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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,16:21) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,08:01) bod Relations with the tribes of Central Arabia famous Hariths who illustrated the fortunes of the dynasty. His wife Maria Dzat al Curtain, ” Mary of the ear-rings,” belonged to the Yemen tribe of Kinda; and the sister of Mary was married to the chief of the same tribe, Hojr Akil at Morar. It is not certain how this alliance was contracted; for we find Harith at war with the Bani Kinda, whose chief Amr al Macsur son of Hojr, he killed in battle. Harith at last perished in an encounter with Mundzir III., of Hira. Strange stories are related of the earrings The famous earrings of his wife Maria of his wife, which are proverbial as significant of inestimable value 10. According to some, she presented them either before or upon her adoption of Christianity to the temple at Mecca: according to others, they remained in possession of her descendants, and were worn by Jabala VI, when in 637 A.D., he visited Mecca to do homage to Omar. Two Arab chiefs mentioned by Roman historians: – Abu Carib, and Cays The Roman historians notice, abont this time, two phylarchs who must have been distinct from the Bani Ghassan. One called Abo-Charib, (Aba Karib) received the chieftainship of the Arabs of Palestine, in exchange for “a country washed by the Red Sea.” 11 He assisted the Romans against the rebel Samaritans, and received in return 20,000 prisoners, whom he sold into Persia and Abyssinia. The other, Cays a prince of the Kinda, is also mentioned as having received an Arab principality from Justinian, about the year 536 12. Harith V. 530-572 A.D. HARITH V., surnamed the Lame, is styled with satisfactory accuracy by Procopius, “Arethas, son of Gabala,” i.e. of Jabala III. He is celebrated for the honors showered upon him by Justinian who, in consideration of his doubtful aid against the Persians, conferred upon him the title of King 13, and the rank of Patrician. Treacherous assistance rendered to the Romans In 531 A.D. he contributed to the defeat of Belisarius, by his “treacherous or cowardly desertion” at the battle of Callinicus 14. Ten years later, he assisted Belisarius in an inroad upon Mesopotamia, and by creating a diversion foiled the ambitious plans of Chosroes: but again he acted treacherously, and secured for himself the solo booty of a rich tract of country, while by false advices he beguiled the Romans, who long waited under a pestilential sun in the vain expectation of his return 15. The Arab historians are silent upon these exploits, but they relate an expedition against the Jews of Tayma and Khaibar. His visit to Constantinople 562 A.D. The wars of Harith V., with Hira have already been related, under the reigns of Mundzir III. and Amr III 16. Harith visited Constantinople A.D. 562, to complain of the hostilities of Amr after the conclusion of peace, and to procure the recognition of his son Harith as his successor. It was towards the end of the reign of Harith the Lame that Mahomet was born. Harith the Less, 572-587 A.D. Of HARITH THE LESS little is related, but that he obtained a victory oter Mundzir III., at Ayn Obugh; and indeed the kingdom of the Ghassanides does not henceforth occupy any distinguished place in the pages of history. Amr IV., Abu Shammir, 587-597 ; his patronage of Arab poets The successor of this prince, Amr IV., surnamed ABU SHAMMIR, has been rendered illustrious by his patronage of the poets of Arabia. It was in his reign that Hassan ibn Thabit, the famous poet of Islam and friend of Mahomet, first appeared at the Ghassanide court, where he met his fellow poets Nabigha and Aleama, and began to enjoy the favor of a dynasty several of whom distinguished him by peculiar honors. Harith VII. 600-630 A.D. From 600 to 630 A.D., the chief ruler of the Ghassanides was HARITH VII., son of Abu Shammir, whose residence appears to have been sometimes at Jabia, sometimes