How did he transfigure and glow as bright as the sun when he was but a man?Before calling me “Thomas” and “Judas”, why not try to explain yourself a little better? Because I don't have a clue as to what point you're even trying to make with these questions.
peace and love to you brother,
mikeJanuary 8, 2011 at 5:28 pm#232421terrariccaParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 09 2011,08:59) To All……………..Spirit is not a body it is what is in a body, That is so important to understand , God does not have a BODY HE exists (IN) Bodies. Because he is SPIRIT, if you can understand that then you can understand How GOD the Father was (IN) Jesus as Jesus said He was. “BELIEVE YOU NOT THE FATHER IS (IN) ME” IF YOU BELIEVE IT NOT THEN BELIEVE THE MIRACLES. Another words Jesus was a Man and could do (NO) Miricales himself it was GOD WHO WAS IN HIM DOING THE WORKS. “NOW (IF) THE SPIRIT THAT WAS IN CHRIST JESUS BE (IN) YOU (IT) SHALL QUICKEN (bring to life) YOUR MORTAL (BODIES) ALSO”> another words just like (IT) the SPIRIT did Jesus' BODY> You must all drop the false (SEPARATIST )teachings of the trinitarians and preexistences that Jesus was any different then we are and start to identify with him EXACTLY AS HE WAS AND IS. Just as it say “AS HE WAS IN THE WORLD SO ARE WE”
1John 4:17….> Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgement: because as he is, so are we in this world.
Little childern do not let anyone (SEPARATE) you from Jesus in (ANY WAY). And for those who are driving the wedges between Jesus and Us making him different then we are, they have put themselves under a curse and the plague of your own (SEPARATION) FROM JESUS IS THEIR DOOM)> You want to make Jesus separate from your (identity) then he will be separate from your Identity. But all of you who do not hold to these false teachings that came of the Gnostic's , and relate with Jesus as a fellow Human Being and a true brother who gave himself for us as our (kinsman redeemer) peace and comfort from our God and Jesus Our lord, and even better our elder brother.
peace and love to you all………………………………….gene
geneno one dispute that spirits are being angels ,but those spirits have a sort of body or form to separate them from other angels.
Pierre
January 8, 2011 at 6:03 pm#232429BakerParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2011,03:28) Bump for the wizard………….. Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
Mikeboll64, could not stand the idea of again losing against JustAskin and brought snout the delusional idea that 'Spiritual Body' means 'Spirit Body'.
Hi Istari,I hope you are well. Someone asked Paul what kind of BODIES the dead will be raised with. Paul explained that they wouldn't be natural bodies like those of earth have, but spiritual bodies like those of heaven have.
Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
Mikeboll64 understands that it does not mean this but….did I not say it, read my back posts…has clambered his way over to now trying to say, 'Jesus alone, has a Spiritual Body AND a Spirit'.
But that's not really what I said, is it? What I said was that since Jesus is a spirit and has a body, we have CLEAR scriptural evidence that at least one spirit has a body. Are you implying that I think Jesus is the only one? Because I don't. I think Jesus has a spirtual body just like all the others spirits. Unlike you, I don't believe that Jesus is some kind of “half man, half spirit”. There is no scripture that says Jesus is still a man. There is one scripture in 2 Timothy that people like to point to, but it really doesn't say Jesus is STILL a man.On the other hand, 1 Corinthians 15:45, and 2 Corinthians 3:17-18 make it clear that Jesus is a spirit now. And Galatians 1:1 and 1:12, make it clear that he is NOT a MAN anymore. So what I think is NOT the same thing you've “been saying from the beginning”, and apparently, we still don't agree. But I'm okay with that………I love you anyway.
Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
And as for his 'bodies need separation' Yes , Mikeboll64, bodies need separation. But Spirits are not BODIES…how hard(?) is that.
I didn't say “bodies need separation” Istari, I said that BEINGS need separation. No separation – no BEINGS with an “s”.Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
Spirits are 'Everywhere all at the same time' in the Spirit Realm.
