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Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,00:58) Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2013,19:51) Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,11:10) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2013,09:26)
Abe….. As far as the son of GOD goes, it's, much like a man , when his seed is discharged into a women and unites with her, he has extended himself to another life form, so it seems with the Spirit of God, IMO, If his seed (holy spirit abides in you, you are a son of God ) according to John. God the father has extended himself to us, by his Spirit, and being God is a spirt, we then are sharing our same body, just as Jesus was also. God's spirit begins to express itself in us and a changes in our nature begins to take place as we grow in the full measure of Christ. IMOHope that helped brother.
Peace and love to you and yours………………………..gene
Hi Gene,That was a VERY GOOD explanation! And here are just a few of many corroborating Bible verses (for the benefit of the readers):
(Isaiah 53:2, 53:10) “[Jesus] shall grow up before [YHVH] as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground:”
“[YHVH] shalt make [Jesus'] soul an offering for sin, [Jesus] shall see [God's seed] (“God's Seed” is “The Word”) (see Luke 8:11)
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD'S SEED!
(And he that soweth God's Seed is “the Son of Man”)
(see Matthew 13:37)(Jesus said unto them) “WHAT IS THE KINGDOM OF GOD LIKE? and whereunto shall I resemble it?
(God's Kingdom) is like a grain of mustard SEED, which a man took, and cast into his garden; and it grew,
(see Acts 12:24) and waxed *a great tree; and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it.” (Luke 13:18-19)“So mightily grew “The Word”(HOLYSPIRIT) of God and prevailed.” (Acts 19:20)
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
*A GREAT TREE is the “Tree of Life” (see Rev.22:1-3)
EdJ.That would contradict this scripture.
***Without him was not anything made that was made***.
wakeup.
Without “Him” – God's HolySpirit was not anything made that was made.
Hi Ed,Gal.3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ.
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THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD'S SEED!Are you saying Christ is the Holy Spirit? Please explain.
Peace brother…….
Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,22:45) “Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us,
and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in
subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?” (Heb 12:9)1. “Father of Spirits”
2. The spirits that the Father of Spirits is Father of.
Hi 2Besee,And which one of these two categories does the “spirit of Christ” belong?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (abe @ June 25 2013,09:01) Hi Ed, Gal.3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ.
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THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD'S SEED!(1)Are you saying Christ is the Holy Spirit? (2)Please explain.
Peace brother…….
Hi Abe,1) No
2) Explain what? Why the “spirit of Christ” is not the HolySpirit?
For the same reason your spirit is not the HolySpirit.
I have a thread dedicated to explain. (Link)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 25 2013,10:44) Quote (2besee @ June 25 2013,08:36) Ed, I did not say that Jesus was the Holy Spirit 'as such'. I said that I believe that the Holy Spirit is also called the Spirit of Christ, and is also called the Spirit of the Son…which was IN Jesus of Nazareth.
I was curious about the vision that Paul had of Jesus speaking to him – that is all. But I see that that was a vison, which is different.I know what I believe right up to the ascension of Jesus to heaven. But from then on is where I would like to study more.
Hi 2Besee,“GOD” is a spirit (ref. John 4:24); are you suggesting that
the spirit Christ is the Father of GOD, who “IS” a spirit?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Sorry Ed, My “what” was in reply to this post.Quote (Ed J @ June 25 2013,11:08) Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,22:45) “Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us,
and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in
subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?” (Heb 12:9)1. “Father of Spirits”
2. The spirits that the Father of Spirits is Father of.
Hi 2Besee,And which one of these two categories does the “spirit of Christ” belong?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Category 1.Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,14:16) Quote (abe @ June 25 2013,09:01) Hi Ed, Gal.3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ.
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THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD'S SEED!(1)Are you saying Christ is the Holy Spirit? (2)Please explain.
Peace brother…….
Hi Abe,1) No
2) Explain what? Why the “spirit of Christ” is not the HolySpirit?
For the same reason your spirit is not the HolySpirit.
I have a thread dedicated to explain. (Link)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed,Quote)
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD'S SEED!What is the difference between Gods seed and the seed of Abraham?