at Amman (Philadelphia), the capital of Balcua 17. In 629 A.D., Mahomet addressed to him a summons to embrace the cause of Islam, which he contemptuously refused, and shortly after died 18. Contemporaneously with Harith, and probably subordinate to him, The inferior governments of Ayham and Shurahbil there reigned at Palmyra AYHAM son of Jabala; and there also existed other inferior governments, such as that of SHURAHBIL son of Jabala IV. at Maab and Muta, in Arabia Petrea 19. Wane of the Ghassanide kingdom prepares the way for Islam Meanwhile the glory of the Ghassanide rule was departing. The inroads of the Persians, in the reign of Phocas and in the early years of Heraclius, bad given a shock from which it never recovered. It is remarked, even by a Mahometan writer, that the decadence of the race of Ghassan was preparing the way for the glories of the Arabian Prophet 20. Jabala VI. 630-637 A.D. The last king of the race was JABALA VI., son of Ayham. Hassan the poet always spoke of this prince with a grateful affection; and although, on embracing Islam, he discontinued his visits to the Ghassanide court, he was stilt honoured by Jabala with special marks of friendship. During Abu Bakr's Caliphate, this prince took an active, but always unfortunate, part in opposing the inroads of the Moslem armies, and he shared in the Goes over to Islam, but subsequently recants humiliation of the mournful day of Yarmuk. When Heraclius abandoned Syria, he joined Omar and professed to believe in Mahomet; but his faith in the new Prophet was neither deep nor lasting. On a fancied insult he recanted, and retired to Constantinople, where his name and his family long survived 21. The special influence exercised by Hira and the Ghassanide kingdom upon Central Arabia The Arab race, secluded from the rest of the word by pathless deserts, a peninsular position, and the peculiarities of nomad life, has in all ages maintained an extraordinary freedom from the contamination either of foreign blood or foreign manners, and a singular independence both of mind and institutions. Egypt, Syria, Persia, and the Abyssinian kingdom of Axum, bordered closely upon Arabia, or were separated from it only by narrow inlets of the ocean; yet their inhabitants exercised little influence on its social and political fortunes. They had no sympathy with the manners, and little acquaintance with the language of the people; while the inhospitable and barren steppes of the peninsula never permitted the successful encroachment of their arms. But the dynasties of Hira and of the Ghassanides were native to Arabia, and composed of elements which blended with the Arab mind, or at least left their impression upon it. Both in warlike and social relations there was with them a close connection. it was through them that the Arabs communicated with the external world, and received their ideas of Europe as well as of Asia. Hira, moreover, since the fall in Yemen of the Himyar line, became the paramount power in Central Arabia, – a power whose supremacy was acknowledged by all. To this cause, and to the permanence and prosperity of its capital, it was The Hejaz chiefly by Ghassanide Court owing that Hira enjoyed a larger political influence than the Ghassanide kingdom. But the latter, though inferior to the court of Hira in magnificence and stability, possessed, especially over the Western Ar abs, a more important social power. It lay closer to the Hejaz, and in the direct line of its commerce. There was, therefore, with its prince and people a frequent interchange of civility both in casual visits at the court, and in the regular passage of the mercantile caravans through the country. It is to this quarter, therefore, that we must chiefly look for the external influences which moulded the opinions of Mecca and Medina 22. The Life of Mahomet, Volume I [Table of Contents] Who is Mohamet? bod Mahomet is for Muhammad and history you do not think that the English was the language spoken by the Arabs or do you ? Pierre

