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Hi Mikeboll.
Are you saying, that a credible source of common scriptural understanding (A Bible Dictionary) that states that a Spirit (Messenging Angel or other Heavenly Being) is 'Bodiless' – is insufficient 'proof' for you? Please agree that this should be 'proof enough', but however you are not convinced in your own mind.
Forcing words and phrases to mean what you want them to mean gets nowhere. It is like telling an untruth. Soon it will catch up with you, and you will need to invent another untruth to cover the first – and the next – and the next. No one will ever agree with a made up term – no one should ever agree with a made up word or phrase – without the understanding of its real meaning. Doing so means 'Giving life of its Own' to the new word or phrase.
The Definition of Spirit in every credible Scriptural dictionary is 'Incorporeal'. And 'Incorporeal' means 'Bodiless'. Also, 'as opposed to Body'. The word 'Body' is equally defined in every Scriptural dictionary as indicating physical and material matter. Also, 'as opposed to Spirit'.
Now, this 'every' does not mean that the wording is exactly as I wrote it, else I would have to write out every dictionaries definition of its definition of Spirit and Body. I hope there is enough semblance of Christian charitable spirit (small 's') for us to agree this. Or else, what does Strong's Concordance say on the matter. Are you looking for an exact wording as stated by you ('An Angel is a Bodiless Spirit') – no, the exact wording is not there. But we do have Jesus Christ himself stating 'A Spirit does not have Flesh and Bone'. And, Mikeboll, there is no exact wording that states 'A Spirit had a Body'. Therefore, seeing that the thread title is 'Do Spirits have Bodies' and 'Body' (Does a Spirit have a Body) is agreed to mean 'made of Physical and material matter – and – is as Opposed to 'Spirit', it can logically be assumed that a Spirit, as opposed to a Body, does not have a body.
Your line of reasoning is similar to someone asking 'Do Springtails have wings?' Your argument is equivalent to: No, but they do leap large distances, and while they are in the air, they are 'flying' – and if it is flying, then it must have Wings.
On the issue of 'description of Angels'. Mikeboll, what descriptions are given of Angels? If you are referring to the symbolic representations given to those who made the Ark of the Covenant, then you must equally assume that all the other symbolic representations given in Scriptures, are equally true representations of the Heavenly equivalence. So that makes Jesus a real wounded Lamb at one time, and a Man with a sharp double edged Sword for a tongue at another, a Giant being that can stand over a river at yet another time, and then is riding a horse in Heaven. Mikeboll, are you serious? And, now you get extremely dangerous – God Almighty would have to be… (I can't write it but 'what it says in Scriptures'). Moreover, are the personal sightings of Angels given in Scriptures, consistent with the symbolic representations: Do Angels seen by man have six wings and faces of Animals, Bird and Fish and Man that turn every which way?
toby
read what is follow;
Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old;
Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity,
from the beginning, before the world began.
Pr 8:24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth,
when there were no springs abounding with water;
Pr 8:25 before the mountains were settled in place,
before the hills, I was given birth,
Pr 8:26 before he made the earth or its fields
or any of the dust of the world.
Pr 8:27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
Pr 8:28 when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
Pr 8:29 when he gave the sea its boundary
so the waters would not overstep his command,
and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
Pr 8:30 Then I was the craftsman at his side.
I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his presence,
Pr 8:31 rejoicing in his whole world
and delighting in mankindthe it is spoken of his the son of God ,the first of creation ;pay attention to verse 30 the last part it says;I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his(GOD) presence,when someone is in the presence of someone is this not saying WE ARE APPART LIKE TWO BEINGS MADE EITHER OF A STRUCTURE THAT MEANS BODY ??AND WHY WOULD HEAVEN BE DIFFERENT THAN THE EARTH ? i MEAN NOT IN STRUCTURE BUT IN ORGANIZATION ,DOES NOT GOD AS CHEIF ANGELS,ARCHANELS ,MESSENGERS, SHERUB,
AND THERE ARE SOME 100.000.000. OF THEM THERE IS MUCH WORK IN THE GALAXIES THIS ALL SHOWS THAT THEY ALL HAVE BODIES OF A SORT
A THOUGHT
Pierre
Hi Mikeboll.