So when a third of the angels were thrown DOWN FROM HEAVEN, they were really STILL IN HEAVEN? Istari, if there is ever a place where an angel is NOT, then there is a body. Also, if all angels are “everywhere all at the same time in the Spirit Realm”, what separates the millions of them who are EVERYWHERE AT ONCE from each other?Please explain this to me in simple terms. If God created the first angel and set him in his own dimension, I could see where that first one wouldn't need a body. But as soon as the second one is added to that same dimension, there must be something that separates one from the other, or they'd just be a conglomeration of two beings merged into one being. Even if they were “layered” like Adobe Photoshop, those “layers” would be “bodies”. So are you saying that all angels have their very own dimensions? I'm not understanding it.
Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
Yes, Mikeboll64, it does indeed. How can the Demons in the Man be in him at one Moment and In the Pigs the next Moment when the pigs were 'At some distance away'?Mikeboll64, answer that question with Holy Spirit honesty and your eyes willbe opened to Spiritual grace from God.
Uh…….spirits can move real fast? Tell me how YOU think they did it AND your SCRIPTURAL support for thinking this way.Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
How did Jesus enter the room even though the doors were locked because of the Jews?
How did he walk on water when he was nothing but a flesh and blood man?Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
How did Jesus appear to over four hundred people…?
He remained on the earth for 40 days. Could you not talk to 10 people a day?Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
How did Jesus just appear with the two men walking along the road, and then disappear after they reached their destination?
How did he transfigure and glow as bright as the sun when he was but a man?Before calling me “Thomas” and “Judas”, why not try to explain yourself a little better? Because I don't have a clue as to what point you're even trying to make with these questions.
peace and love to you brother,
mike
Mike! Good post and YOU know I agree……Lets just see what Gene and JA will say!!!!
Peace and Love IreneJanuary 8, 2011 at 6:18 pm#232432GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (Baker @ Jan. 09 2011,03:25) 1Cr 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. Peace Irene
To All …….> Irene changes it to SPIRIT (BODY) instead of SiIrit(UAL) Body. this is just another twisting of the words of GOD. If Paul wanted it to say a SPIRIT BODY he simply would have said SPIRIT BODY. But as anyone with the Spirit of GOD in them cane see that the (IT) sown in dishonor is the BODY not the Spirit and (IT) the BODY is raised (IN) HONOR and GLORY. the IT is the BODY. She or anyone has Yet to produce any scripture that say we become SPIRIT BODY BEINGS , why because a SPIRIT HAS NO BODY> Just that simple, don't get caught in this rubbish they teach it is a MYSTERY RELIGION.peace and love to all who love the truth……………….gene
January 8, 2011 at 6:20 pm#232435GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2011,01:58) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 08 2011,01:39) JA…..I like the fact you drive the hammer here because it does get stagnate by us keep saying the same thing over and over,
Gene, I believe you are describing yourself.
Mike………Thank you for the compliment .peace and love……………………….gene
January 8, 2011 at 6:38 pm#232446BakerParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 09 2011,04:18) Quote (Baker @ Jan. 09 2011,03:25) 1Cr 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. Peace Irene
To All …….> Irene changes it to SPIRIT (BODY) instead of SiIrit(UAL) Body. this is just another twisting of the words of GOD. If Paul wanted it to say a SPIRIT BODY he simply would have said SPIRIT BODY. But as anyone with the Spirit of GOD in them cane see that the (IT) sown in dishonor is the BODY not the Spirit and (IT) the BODY is raised (IN) HONOR and GLORY. the IT is the BODY. She or anyone has Yet to produce any scripture that say we become SPIRIT BODY BEINGS , why because a SPIRIT HAS NO BODY> Just that simple, don't get caught in this rubbish they teach it is a MYSTERY RELIGION.peace and love to all who love the truth……………….gene
Where? When I quote a Scripture, it is copied and pasted from the Internet of the Blue Letter Bible…..The scripture you quoted is from there….and it says Spiritual bodies and not what YOU say….IreneJanuary 8, 2011 at 6:43 pm#232448BakerParticipantQuote (shimmer @ Jan. 08 2011,21:56) Irene, don't fret ! I still love and care about you. I'm just in this amazing spiritual thing right now and am more interested in some of the things being said regarding the topic.
I apologise.
Shimmer! Don't worry we all will be fine ONE DAY….We just have to trust God, even though we don't always agree on everything….