It was a play get it “pretend” you didn't even know that it was not for real and if you took the time you would have realized the message was for Christians who are FINATICS and KILL in the name of Jesus you have been duped and I thank you for finally coming clean

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It was a play get it “pretend” you didn't even know that it was not for real and if you took the time you would have realized the message was for Christians who are FINATICS and KILL in the name of Jesus you have been duped and I thank you for finally coming clean

prove it or be declared a liar

Pierre

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bod

Beginnings of the Quran
Part of a series on the
Quran

Mus'haf
Sura · Ayah
Central figures
Adam · Noah · Abraham · Joseph (son of Jacob) · Moses
King David · King Solomon · Mary (mother of Jesus)|Mary
Jesus Christ · Muhammad
Quran reading
Tajwid · Hizb · Tarteel · Quranic guardian
Manzil · Qari' · Juz' · Rasm · Ruku' · Sujud
Translations
List of translations · English translations
History
Meccan suras · Medinan suras
Tafsir
Persons related to verses · Justice
Asbab al-nuzul · Naskh · Biblical narratives
Tahrif · Bakkah · Muqatta'at
Esoteric interpretation
Quran and Sunnah
Literalism · Miracles · Science
Female figures
Perspectives
Shia · Criticism · Desecration
Surah of Wilaya and Nurayn · Tanazzulat
Qisas Al-Anbiya · House of the Quran
v d e
See also: Muhammad's first revelation, History of the Quran, and Wahy

The cave Hira in the mountain Jabal al-Nour where, according to Muslim belief, Muhammad received his first revelation.
Muhammad adopted the practice of meditating alone for several weeks every year in a cave on Mount Hira near Mecca.[59][60] Islamic tradition holds that during one of his visits to Mount Hira, the angel Gabriel appeared to him in the year 610 and commanded Muhammad to recite the following verses:[61]

A depiction of Muhammad receiving his first revelation from the angel Gabriel. From the manuscript Jami' al-tawarikh by Rashid-al-Din Hamadani, 1307, Ilkhanate period.
Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created-
Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood:
Proclaim! And thy Lord is Most Bountiful,-
He Who taught (the use of) the pen,-
Taught man that which he knew not.
—Quran, sura 96 (Al-Alaq), ayat 1-5[62]
After returning home, Muhammad was consoled and reassured by Khadijah and her Christian cousin , Waraqah ibn Nawfal. Upon receiving his first revelations, he was deeply distressed and resolved to commit suicide.[42] He also feared that others would dismiss his claims as being possessed.[42] Shi'a tradition maintains that Muhammad was neither surprised nor frightened at the appearance of Gabriel but rather welcomed him as if he had been expecting him.[63] The initial revelation was followed by a pause of three years during which Muhammad further gave himself to prayers and spiritual practices. When the revelations resumed he was reassured and commanded to begin preaching: “Thy Guardian-Lord hath not forsaken thee, nor is He displeased.”[64][65][66]
Sahih Bukhari narrates Muhammad describing the revelations as, “Sometimes it is (revealed) like the ringing of a bell” and Aisha reported, “I saw the Prophet being inspired Divinely on a very cold day and noticed the sweat dropping from his forehead (as the Inspiration was over)”.[1] According to Welch these revelations were accompanied by mysterious seizures, and the reports are unlikely to have been forged by later Muslims.[12] Muhammad was confident that he could distinguish his own thoughts from these messages.[67] According to the Quran, one of the main roles of Muhammad is to warn the unbelievers of their eschatological punishment (Quran 38:70, Quran 6:19). Sometimes the Quran does not explicitly refer to the Judgment day but provides examples from the history of some extinct communities and warns Muhammad's contemporaries of similar calamities (Quran 41:13–16).[22] Muhammad is not only a warner to those who reject God's revelation, but also a bearer of good news for those who abandon evil, listen to the divine word and serve God.[68] Muhammad's mission also involves preaching monotheism: The Quran commands Muhammad to proclaim and praise the name of his Lord and instructs him not to worship idols or associate other deities with God.[14][22]

it says that one of Muhammad Cousins was a Christian believer ,this is strange but start to make sens why you need the bible to understand the Koran his book

[bodhitharta]