You are doing that thing of yours again! You ask a question and it is answered to you, yet you still persist in asking. Did I not answer you as to 'When did Jesus become a Spirit'. Are you only able to accept an answer that states what you want to hear. I asked questions in a quiz and only one person answered. I answered your question in full and expansive manner, yet you still ask again! Well, as often as you ask with relevance, as often I shall answer then, and seeing how you deal with another, I will use your exact word:
Jesus became a Spirit in Heaven on his ascension into Heaven.
Jesus became a Spirit…?
Mikeboll, ask yourself exactly what you mean by this 'Became' a Spirit?I see from your discussion with SeekingTruth, that you use 'He 'became' a Life-giving Spirit' – the emphasis is rightly placed on 'Life-Giving' – not on 'He became a … Spirit'. The point to the verse is to show that Jesus, as Spirit, will be the one who raises the dead and 'give life' (through the Holy Spirit) to those of the elect.
Mike, I think you are just clutching to anything that even sniffs in the wind of direction towards what you want to believe. But beware, what you sniff in the wind may not be from the direction you think it is coming from – it could be a mis-direction!
Here is the lowdown, and a few questions back to you which I would appreciate if you would answer:
- 1. Jesus was a man on earth with a flesh and bone body. Do you agree?
- 2. The Living being of Jesus consists a Body with his Spirit in it. Do you agree?
- 3. You say that a Spirit has a Body. Do you agree?
- 4. You say that on his ascension up into the cloud, Jesus' Body transformed into a Spiritual Body. Do you agree?
- 5. This 'transformation', you say, is therefore when Jesus 'became a Spirit'. Do you agree?
- 6. So, if I'm still following you, the Spirit of Jesus is now housed in a 'Spiritual Body'. Is this correct?
- 7. So, the Spirit of Jesus 'In the Spiritual Body'…(sorry – long pause) – does that Spirit have a body?
- 8. If the Spirit of Jesus is now in a Spiritual Body, what body was it in before it was in the Spiritual Body? And when it was delivered up to God at his death?
And one last puzzling question (first a statement):
There is no Scripture that states that a 'transformation' took place as Jesus was taken up into the cloud, but yet you use this 'non-event' as the pivotal point that relates to the Scriptural verse, 'It is sown in Corruption, it is 'raised' in 'incorruption'. Even the Angel that appeared to the Disciples at the event poured scorn on their reaction, stating, 'Men of Galilee, why do you stand there looking up into the sky…this Jesus will return in like manner to that which you saw him leave!' (not the question: What does this say to you? Was Jesus' disappearance into the cloud a pivotal moment immortalised by the Apostles as the 'raising' moment?)So, the question (two part question):
- 9. What was the event that took place surrounding the verses that state: 'IT was sown in Corruption, IT was 'raised in incorruption'.
So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption, it shall rise in incorruption. It is sown in dishonour, it shall rise in glory. It is sown in weakness, it shall rise in power. It is sown a natural body, it shall rise a spiritual body.
- 10. Since the Spirit of a being cannot die, what is the 'IT' in those verses that is said to become everlasting (Emphasis on what is the 'IT')
Thank you Mikeboll.
Toby……….I have been saying that all along that the “IT” was the BODY that is sown in Corruption, and “IT” (the body) is what will be raised in Incorruption. The Spirit does not die so the Spirit can not be corrupted, and raised. Jesus never lost his resurrected body he still has “IT”,
peace and love to you and yours………………………………………..gene
Quote (toby @ Jan. 26 2012,01:59) Did I not answer you as to 'When did Jesus become a Spirit'.
Let me rephrase it for you:Toby, when do you think Jesus stopped being a human being and became a spirit being?
(And actually, your original answer was “everyone is a spirit being”, or something to that effect. Then you corrected yourself, which opened the question again. So, as far as I can tell, you STILL haven't actually answered the question I'm asking.)
Okay Toby,
In the spirit of trying to understand each other, I'm going to do what you should have been doing since we started conversing with each other. Notice how my answers will be short and to the point, without any added world views or any added ad hominems about people “clutching” at things.