Peace brother.
Abe…… The Holy Spirit is the seed of God IMO, this Spirit was “IN” the man Jesus the seed of Abraham. The wording, the spirit of Christ, or CHRISTOS is the (anointing spirit ) ,it can be confusing, because some believe that is referencing, Jesus the man, when in fact i believe it is talking about the Holy Spirit Jesus had in him. Paul sometimes uses the word “Christ” in referencing the person Jesus, and in other places, the Holy Spirit, Jesus had in him, which is the Holy Spirit of (or from) God. So it can be somewhat confusing to some . IMO
Peace and love to you and yours………………….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 24 2013,18:08) Abe…… The Holy Spirit is the seed of God IMO, this Spirit was “IN” the man Jesus the seed of Abraham. The wording, the spirit of Christ, or CHRISTOS is the (anointing spirit ) ,it can be confusing, because some believe that is referencing, Jesus the man, when in fact i believe it is talking about the Holy Spirit Jesus had in him. Paul sometimes uses the word “Christ” in referencing the person Jesus, and in other places, the Holy Spirit, Jesus had in him, which is the Holy Spirit of (or from) God. So it can be somewhat confusing to some . IMO Peace and love to you and yours………………….gene
Hi Gene,Wouldn’t you say Christ is in all? Jesus was born 2000 years ago.
Do you have a Scripture for Gods seed?
Peace brother…
Abe………Yes i would say the “CHRISTOS” is in all who have it. Question is what is the Christos is it a the Man Jesus or the anointing Spirit that was in Him? Jesus like us had his own spirit he was born with, but that spirit is not the Christos or anointing Spirit of God, Which he later recieved, when he was baptized in the Jordan river by John the baptist. That spirit made him the Son of GOD in a spritual sense.
Therefore it says…..> “IF” the spirit of him that raised Christ (Jesus) from the dead dwell in you, It or He, shall “also” bring to life your “MORTAL BODY”. That Spirit was not Jesus but the Cristos or anointing Spirit of GOD that was “IN” Jesus. IMO
Yes i have a scripture for Gods seed…..> 1 John 3:9….> Whosoever is “born” of God does not commit sin for (because) his seed (Gods seed) remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, becasue he is “born” of God.
verse 10….> in this the childern of God are manifest, and the childern of the devil: whosoever does not rightiousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother
peace and love to you and yours………gene
Hi All,
I have a translation of The Book of Genesis called,
The Mechanical Translation of The Book of Genesis, The Hebrew text literally translated word for word, by Jeff A. Benner from Ancient Hebrew Research Center.
Genesis 1:4 and “Elohiym [Powers]” said, we will make a human in our image like our likeness and he will rule in the swimmers of the seas and in the flyers of the sky and in the beast and in all of the land and in all of the treaders treading upon the land, 5 and “Elohiym [Powers]” fattened the human in his image, in the image of “Elohiym [Powers]” he fattened him, male and female he fattened them,
2:7 and “YHWH [He exists]” of “Elohiym [Powers]” molded the human powerder from the ground and he exhaled in his nostrils a breath of life and the human existed for a being of life.
Has anyone looked or heard of this translation of Genesis before?
Quote (abe @ June 25 2013,09:34) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 24 2013,18:08) Abe…… The Holy Spirit is the seed of God IMO, this Spirit was “IN” the man Jesus the seed of Abraham. The wording, the spirit of Christ, or CHRISTOS is the (anointing spirit ) ,it can be confusing, because some believe that is referencing, Jesus the man, when in fact i believe it is talking about the Holy Spirit Jesus had in him. Paul sometimes uses the word “Christ” in referencing the person Jesus, and in other places, the Holy Spirit, Jesus had in him, which is the Holy Spirit of (or from) God. So it can be somewhat confusing to some . IMO Peace and love to you and yours………………….gene
Hi Gene,Wouldn’t you say Christ is in all? Jesus was born 2000 years ago.
Do you have a Scripture for Gods seed?
Peace brother…
Abe,I assume understand the meaning of “seed”. a search of Abba, Father will lead you to two passages.
Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 25 2013,11:12) Hi All, I have a translation of The Book of Genesis called,
The Mechanical Translation of The Book of Genesis, The Hebrew text literally translated word for word, by Jeff A. Benner from Ancient Hebrew Research Center.
Genesis 1:4 and “Elohiym [Powers]” said, we will make a human in our image like our likeness and he will rule in the swimmers of the seas and in the flyers of the sky and in the beast and in all of the land and in all of the treaders treading upon the land, 5 and “Elohiym [Powers]” fattened the human in his image, in the image of “Elohiym [Powers]” he fattened him, male and female he fattened them,
2:7 and “YHWH [He exists]” of “Elohiym [Powers]” molded the human powerder from the ground and he exhaled in his nostrils a breath of life and the human existed for a being of life.
Has anyone looked or heard of this translation of Genesis before?
Hi Jody,I have never heard of the Book, can you direct me to copy of it?
Genesis 1:4 and “Elohiym [Powers]” said, *we* will make a human in our image like our likeness and he will rule in the swimmers of the seas and in the flyers of the sky and in the beast and in all of the land and in all of the treaders treading upon the land,
*he* will rule in
Is the gender masc. or could it be neuter or fem.?
2:7 and “YHWH [He exists] ” of “ Elohiym [Powers]”
Is.43:6 “I will say to the north, 'Give [them] up!' And to the south, 'Do not hold [them] back.' Bring My sons from afar And My daughters from the ends of the earth,
7Everyone who is called by My name, And whom I have created for My glory, Whom I have formed, even whom I have made.”
Gen.7:22 of all that was on the dry land, all in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, died.
breath of the spirit of life
Does your book justify these words?
Thank you for the information.
Peace sister…….
Quote (abe @ June 25 2013,10:32) Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,14:16) Quote (abe @ June 25 2013,09:01) Hi Ed, Gal.3:16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ.
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THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD'S SEED!(1)Are you saying Christ is the Holy Spirit? (2)Please explain.
Peace brother…….
Hi Abe,1) No
2) Explain what? Why the “spirit of Christ” is not the HolySpirit?
For the same reason your spirit is not the HolySpirit.
I have a thread dedicated to explain. (Link)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed,Quote)
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GOD'S SEED!What is the difference between Gods seed and the seed of Abraham?
Peace brother.
Hi Abel,God's seed is Spiritual.
The seed of Abraham is Physical.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEDJ……..I agree with that, Gods seed is spiritual and his seed is in the man who was the physical seed of Abraham, Jesus.
Peace and love to you and yours………………………gener
Abe……..I had that book of the “Hebrew Mechanical translation of Genesis”, it is written by Jeff Benner, I sent it to brother Adam years ago. It is very good at showing the difference of words used by the Hebrew language and the English wording , like Jodi brought out , the word we use for create the Hebrews “fattening” like filling or enlarging. He also has the original pictorial Language the Hebrews used to mean GOD, it was a ox head with a staff alongside it, the ox was a symbol for power and the staff was what they trusted and leaned on for there support. You can go to his web site and get all of this there.
Peace and love to you and yours……………………gene
Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,14:26) Hi Abel, God's seed is Spiritual.
The seed of Abraham is Physical.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Oops, I meant “Abe”.Hi Ed J
I moved your post from the other thread it was off topic!!Quote Hi 2Besee, Jesus had the spirit of Christ since his birth, since that is his own spirit as we have our own spirit, and Jesus was baptized with the “HolySpirit” immediately after receiving John's baptism. (Matt. 3:16)
“And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same(YHVH) said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same(Jusus) is he which baptizeth with the HolySpirit. And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.” (John 1:32-34)
It was at that point that John the baptist recognized that Jesus was the Messiah -after Jesus was baptized with the HolySpirit.
” You are not in the flesh but in the Spirit — if it is so, that THE SPIRIT OF GOD dwells in you. But if any man doesn't have the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is not his.”
There if only one spirit.
1 Corinthians 12
Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and [that] no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another [divers] kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also [is] Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
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