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bod Beginnings of the Quran Part of a series on the Quran Mus'haf Sura · Ayah Central figures Adam · Noah · Abraham · Joseph (son of Jacob) · Moses King David · King Solomon · Mary (mother of Jesus)|Mary Jesus Christ · Muhammad Quran reading Tajwid · Hizb · Tarteel · Quranic guardian Manzil · Qari' · Juz' · Rasm · Ruku' · Sujud Translations List of translations · English translations History Meccan suras · Medinan suras Tafsir Persons related to verses · Justice Asbab al-nuzul · Naskh · Biblical narratives Tahrif · Bakkah · Muqatta'at Esoteric interpretation Quran and Sunnah Literalism · Miracles · Science Female figures Perspectives Shia · Criticism · Desecration Surah of Wilaya and Nurayn · Tanazzulat Qisas Al-Anbiya · House of the Quran v d e See also: Muhammad's first revelation, History of the Quran, and Wahy The cave Hira in the mountain Jabal al-Nour where, according to Muslim belief, Muhammad received his first revelation. Muhammad adopted the practice of meditating alone for several weeks every year in a cave on Mount Hira near Mecca.[59][60] Islamic tradition holds that during one of his visits to Mount Hira, the angel Gabriel appeared to him in the year 610 and commanded Muhammad to recite the following verses:[61] A depiction of Muhammad receiving his first revelation from the angel Gabriel. From the manuscript Jami' al-tawarikh by Rashid-al-Din Hamadani, 1307, Ilkhanate period. Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created- Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood: Proclaim! And thy Lord is Most Bountiful,- He Who taught (the use of) the pen,- Taught man that which he knew not. —Quran, sura 96 (Al-Alaq), ayat 1-5[62] After returning home, Muhammad was consoled and reassured by Khadijah and her Christian cousin , Waraqah ibn Nawfal. Upon receiving his first revelations, he was deeply distressed and resolved to commit suicide.[42] He also feared that others would dismiss his claims as being possessed.[42] Shi'a tradition maintains that Muhammad was neither surprised nor frightened at the appearance of Gabriel but rather welcomed him as if he had been expecting him.[63] The initial revelation was followed by a pause of three years during which Muhammad further gave himself to prayers and spiritual practices. When the revelations resumed he was reassured and commanded to begin preaching: “Thy Guardian-Lord hath not forsaken thee, nor is He displeased.”[64][65][66] Sahih Bukhari narrates Muhammad describing the revelations as, “Sometimes it is (revealed) like the ringing of a bell” and Aisha reported, “I saw the Prophet being inspired Divinely on a very cold day and noticed the sweat dropping from his forehead (as the Inspiration was over)”.[1] According to Welch these revelations were accompanied by mysterious seizures, and the reports are unlikely to have been forged by later Muslims.[12] Muhammad was confident that he could distinguish his own thoughts from these messages.[67] According to the Quran, one of the main roles of Muhammad is to warn the unbelievers of their eschatological punishment (Quran 38:70, Quran 6:19). Sometimes the Quran does not explicitly refer to the Judgment day but provides examples from the history of some extinct communities and warns Muhammad's contemporaries of similar calamities (Quran 41:13–16).[22] Muhammad is not only a warner to those who reject God's revelation, but also a bearer of good news for those who abandon evil, listen to the divine word and serve God.[68] Muhammad's mission also involves preaching monotheism: The Quran commands Muhammad to proclaim and praise the name of his Lord and instructs him not to worship idols or associate other deities with God.[14][22] it says that one of Muhammad Cousins was a Christian believer ,this is strange but start to make sens why you need the bible to understand the Koran his book

