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  • #357168
    kerwin
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    T,

    Perhaps you should search Scripture and learn that Christ does not live in the old man. You can only be complete in Christ when you no longer live the life of the old man. In order to do that you must believe all that Jesus taught.

    #357172
    terraricca
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    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 09 2013,05:11)
    T,

    Perhaps you should search Scripture and learn that Christ does not live in the old man.  You can only be complete in Christ when you no longer live the life of the old man.  In order to do that you must believe all that Jesus taught.


    k

    EPH 2:15 by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace,

    1PE 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
    1PE 1:23 for you have been born again not of seed which is perishable but imperishable, that is, through the living and enduring word of God.

    GAL 5:25 If we live by the Spirit(truth), let us also walk by the Spirit.(truth)

    1PE 1:7 so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
    we can not receive at the end ,what we have not cultivated while we live ,because it would show that we have rejected the faith , so OUR PERFECTION IS AN ON GOING CONSTRUCTION

    so scriptures seems not to agree with your views right ???

    #357188
    kerwin
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    T,

    Scripture speaks of those that are mature in Christ.

    Philippians 3:15
    New International Version (NIV)

    15 All of us, then, who are mature should take such a view of things. And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you.

    #357190
    kerwin
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    T,

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    EPH 2:15 by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace,

    He abolished in his human flesh our bounds to our beastly nature. The bonds that rendered the Law powerless to enable us to overcome the evil desires of the world. In himself the two are made a new human.

    #357193
    terraricca
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    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 09 2013,06:23)
    T,

    Scripture speaks of those that are mature in Christ.

    Philippians 3:15
    New International Version (NIV)

    15 All of us, then, who are mature should take such a view of things. And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you.


    K

    you going away ,and drag this conversation in a different direction ,so you can go ,

    I stay here and wait ,until you come back ok,

    #357200
    kerwin
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    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 09 2013,06:31)
    T,

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    EPH 2:15 by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace,

    He abolished in his human flesh our bounds to our beastly nature. The bonds that rendered the Law powerless to enable us to overcome the evil desires of the world.  In himself the two are made a new human.


    T,

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    so OUR PERFECTION IS AN ON GOING CONSTRUCTION

    I was responding to these words as you should have determined by what I said. Did I misunderstand you?

    #357201
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 09 2013,08:58)

    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 09 2013,06:31)
    T,

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    EPH 2:15 by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace,

    He abolished in his human flesh our bounds to our beastly nature. The bonds that rendered the Law powerless to enable us to overcome the evil desires of the world.  In himself the two are made a new human.


    T,

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    so OUR PERFECTION IS AN ON GOING CONSTRUCTION

    I was responding to these words as you should have determined by what I said.  Did I misunderstand you?


    k

    I am tired from your games ;read the topic discussion ,time out

    #357208
    kerwin
    Participant

    T,

    It is no game we speak of but your life. Seek the truth with all your soul, spirit, and flesh.

    #357219
    terraricca
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    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 09 2013,12:46)
    T,

    It is no game we speak of but your life.   Seek the truth with all your soul, spirit, and flesh.


    K

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    It is no game we speak of but your life

    MY LIVE ????????????????

    DO YOU NOT SEE IN THE PROBLEM YOU ARE IN ?????

    ARE YOU THAT BLIND ??????

    YOU DO NOT EVEN BELIEVE WHAT SCRIPTURES ARE SAYING ,AND YOU TALK ABOUT “MY LIVE “”” LOOK IN YOUR LIVE ;YOU ARE WORKING AGAINST GOD WRITTEN WORDS ;INTERPRETING HIS OWN WORDS ;AND TELL OTHERS TO FOLLOW YOU ;SO DID THE DEVIL IN EDEN ,

    JESUS DID NOT DO WHEN HE WAS TEMPTED ;BUT YOU DO IT CONSTANTLY EVERY DAY ;

    YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO FIND THE TRUTH ;FOR THE VERY REASONS THAT YOU REJECT IT ;

    #357231
    kerwin
    Participant

    T,

    Haven't you heard the proverb that “there is a way that appears right to a human but leads to destruction in the end”. Be careful not to tread that way.

    #357233
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 10 2013,00:28)
    T,

    Haven't you heard the proverb that “there is a way that appears right to a human but leads to destruction in the end”. Be careful not to tread that way.


    K

    yes i know that very well , but it is applied on one single view ,

    i have four years experience with you ,and saw many quotes ,in many topics ,so you have spelled out your beans ,character,views,understanding, on the truth of God ,

    I just look and there it is ;

    of cause like i have told you before ;the same must apply to me as well,

    AND I CAN NOT PREVENT OTHERS TO DO WHAT I DO ,BUT I WELCOME IT ,THIS IS HOW WE SHARPING STEEL ,

    Jn 3:11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. WHY ??? KERWIN ?

    #357236
    abe
    Participant

    Hi,

    Ex.23:13
    And ye shall be on your guard as to everything that I have said unto you; and shall make no mention of the name of other gods it shall not be heard in thy mouth.

    Peace……….

    And ye shall be on your guard as to everything that I have said unto you; and shall make no mention of the name of other gods it shall not be heard in thy mouth.Ex.23:13

    Peace…………………………

    #357240
    abe
    Participant

    Hi,

    Gal.6:14    But may it never be that I would boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.