Quote (toby @ Jan. 26 2012,01:59) Here is the lowdown, and a few questions back to you which I would appreciate if you would answer: - 1. Jesus was a man on earth with a flesh and bone body. Do you agree?
- 2. The Living being of Jesus consists a Body with his Spirit in it. Do you agree?
- 3. You say that a Spirit has a Body. Do you agree?
- 4. You say that on his ascension up into the cloud, Jesus' Body transformed into a Spiritual Body. Do you agree?
- 5. This 'transformation', you say, is therefore when Jesus 'became a Spirit'. Do you agree?
- 6. So, if I'm still following you, the Spirit of Jesus is now housed in a 'Spiritual Body'. Is this correct?
- 7. So, the Spirit of Jesus 'In the Spiritual Body'…(sorry – long pause) – does that Spirit have a body?
- 8. If the Spirit of Jesus is now in a Spiritual Body, what body was it in before it was in the Spiritual Body? And when it was delivered up to God at his death?
- 9. What was the event that took place surrounding the verses that state: 'IT was sown in Corruption, IT was 'raised in incorruption'
- 10. Since the Spirit of a being cannot die, what is the 'IT' in those verses that is said to become everlasting (Emphasis on what is the 'IT')
1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Spirit BEINGS have bodies, yes.
4. Yes.
5. Yes, this is when Jesus stopped being a human being, and went back to being a spirit being.
6. Yes.
7. No. Spirit BEINGS have bodies. Things like “spirit of kindness” or “team spirit”, or “the spirit of understanding” that I mentioned in my first line to you above, do not have bodies. This thread concerns spirit BEINGS, such as God, angels, demons, and Jesus.
8. It was originally in a spiritual body, then, when Jesus was made flesh, it was in a human body. Now it is in a spiritual body again.
9. Not “it WAS”, but “it IS raised incoruptable”. Paul speaks about how the bodies of the elect WILL BE raised.
10. “IT” refers to “body”.
Toby, I have other questions from the previous pages, which I will ask you again, one at a time. Right now, you have but ONE LITTLE QUESTION waiting for you (from my previous post today). Please answer it as I have answered yours above – short and to the point.
(And remember that this thread does not concern the spirit (life force) through which God animates all living things. It does not concern the spirit that goes back to God when we die. That spirit is not a “BEING”, and is not what the focus of this thread is about. The focus, once again, is whether or not spirit BEINGS, such as God, angels, and Jesus have bodies in heaven.)
MIke……………YOU Changed question # 3 to, do Spirit “BEINGS” have bodies. I thought you were going to answer Toby truthfully, Why Change what He Wrote, Question was DO SPIRITS HAVE BODIES. Beings had nothing to do with His question.
IT was Sown a “PERISHABLE” BODY, that (IT) was NOT a SPIRIT becasue a Spirit is not SOWN as a “PERISHABLE” BODY In fact a Spirit is not sown as a PERISHABLE anything. ” for thou will not suffer thy holy one to see corruption, in the GRAVE, that corruption was talking about the BODY of Jesus, He was raised a Flesh and BONE Person from the GRAVE, Just as he and the disciples said He was.
gene
Gene,
For the thousandth time, this thread has ALWAYS been about spirits such as angels and God.
This thread has NEVER been about whether or not “team spirit” has a body.
When are you going to tell me the DEFINITION of the word “spirit” in Luke 24:37? I don't need a paragraph of the usual rhetoric, just a simple two word answer.
Come on Gene, you KNOW what it means. You KNOW what the disciples thought they were seeing. Just say those two little words so I can show you even more things about spirits.
MIke………..That is all you have to do is show us ONE PERSON IN SCRIPTURE THAT HAS EVER SEEN A SPIRIT. It is JUST THAT SIMPLE, Don't give us the garbage of what some “THOUGHT” they saw and use it as a Proof Text that there (ARE) such thing as “SPIRIT BODIES” You have NO PROOF there ARE not from any Scripture. If I say I “THOUGHT” I saw a flying Saucer does that mean there are flying Saucers, can I say I know for a fact I saw one, when no one else can prove they say one either even though they “THOUGHT” they did? come on Mike this Luke thing is absolute no proof of anything and what Jesus said after that should even more convience you MIKE>
peace and love………………………………………….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2012,17:13) MIke………..That is all you have to do is show us ONE PERSON IN SCRIPTURE THAT HAS EVER SEEN A SPIRIT.