So you should try to understand it then

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,10:13) bod Beginnings of the Quran Part of a series on the Quran Mus'haf Sura · Ayah Central figures Adam · Noah · Abraham · Joseph (son of Jacob) · Moses King David · King Solomon · Mary (mother of Jesus)|Mary Jesus Christ · Muhammad Quran reading Tajwid · Hizb · Tarteel · Quranic guardian Manzil · Qari' · Juz' · Rasm · Ruku' · Sujud Translations List of translations · English translations History Meccan suras · Medinan suras Tafsir Persons related to verses · Justice Asbab al-nuzul · Naskh · Biblical narratives Tahrif · Bakkah · Muqatta'at Esoteric interpretation Quran and Sunnah Literalism · Miracles · Science Female figures Perspectives Shia · Criticism · Desecration Surah of Wilaya and Nurayn · Tanazzulat Qisas Al-Anbiya · House of the Quran v d e See also: Muhammad's first revelation, History of the Quran, and Wahy The cave Hira in the mountain Jabal al-Nour where, according to Muslim belief, Muhammad received his first revelation. Muhammad adopted the practice of meditating alone for several weeks every year in a cave on Mount Hira near Mecca.[59][60] Islamic tradition holds that during one of his visits to Mount Hira, the angel Gabriel appeared to him in the year 610 and commanded Muhammad to recite the following verses:[61] A depiction of Muhammad receiving his first revelation from the angel Gabriel. From the manuscript Jami' al-tawarikh by Rashid-al-Din Hamadani, 1307, Ilkhanate period. Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created- Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood: Proclaim! And thy Lord is Most Bountiful,- He Who taught (the use of) the pen,- Taught man that which he knew not. —Quran, sura 96 (Al-Alaq), ayat 1-5[62] After returning home, Muhammad was consoled and reassured by Khadijah and her Christian cousin , Waraqah ibn Nawfal. Upon receiving his first revelations, he was deeply distressed and resolved to commit suicide.[42] He also feared that others would dismiss his claims as being possessed.[42] Shi'a tradition maintains that Muhammad was neither surprised nor frightened at the appearance of Gabriel but rather welcomed him as if he had been expecting him.[63] The initial revelation was followed by a pause of three years during which Muhammad further gave himself to prayers and spiritual practices. When the revelations resumed he was reassured and commanded to begin preaching: “Thy Guardian-Lord hath not forsaken thee, nor is He displeased.”[64][65][66] Sahih Bukhari narrates Muhammad describing the revelations as, “Sometimes it is (revealed) like the ringing of a bell” and Aisha reported, “I saw the Prophet being inspired Divinely on a very cold day and noticed the sweat dropping from his forehead (as the Inspiration was over)”.[1] According to Welch these revelations were accompanied by mysterious seizures, and the reports are unlikely to have been forged by later Muslims.[12] Muhammad was confident that he could distinguish his own thoughts from these messages.[67] According to the Quran, one of the main roles of Muhammad is to warn the unbelievers of their eschatological punishment (Quran 38:70, Quran 6:19). Sometimes the Quran does not explicitly refer to the Judgment day but provides examples from the history of some extinct communities and warns Muhammad's contemporaries of similar calamities (Quran 41:13–16).[22] Muhammad is not only a warner to those who reject God's revelation, but also a bearer of good news for those who abandon evil, listen to the divine word and serve God.[68] Muhammad's mission also involves preaching monotheism: The Quran commands Muhammad to proclaim and praise the name of his Lord and instructs him not to worship idols or associate other deities with God.[14][22] it says that one of Muhammad Cousins was a Christian believer ,this is strange but start to make sens why you need the bible to understand the Koran his book So you should try to understand it then

bod

what I am saying that the Koran is a book like the Mormon from Joseph Smith,

fakes, but many people like lies ,the truth is not for them and for you,

Pierre

[bodhitharta]