    Rom.6:3   Or do you not  Know   that all of us who have been Baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized *into His death?*
    4   Therefore we have been  'buried with Him’  through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.
    5  For if we have become united with [Him] in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be [in the likeness] of His resurrection,
    6  knowing this, that our old self was crucified with [Him], in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin;
    7  for he who has died is freed from sin.
    8  Now if we have   Died with Christ,   we believe that we shall also live with Him,
    9  knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, is never to die again;  Death no longer   is master over Him.  
    10  For the death that He died, He died to sin once  *for all*;  but the life that He lives, He lives to God.
    11Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

    2Cor.4:3   And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to   Those   who are perishing,
    4  in whose case the *god of this world* has   Blinded   the Minds of the *Unbelieving*   so that they might not See   the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    1Cor.8:4   Concerning therefore the eating of things sacrificed to idols, we know that no idol is anything in the world, and that there is no God but *One*.
    5  For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or on earth; as there are gods many, and lords many;  6  Yet to   us(Christians)   there is One God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; and One Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we through him.

    Peace……………

    And ye shall be on your guard as to everything that I have said unto you; and shall make no mention of the name of other gods it shall not be heard in thy mouth.     Ex.23:13……………….

    #357247
    terraricca
    Participant

    abe

    you should apply all those scriptures ,YOU SHOW THAT YOU BADLY NEEDED ,

    #357256
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2013,15:12)
    abe

    you should apply all those scriptures ,YOU SHOW THAT YOU BADLY NEEDED ,


    T,

    2Cor.4:3   And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to   Those   who are perishing,
    4  in whose case the *god of this world* has   Blinded   the Minds of the *Unbelieving*   so that they might not See   the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    in whose case the *god of this world* has   Blinded   the Minds of the *Unbelieving*

    Who are the unbelieving?

    6  Yet to   us(Christians)   there is One God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; and One Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we through him.

    Peace………….

    And ye shall be on your guard as to everything that I have said unto you; and shall make no mention of the name of other gods it shall not be heard in thy mouth.     Ex.23:13……………….

    #357261
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (abe @ Sep. 10 2013,06:07)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 09 2013,15:12)
    abe

    you should apply all those scriptures ,YOU SHOW THAT YOU BADLY NEEDED ,


    T,

    2Cor.4:3   And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to   Those   who are perishing,
    4  in whose case the *god of this world* has   Blinded   the Minds of the *Unbelieving*   so that they might not See   the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    in whose case the *god of this world* has   Blinded   the Minds of the *Unbelieving*

    Who are the unbelieving?

    6  Yet to   us(Christians)   there is One God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we unto him; and One Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and we through him.

    Peace………….

    And ye shall be on your guard as to everything that I have said unto you; and shall make no mention of the name of other gods it shall not be heard in thy mouth.     Ex.23:13……………….


    abe

    you should read the context of those scriptures ,and really ask yourself ;good questions; like why,how,and find those answers,

    in scriptures not at your next door grocery store clerk ,in this way you would be able to prove that your understanding is solidly base in scriptures not on your memorized of verses quote what it seems shows your lack of understanding in scriptures ,

    you are really on milk ;in the scriptures and in fear ,not knowing what to do ,

    and yet you have to grow to maturity ,in truth of Christ not of religion ,

    read constantly the scriptures and pray ,so that your eyes inside of your heart open's ,

    this is what ALL TRUE CHRISTIAN BELIEVER SHOULD DO ,

    #357329
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Abe …….well put brother.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………….gene

    #357332
    terraricca
    Participant

    abe

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    Who are the unbelieving?

    please tell me ;in your own words ,what the scriptures says ;

    then ;

    who are the BELIEVERS ;???  also in your own words but scriptures support ;

    let see if you really know anything ???

    #357339
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 10 2013,01:06)

    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 10 2013,00:28)
    T,

    Haven't you heard the proverb that “there is a way that appears right to a human but leads to destruction in the end”. Be careful not to tread that way.


    K

    yes i know that very well , but it is applied on one single view ,

    i have four years experience with you ,and saw many quotes ,in many topics ,so you have spelled out your beans ,character,views,understanding, on the truth of God ,

    I just look and there it is ;

    of cause like i have told you before ;the same must apply to me as well,

    AND I CAN NOT PREVENT OTHERS TO DO WHAT I DO ,BUT I WELCOME IT ,THIS IS HOW WE SHARPING STEEL ,

    Jn 3:11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. WHY ??? KERWIN ?


    T,

    My conscious is clear on what I write.  Is yours?

    I do make some careless errors and seek to overcome those that advance righteousness.

    People do not accept the truth because they love sin and so will not come into righteousness.  Hate your sin and love yourself as God loves you.

    #357343
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 10 2013,23:38)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 10 2013,01:06)

    Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 10 2013,00:28)
    T,

    Haven't you heard the proverb that “there is a way that appears right to a human but leads to destruction in the end”. Be careful not to tread that way.


    K

    yes i know that very well , but it is applied on one single view ,

    i have four years experience with you ,and saw many quotes ,in many topics ,so you have spelled out your beans ,character,views,understanding, on the truth of God ,

    I just look and there it is ;

    of cause like i have told you before ;the same must apply to me as well,

    AND I CAN NOT PREVENT OTHERS TO DO WHAT I DO ,BUT I WELCOME IT ,THIS IS HOW WE SHARPING STEEL ,

    Jn 3:11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. WHY ??? KERWIN ?


    T,

    My conscious is clear on what I write.  Is yours?

    I do make some careless errors and seek to overcome those that advance righteousness.

    People do not accept the truth because they love sin and so will not come into righteousness.  Hate your sin and love yourself as God loves you.


    k

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    My conscious is clear on what I write.  Is yours?

    take a deep breath of air ,kerwin ,and tell IS THE CONSCIENCE A RELIABLE SOURCE FOR TRUTH OF GOD ???

    I HAVE A CLEAR CONSCIENCE BECAUSE I DO NOTHING WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE THAT GOD AS GIVEN ME ,I NEVER LOOK FOR MY OWN INTEREST ONLY WHEN I AM HUNGRY AND NEED TO EAT ,  :)

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