Take care… Love you too IreneJanuary 8, 2011 at 6:58 pm#232451mikeboll64BlockedQuote (Baker @ Jan. 09 2011,04:38) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 09 2011,04:18) Quote (Baker @ Jan. 09 2011,03:25) 1Cr 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. Peace Irene
To All …….> Irene changes it to SPIRIT (BODY) instead of SiIrit(UAL) Body. this is just another twisting of the words of GOD. If Paul wanted it to say a SPIRIT BODY he simply would have said SPIRIT BODY. But as anyone with the Spirit of GOD in them cane see that the (IT) sown in dishonor is the BODY not the Spirit and (IT) the BODY is raised (IN) HONOR and GLORY. the IT is the BODY. She or anyone has Yet to produce any scripture that say we become SPIRIT BODY BEINGS , why because a SPIRIT HAS NO BODY> Just that simple, don't get caught in this rubbish they teach it is a MYSTERY RELIGION.peace and love to all who love the truth……………….gene
Where? When I quote a Scripture, it is copied and pasted from the Internet of the Blue Letter Bible…..The scripture you quoted is from there….and it says Spiritual bodies and not what YOU say….Irene
Hi Irene,Gene is just copying his hero, JA. It's funny, because the only one I remember using the term “spirit body” to describe what Jesus now has is Shimmer. And Shimmer says she agrees with EVERYTHING JA has said on this thread. And JA is the one railing against the use of “spirit body”.
In fact, we are able to see clearly that JA will be “nice” to those who agree with him, and in his own words (sort of), the rest of us can “go to hell”. But what's funny about it is that Shimmer and Gene DON'T REALLY EVEN AGREE WITH HIM.
Irene, you have it right. Someone asked Paul what kind of BODIES the dead will be raised with. And 1 Cor 15 is a lot of information that all boils down to this: The dead who are going to heaven will not have natural bodies like those of the earth have, but they will have spiritual bodies like those of heaven have.
And Shimmer even posted a guy named Pyles who said this very same thing, and she believes this, yet she says JA is right about everything he's said in this thread.
peace and love,
mikeJanuary 8, 2011 at 8:33 pm#232485shimmerParticipantMike, I have moved on from there, whenever that was, I said all sorts of strange thing's i'm sure.
I had to, because it's all part of learning, and all part of a journey, hell, this place is confusing, which is why I said it was so much easier just me and bod debating things, I had so much more truth back then. Everthing was so clear to me back then.
Where i'v got to in the last few day's is from God and so all that I say from now on is not what I said a week ago. My old self has gone, my new self is here, my day's of confusion have ended.
January 8, 2011 at 8:36 pm#232486shimmerParticipantQuote (Baker @ Jan. 09 2011,06:43) Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 08 2011,21:56) Irene, don't fret ! I still love and care about you. I'm just in this amazing spiritual thing right now and am more interested in some of the things being said regarding the topic.
I apologise.
Shimmer! Don't worry we all will be fine ONE DAY….We just have to trust God, even though we don't always agree on everything….
Take care… Love you too Irene
And to you Irene. Thankyou.January 9, 2011 at 2:11 am#232507GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2011,04:58) Quote (Baker @ Jan. 09 2011,04:38) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 09 2011,04:18) Quote (Baker @ Jan. 09 2011,03:25) 1Cr 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. Peace Irene
To All …….> Irene changes it to SPIRIT (BODY) instead of SiIrit(UAL) Body. this is just another twisting of the words of GOD. If Paul wanted it to say a SPIRIT BODY he simply would have said SPIRIT BODY. But as anyone with the Spirit of GOD in them cane see that the (IT) sown in dishonor is the BODY not the Spirit and (IT) the BODY is raised (IN) HONOR and GLORY. the IT is the BODY. She or anyone has Yet to produce any scripture that say we become SPIRIT BODY BEINGS , why because a SPIRIT HAS NO BODY> Just that simple, don't get caught in this rubbish they teach it is a MYSTERY RELIGION.peace and love to all who love the truth……………….gene
Where? When I quote a Scripture, it is copied and pasted from the Internet of the Blue Letter Bible…..The scripture you quoted is from there….and it says Spiritual bodies and not what YOU say….Irene
Hi Irene,Gene is just copying his hero, JA. It's funny, because the only one I remember using the term “spirit body” to describe what Jesus now has is Shimmer. And Shimmer says she agrees with EVERYTHING JA has said on this thread. And JA is the one railing against the use of “spirit body”.