I can show you a lot of them, Gene. But first, you have to gain the knowledge that angels ARE spirits, just like Paul said.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2012,17:13) come on Mike this Luke thing is absolute no proof of anything
It's solid proof that “spirit” sometimes means “spirit BEING” in the scriptures, Gene. And once you come to grips with this FACT that everyone on this site seems to know except for you, then I can show you some other things you didn't know. Like when people saw an angel, they were seeing a SPIRIT.Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,15:21) toby read what is follow;
Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old;
Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity,
from the beginning, before the world began.
Pr 8:24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth,
when there were no springs abounding with water;
Pr 8:25 before the mountains were settled in place,
before the hills, I was given birth,
Pr 8:26 before he made the earth or its fields
or any of the dust of the world.
Pr 8:27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
Pr 8:28 when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
Pr 8:29 when he gave the sea its boundary
so the waters would not overstep his command,
and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
Pr 8:30 Then I was the craftsman at his side.
I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his presence,
Pr 8:31 rejoicing in his whole world
and delighting in mankindthe it is spoken of his the son of God ,the first of creation ;pay attention to verse 30 the last part it says;I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his(GOD) presence,when someone is in the presence of someone is this not saying WE ARE APPART LIKE TWO BEINGS MADE EITHER OF A STRUCTURE THAT MEANS BODY ??AND WHY WOULD HEAVEN BE DIFFERENT THAN THE EARTH ? i MEAN NOT IN STRUCTURE BUT IN ORGANIZATION ,DOES NOT GOD AS CHEIF ANGELS,ARCHANELS ,MESSENGERS, SHERUB,
AND THERE ARE SOME 100.000.000. OF THEM THERE IS MUCH WORK IN THE GALAXIES THIS ALL SHOWS THAT THEY ALL HAVE BODIES OF A SORT
A THOUGHT
Hi Terrarica.I see what you say and have this to say:
If the realm of the Spirit, were the same as the realm of the flesh, (Physical material): Then what was the point of God creating it?
Your point about the hierarchy of Angels is certainly true. But this aspect has nothing to do with Body but to do with Order and Rank.
You do not need a 'Body' to describe Order and Rank.The error that others make is to say that 'There 'must be' a boundary between one Order or Rank from another Order or Rank …and that boundary is called a 'Body'.
While it is true that there must be a boundary as such, this is not the same meaning as the Body of a being.
The Boundary of the Body (note the wording) is called a 'Skin'. It is the 'Skin' that boundaries (Borders) the 'Body'.Without forcing the meaning of the word 'Body', the common meaning in every instance in relation to a Being, is Physical and Material Matter. What many people do, is they take 'mental imagery' from Pagan teachings, to create 'a mental imagery' of the real (Incorporeal, Immaterial, Invisible) world of the Spirit Realm. Indeed, the very word 'Spirit' is defined (Common usage) as (No matter how it is said) Bodiless.
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You cannot use the word “BODY” to ascribe meaning to another word that is patently described as being “NOT A BODY”.
——————————————————Terrarica, my view.
MIke….When people see you they are a Spirit (INTELLECT) at work and that is what is (IN) YOU Too. Just like the angels no difference, they have real Bodies not SPIRIT BODIES but bodies with Spirit (IN) them. Just like us, MIKE. There is nothing there Bodies have done that our Bodies cannot do , Case in point The furnace that was seven time hotter, Humans were thrown into and walked around in it and came walking out with out a singed hair on them. Human walked on water human went through wall, human disappeared, and thy all still had bodies of flesh and some of blood also, God said Adam and even could have lived for ever in there present bodies he gave them, had they ate of the tree of Life. Jodi has Produce many scriptures that showed angels were men , Just go back and reread her posts. But never any acknowledgment for any of your people why is that Mike? There is NO SPIRIT BODY in any Scripture or you would have not failed to produce it by now Mike. So let be honest here about the all right. There is NOT ONE SCRIPTURE that say SPIRITS (ARE) BODIES. Can we at least agree on that MIKE?
peace and Love………………………………………gene
Quote (toby @ Jan. 27 2012,18:00) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2012,15:21) toby read what is follow;
Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old;
Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity,
from the beginning, before the world began.