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,19:47) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,10:13) bod Beginnings of the Quran Part of a series on the Quran Mus'haf Sura · Ayah Central figures Adam · Noah · Abraham · Joseph (son of Jacob) · Moses King David · King Solomon · Mary (mother of Jesus)|Mary Jesus Christ · Muhammad Quran reading Tajwid · Hizb · Tarteel · Quranic guardian Manzil · Qari' · Juz' · Rasm · Ruku' · Sujud Translations List of translations · English translations History Meccan suras · Medinan suras Tafsir Persons related to verses · Justice Asbab al-nuzul · Naskh · Biblical narratives Tahrif · Bakkah · Muqatta'at Esoteric interpretation Quran and Sunnah Literalism · Miracles · Science Female figures Perspectives Shia · Criticism · Desecration Surah of Wilaya and Nurayn · Tanazzulat Qisas Al-Anbiya · House of the Quran v d e See also: Muhammad's first revelation, History of the Quran, and Wahy The cave Hira in the mountain Jabal al-Nour where, according to Muslim belief, Muhammad received his first revelation. Muhammad adopted the practice of meditating alone for several weeks every year in a cave on Mount Hira near Mecca.[59][60] Islamic tradition holds that during one of his visits to Mount Hira, the angel Gabriel appeared to him in the year 610 and commanded Muhammad to recite the following verses:[61] A depiction of Muhammad receiving his first revelation from the angel Gabriel. From the manuscript Jami' al-tawarikh by Rashid-al-Din Hamadani, 1307, Ilkhanate period. Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created- Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood: Proclaim! And thy Lord is Most Bountiful,- He Who taught (the use of) the pen,- Taught man that which he knew not. —Quran, sura 96 (Al-Alaq), ayat 1-5[62] After returning home, Muhammad was consoled and reassured by Khadijah and her Christian cousin , Waraqah ibn Nawfal. Upon receiving his first revelations, he was deeply distressed and resolved to commit suicide.[42] He also feared that others would dismiss his claims as being possessed.[42] Shi'a tradition maintains that Muhammad was neither surprised nor frightened at the appearance of Gabriel but rather welcomed him as if he had been expecting him.[63] The initial revelation was followed by a pause of three years during which Muhammad further gave himself to prayers and spiritual practices. When the revelations resumed he was reassured and commanded to begin preaching: “Thy Guardian-Lord hath not forsaken thee, nor is He displeased.”[64][65][66] Sahih Bukhari narrates Muhammad describing the revelations as, “Sometimes it is (revealed) like the ringing of a bell” and Aisha reported, “I saw the Prophet being inspired Divinely on a very cold day and noticed the sweat dropping from his forehead (as the Inspiration was over)”.[1] According to Welch these revelations were accompanied by mysterious seizures, and the reports are unlikely to have been forged by later Muslims.[12] Muhammad was confident that he could distinguish his own thoughts from these messages.[67] According to the Quran, one of the main roles of Muhammad is to warn the unbelievers of their eschatological punishment (Quran 38:70, Quran 6:19). Sometimes the Quran does not explicitly refer to the Judgment day but provides examples from the history of some extinct communities and warns Muhammad's contemporaries of similar calamities (Quran 41:13–16).[22] Muhammad is not only a warner to those who reject God's revelation, but also a bearer of good news for those who abandon evil, listen to the divine word and serve God.[68] Muhammad's mission also involves preaching monotheism: The Quran commands Muhammad to proclaim and praise the name of his Lord and instructs him not to worship idols or associate other deities with God.[14][22] it says that one of Muhammad Cousins was a Christian believer ,this is strange but start to make sens why you need the bible to understand the Koran his book So you should try to understand it then bod what I am saying that the Koran is a book like the Mormon from Joseph Smith, fakes, but many people like lies ,the truth is not for them and for you, Pierre

I bet you never read the book of Mormon either but still you will reject what you have no knowledge of.