In fact, we are able to see clearly that JA will be “nice” to those who agree with him, and in his own words (sort of), the rest of us can “go to hell”. But what's funny about it is that Shimmer and Gene DON'T REALLY EVEN AGREE WITH HIM.
Irene, you have it right. Someone asked Paul what kind of BODIES the dead will be raised with. And 1 Cor 15 is a lot of information that all boils down to this: The dead who are going to heaven will not have natural bodies like those of the earth have, but they will have spiritual bodies like those of heaven have.
And Shimmer even posted a guy named Pyles who said this very same thing, and she believes this, yet she says JA is right about everything he's said in this thread.
peace and love,
mike
Mike……….Another or you misunderstood statements I have been saying Spirit do not have bodies for years even on here, before i even knew JA ever existed. Just another of you misrepresenting of the truth. Which i might say you are very good at. IMOpeace and love………………………gene
January 9, 2011 at 2:19 am#232508GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (Baker @ Jan. 09 2011,04:38) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 09 2011,04:18) Quote (Baker @ Jan. 09 2011,03:25) 1Cr 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. Peace Irene
To All …….> Irene changes it to SPIRIT (BODY) instead of SiIrit(UAL) Body. this is just another twisting of the words of GOD. If Paul wanted it to say a SPIRIT BODY he simply would have said SPIRIT BODY. But as anyone with the Spirit of GOD in them cane see that the (IT) sown in dishonor is the BODY not the Spirit and (IT) the BODY is raised (IN) HONOR and GLORY. the IT is the BODY. She or anyone has Yet to produce any scripture that say we become SPIRIT BODY BEINGS , why because a SPIRIT HAS NO BODY> Just that simple, don't get caught in this rubbish they teach it is a MYSTERY RELIGION.peace and love to all who love the truth……………….gene
Where? When I quote a Scripture, it is copied and pasted from the Internet of the Blue Letter Bible…..The scripture you quoted is from there….and it says Spiritual bodies and not what YOU say….Irene
Irene………..If what you say you quote scriptural as it is written true, then How do you get a SPIRIT BODY out of a Spiritual Body. I suppose if i said the man was GODLY that would mean to you he is a GOD MAN right , So Jesus who you say is the “WORD” is GOD because it say the WORD (IS) GOD. So it's back to your trinitarian roots right?gene
January 9, 2011 at 2:23 am#232509terrariccaParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 09 2011,19:19) Quote (Baker @ Jan. 09 2011,04:38) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 09 2011,04:18) Quote (Baker @ Jan. 09 2011,03:25) 1Cr 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. Peace Irene
To All …….> Irene changes it to SPIRIT (BODY) instead of SiIrit(UAL) Body. this is just another twisting of the words of GOD. If Paul wanted it to say a SPIRIT BODY he simply would have said SPIRIT BODY. But as anyone with the Spirit of GOD in them cane see that the (IT) sown in dishonor is the BODY not the Spirit and (IT) the BODY is raised (IN) HONOR and GLORY. the IT is the BODY. She or anyone has Yet to produce any scripture that say we become SPIRIT BODY BEINGS , why because a SPIRIT HAS NO BODY> Just that simple, don't get caught in this rubbish they teach it is a MYSTERY RELIGION.peace and love to all who love the truth……………….gene
Where? When I quote a Scripture, it is copied and pasted from the Internet of the Blue Letter Bible…..The scripture you quoted is from there….and it says Spiritual bodies and not what YOU say….Irene
Irene………..If what you say you quote scriptural as it is written true, then How do you get a SPIRIT BODY out of a Spiritual Body. I suppose if i said the man was GODLY that would mean to you he is a GOD MAN right , So Jesus who you say is the “WORD” is GOD because it say the WORD (IS) GOD. So it's back to your trinitarian roots right?gene
genei have to say ,you really do not have much scriptures in you agenda.
but that also as not much scriptures,it really does not matter wich way we look at it you really do not have any scriptures.
Pierre
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