Pr 8:24 When there were no oceans, I was given birth,
when there were no springs abounding with water;
Pr 8:25 before the mountains were settled in place,
before the hills, I was given birth,
Pr 8:26 before he made the earth or its fields
or any of the dust of the world.
Pr 8:27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
Pr 8:28 when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
Pr 8:29 when he gave the sea its boundary
so the waters would not overstep his command,
and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
Pr 8:30 Then I was the craftsman at his side.
I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his presence,
Pr 8:31 rejoicing in his whole world
and delighting in mankindthe it is spoken of his the son of God ,the first of creation ;pay attention to verse 30 the last part it says;I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his(GOD) presence,when someone is in the presence of someone is this not saying WE ARE APPART LIKE TWO BEINGS MADE EITHER OF A STRUCTURE THAT MEANS BODY ??AND WHY WOULD HEAVEN BE DIFFERENT THAN THE EARTH ? i MEAN NOT IN STRUCTURE BUT IN ORGANIZATION ,DOES NOT GOD AS CHEIF ANGELS,ARCHANELS ,MESSENGERS, SHERUB,
AND THERE ARE SOME 100.000.000. OF THEM THERE IS MUCH WORK IN THE GALAXIES THIS ALL SHOWS THAT THEY ALL HAVE BODIES OF A SORT
A THOUGHT
Hi Terrarica.I see what you say and have this to say:
If the realm of the Spirit, were the same as the realm of the flesh, (Physical material): Then what was the point of God creating it?
Your point about the hierarchy of Angels is certainly true. But this aspect has nothing to do with Body but to do with Order and Rank.
You do not need a 'Body' to describe Order and Rank.The error that others make is to say that 'There 'must be' a boundary between one Order or Rank from another Order or Rank …and that boundary is called a 'Body'.
While it is true that there must be a boundary as such, this is not the same meaning as the Body of a being.
The Boundary of the Body (note the wording) is called a 'Skin'. It is the 'Skin' that boundaries (Borders) the 'Body'.Without forcing the meaning of the word 'Body', the common meaning in every instance in relation to a Being, is Physical and Material Matter. What many people do, is they take 'mental imagery' from Pagan teachings, to create 'a mental imagery' of the real (Incorporeal, Immaterial, Invisible) world of the Spirit Realm. Indeed, the very word 'Spirit' is defined (Common usage) as (No matter how it is said) Bodiless.
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You cannot use the word “BODY” to ascribe meaning to another word that is patently described as being “NOT A BODY”.
——————————————————Terrarica, my view.
tobyyes ,well said ,but answer this ;
if a angel a spirit being exist ,then what are they ?with what are they made of ?
we know they have a SOUL so as MEN
we know they can talk so can MEN
we know they can think so can MEN
we know they can move and travel so can MEN
we know they can see so can MEN
we know they have power so as MEN (less)
they can fly /we cannot
they can be invisible we cannot
they can do many other things as well.
they are separated entities so are we
scriptures says men is made from the dustscriptures show they are made out of pure stones
yes there are one hundred million of them ,
but they never less all individuals who can perform morst and more of what we can do ,
so your argument on the wording skin or body is tricky,
but if we say they have a outer skin then we also say they have no body ,right ?? I guess yes.
but if we say they have a body “like Paul says “”a spiritual body””
this would be more real ;see they have many features we have and if we say that around all that there is a skin ,would not all what they are be a BODY ?? and also be the holder of their soul just like US ? I believe so
Pierre
Quote (toby @ Jan. 27 2012,11:00) You cannot use the word “BODY” to ascribe meaning to another word that is patently described as being “NOT A BODY”.
A body is a container.
Our body is a container that contains what we are.
We are not our body.But are we given a spiritual body. Is spirit invisible. Is a body visible. Jesus is the image of the invisible God and fullness of the Deity in bodily form.
Also, our lowly bodies will be transformed into a glorious body like his.
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 26 2012,18:09) Can we at least agree on that MIKE?
Gene,Until we both agree on the DEFINITION of “spirit” in Luke 24:37, anything else you say is pointless. Because I can't show you what I have to show you until you are able to see what only you can't see.