[terraricca]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 22 2012,09:50)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,16:00) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,19:47) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2012,10:13) bod Beginnings of the Quran Part of a series on the Quran Mus'haf Sura · Ayah Central figures Adam · Noah · Abraham · Joseph (son of Jacob) · Moses King David · King Solomon · Mary (mother of Jesus)|Mary Jesus Christ · Muhammad Quran reading Tajwid · Hizb · Tarteel · Quranic guardian Manzil · Qari' · Juz' · Rasm · Ruku' · Sujud Translations List of translations · English translations History Meccan suras · Medinan suras Tafsir Persons related to verses · Justice Asbab al-nuzul · Naskh · Biblical narratives Tahrif · Bakkah · Muqatta'at Esoteric interpretation Quran and Sunnah Literalism · Miracles · Science Female figures Perspectives Shia · Criticism · Desecration Surah of Wilaya and Nurayn · Tanazzulat Qisas Al-Anbiya · House of the Quran v d e See also: Muhammad's first revelation, History of the Quran, and Wahy The cave Hira in the mountain Jabal al-Nour where, according to Muslim belief, Muhammad received his first revelation. Muhammad adopted the practice of meditating alone for several weeks every year in a cave on Mount Hira near Mecca.[59][60] Islamic tradition holds that during one of his visits to Mount Hira, the angel Gabriel appeared to him in the year 610 and commanded Muhammad to recite the following verses:[61] A depiction of Muhammad receiving his first revelation from the angel Gabriel. From the manuscript Jami' al-tawarikh by Rashid-al-Din Hamadani, 1307, Ilkhanate period. Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created- Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed blood: Proclaim! And thy Lord is Most Bountiful,- He Who taught (the use of) the pen,- Taught man that which he knew not. —Quran, sura 96 (Al-Alaq), ayat 1-5[62] After returning home, Muhammad was consoled and reassured by Khadijah and her Christian cousin , Waraqah ibn Nawfal. Upon receiving his first revelations, he was deeply distressed and resolved to commit suicide.[42] He also feared that others would dismiss his claims as being possessed.[42] Shi'a tradition maintains that Muhammad was neither surprised nor frightened at the appearance of Gabriel but rather welcomed him as if he had been expecting him.[63] The initial revelation was followed by a pause of three years during which Muhammad further gave himself to prayers and spiritual practices. When the revelations resumed he was reassured and commanded to begin preaching: “Thy Guardian-Lord hath not forsaken thee, nor is He displeased.”[64][65][66] Sahih Bukhari narrates Muhammad describing the revelations as, “Sometimes it is (revealed) like the ringing of a bell” and Aisha reported, “I saw the Prophet being inspired Divinely on a very cold day and noticed the sweat dropping from his forehead (as the Inspiration was over)”.[1] According to Welch these revelations were accompanied by mysterious seizures, and the reports are unlikely to have been forged by later Muslims.[12] Muhammad was confident that he could distinguish his own thoughts from these messages.[67] According to the Quran, one of the main roles of Muhammad is to warn the unbelievers of their eschatological punishment (Quran 38:70, Quran 6:19). Sometimes the Quran does not explicitly refer to the Judgment day but provides examples from the history of some extinct communities and warns Muhammad's contemporaries of similar calamities (Quran 41:13–16).[22] Muhammad is not only a warner to those who reject God's revelation, but also a bearer of good news for those who abandon evil, listen to the divine word and serve God.[68] Muhammad's mission also involves preaching monotheism: The Quran commands Muhammad to proclaim and praise the name of his Lord and instructs him not to worship idols or associate other deities with God.[14][22] it says that one of Muhammad Cousins was a Christian believer ,this is strange but start to make sens why you need the bible to understand the Koran his book So you should try to understand it then bod what I am saying that the Koran is a book like the Mormon from Joseph Smith, fakes, but many people like lies ,the truth is not for them and for you, Pierre I bet you never read the book of Mormon either but still you will reject what you have no knowledge of.

bod

wrong again

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I bet you never read the book of Mormon either but still you will reject what you have no knowledge of.[/quote] bod wrong again

You have read the entire Book of Mormon?

[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2012,03:09) I bet you never read the book of Mormon either but still you will reject what you have no knowledge of. bod wrong again[/quote] You have read the entire Book of Mormon?

bod

not really but I went through all of it and of cause around the time they take you on their trip to wonder land that is wen I stopped ,

just like I did with the Koran

and any other religion literature ,I did not do like you reading a false book and then embrace it as a true one ,

Pierre

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 22 2012,12:27) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2012,03:09) I bet you never read the book of Mormon either but still you will reject what you have no knowledge of. bod wrong again You have read the entire Book of Mormon?[/quote] bod not really but I went through all of it and of cause around the time they take you on their trip to wonder land that is wen I stopped , just like I did with the Koran and any other religion literature ,I did not do like you reading a false book and then embrace it as a true one , Pierre

Like I thought not reading and yet judging without knowledge

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 22 2012,15:47)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2012,06:49) Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 22 2012,12:27) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 22 2012,03:09) I bet you never read the book of Mormon either but still you will reject what you have no knowledge of. bod wrong again You have read the entire Book of Mormon? bod not really but I went through all of it and of cause around the time they take you on their trip to wonder land that is wen I stopped , just like I did with the Koran and any other religion literature ,I did not do like you reading a false book and then embrace it as a true one , Pierre

Like I thought not reading and yet judging without knowledge[/quote]
bod

do you eat the rotten apple ?

wen you build a house do you accept croquet walls,and floors ,windows ??

if you do let me know I know some people who may build for you they are called Handy man .

Pierre

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,06:35)

So is ED a true Christian since you said that you can see who is a “real believer”

You know them by their fruits Bod.

I have never met Edj. I know very little about him outside of his written word and numbers.

[Proclaimer]

You guys realise that you do not have to quote all the time.
I know that I give up reading conversations when 95% of each post is a quote from a previous post.
It is so much easier to read a conversation when one person says something followed by another.
It is a natural way to read and people know what you are talking about if they are following the conversation.

Sometimes a little explanation or a little quote is much better than a whole post. I mean who read a quoted post in that small text when it is really long? I bet not even 1%.

[charity]

yea! so true of NATURE t8, as.. no one really knows what conversations recorded n the bible were absolutly about, so they quote their own Understanding over an over again along with every other body an their second hand Idea's.

thats life, but i wish we all could understand, we all came alike from the man-ufactura.

[Spock]

Quote (charity @ July 06 2012,21:06)

yea! so true of NATURE t8,  as.. no one really knows what  conversations recorded n the bible were absolutly about, so they quote their own Understanding over an over again along with every other body an their second hand Idea's. thats life, but i wish we all could understand, we all came alike from the man-ufactura.

Separate the truth from the teller.

Colter

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 17 2012,09:17)

Well, I am trying to see what all you guys really believe I should do after all you are all Christians so as a Christian should you study the numbers that ED presents?

The bible teaches that God is the Father and God has a son, Jesus Christ.

God sent his son into the world to die for humanities sins and rose from the dead and is seated at the right-hand of God interceding for us.

Generally this is well accepted with most Christians and disagreements are usually over other stuff that is not as important.

Disagreements arise because the bible doesn't join all the dots and leaves much as a mystery to be understood by those who seek. Of course this will cause some to have opinions even strong ones. Paul the apostle warned that many deceivers would even come and say that Jesus was the Christ, but would still deceive many.

In the end, we have the responsibility for our own soul and to seek the truth. We are told that we will find if we seek and I believe this to be the case.

But I would rather participate and make mistakes than sit on the sidelines and criticize. I am running the race and there are spectators saying things like “why does he bother to run”, or “he can't run very fast”. But I care little for such criticisms. I have already been rewarded greatly for my faith in God and my hope is all the more when that day comes.

[Ed J]

Hi T8,

Excellent response!

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

[Stu]

Quote (t8 @ July 07 2012,00:11)

The bible teaches that God is the Father and God has a son, Jesus Christ. God sent his son into the world to die for humanities sins and rose from the dead and is seated at the right-hand of God interceding for us. Generally this is well accepted with most Christians and disagreements are usually over other stuff that is not as important.

The biggest disagreement here often is whether Jesus and the god character and the ghost thing are actually sitting in the same seat, or not.

Stuart

[mikeboll64]

1Corinthians 8:6

A.  yet for us there is but one God, the Father…………..

B.  yet for us there is but one Godhead, the Unity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit………………..

One of those is the actual scripture.  Those who believe the other are fairly scarce around here lately.

[Stu]

Hope you haven't been burning them at the stake.

Stuart

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