Toby.
Daniel 10:13. But the prince of the kingdom of percia(phisical evil angel) withstood me 0ne and twenty days: but lo, michael(phisical holy angel) one of the chief princes,came to help me; and I remain there with the prince of percia.
A phisical spirit body can be withstood(captured).
Acts1:10. And when they looked steadfastly toward heaven as he went up(Jesus); BEHOLD TWO MENS TOOD BY THEM IN WHITE APPAREL. (Angels materialising into a human body)
They are not shapeless creatures.VERSE11. which also said; ye men of galilee,why stand ye gazing up to heaven? This same Jesus,which is taken up from you,into heaven,shall so come in like manner,as ye have seen him go into heaven.
There are four chief angels:1.Michael. 2.Raphael. 3.Gabriel.4. phanuel.They are individual angels with character,not just spirits,like the wind,with no form or shape.
The four beasts around the throne of God,each have four faces,and four wings.
The four living creatures Ezekiel saw,had a head with four faces,arms,wings,and feet(ez.1:4—28.)
They are not shapeless spirits.Lucifer was a beautiful cherub,with character,with ideas,and dreams, and plans,and strategies,and talents,wisdom.
HE is not just a floating spirit force with no body or shape.wakeup.
Hi T8.
This thread is: Do Spirit's have Bodies? Does God have a Body?
My stance is simple:
A Spirit in the Heavenly realm does not have a body, because the infinite realm of the Spirit cannot sustain physical and material matter (a body). In addition, whoever created the name Spirit for a Heaven dwelling Being, defined it as Incorporeal, Immaterial, Invisible “Bodiless”, (As opposed to 'Body'), the 'Mind', without material form or substance, Supernatural, (and more). Now, misunderstanding of the very clear definition, by many, has led them to claim that an Invisible, Immaterial and especially, Incorporeal, Being, MUST have a body to separate it from other Bodiless (Spirit) Beings.
I agree with Gene:
Jesus has not Lost his Immortal Body.
Some cannot join up the aspects of Scriptures that states 100% factually, that the same body that Jesus died in, was the same body that was raised up again in glory – despite the 'exact wording' of such being presented.That is not to say that I agree with everything Gene says. In my view, Mikeboll has some aspects wrong and Gene has some right, Mikeboll also has some aspects right and Gene has some wrong.
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So to Gene:
What I have done is ignore the parts where you are adamant in your error, due to your conviction in belief over the nature of a Spirit. Your writings seem to indicate that you can entertain the notion of a Demon Spirit in the physical universe, which are indeed 'In a Body' – I agree wholeheartedly. This is shown Absolutely by the fact that no one has ever reported to have seen a Demon Spirit, and those that are mentioned in Scriptures have all been 'In the Body' of another living Being – meaning they don't have the ability to sustain a body of their own, even in the physical world where 'Holy Angels' have been seen by, and interacted with, mankind.
Finally, if a Spirit Being has a 'Body' then why did Jesus' 'Immortal Body' have to be “Transformed” at his Ascension?
All living Beings in the Earthly physical and material world have a Spirit in them. Do these Spirits have a body? No! They are still 'Spirit'.
Do these Spirits occupy a body? Yes, the body of the Being that constrains them.
Why are the Spirits in the earthly physical world constrained by the 'Body' of the Being?
To limit their activities so they comply with the laws governing the earthly physical world, and especially the limitation of the encasing Flesh body.It can therefore be stated with absolute certainty, that the new Glorious Body that will encase the Spirit of those On Earth in the new life, will not be limited by the physical laws of the universe – nor that of any flesh – and wonderful things as yet unknown to mankind will be accomplished (For instance, distance will not be a constraint, pain and hurt, heat, light, warmth, cold, food, drink (more) will not be issues)
According to some here, the Glorious Body will encase the Spirit of man at the resurrection – it would then have to be assumed that all of the resurrected will have their abode in Heaven as Angels. What was the point of God creating flesh in the first place? And what about Scriptures that state that the Earth will become a Paradise and the Elect will 'Rule on the Earth' – who are they 'Ruling' over on the Earth if everyone is in Heaven?”
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