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  • #864408
    carmel
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    Hi, Pilgrim and ALL

    YOU: Those who do not receive him for who He is do not receive life

    but to those who “receive him, to them” He gives “power to become

    the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

    Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man,

    but of God”

    ME:   by the ACTUAL SEED of Jesus

    THE SON OF MAN,

    ATTENTION PLEASE:

    THROUGHOUT THOSE MOST MYSTERIOUS FORTY DAYS JESUS REMAINED ON EARTH, AND TILL PENTECOST!

    In full humility permit me to share and

    reveal to you what I received, despite a SINNER and

    UNQUALIFIED IN ANYTHING, SIMPLY GUIDED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT.

    On 15th June 2017, while reciting the Rosary, and while meditating on the changing of water into wine,

    In that instant, the phrase IN A TWINKLING OF AN EYE went through my mind for a mere split of a second. Instantly It was revealed to me that

    as much as Jesus IN A TWINKLING OF AN EYE turned the water into wine,

    which signifies the changing of souls into spirits, IN HIMSELF. Hence

    From the cross, Jesus the Son of Man LIKEWISE,

    IN A TWINKLING OF AN EYE, on his death,

    JESUS’THIRST,

    Jesus judged the earth with respect to

    His unfathomable MERCY.  Well predicted in

    Psalm 103:10 He hath not dealt with us according to OUR SINS:

    nor rewarded us according to OUR INIQUITIES.

    11For according to the height of the heaven above the earth: he hath strengthened his

    MERCY towards them that fear him. ( FEAR that they AS SINNERS would end up ETERNALLY CONDEMNED in HELLFIRE)

    12As far as the east is from the west, so far hath

    he removed our iniquities from us.

    Isaiah 1:18 And then come, and accuse me, saith the Lord:

    if your sins be as scarlet, they shall be made as white as snow:
    and if they be red as crimson, they shall be white as wool.

    Also, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, Jesus’ MERCY on the cross predicted in

    Isaiah 61:2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and

    THE DAY OF VENGEANCE OF OUR GOD: (ERADICATED SATAN ON THE CROSS)

    TO COMFORT ALL THOSE WHO MOURN (IN HELL FROM ADAM’S SIN.)

    was revealed between 1930/38 by

    DIVINE MERCY JESUS to St. Faustina hereunder:
     

    It was the hour of grace for the whole world

    MERCY TRIUMPHED OVER JUSTICE.

    Jesus on His death toppled Satan from the entire process of the world.

    CONSEQUENTLY, HE THROUGHOUT THE FORTY DAYS HE REMAINED ON EARTH  AND TILL PENTECOST, JUSTIFIED HIMSELF AS

    THE TRUTH, RULED EARTH GLORIFIED AND EMBODIED IN THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE, AS THE SOLE SOVEREIGN SPIRIT OVER

    BOTH GOOD AND EVIL.

    Thus the entire human race while they lived in their normal filthy life, and totally blind of what occurred spiritually in their EMBODIMENT/souls were more holy than Adam and Eve were on their creation

    purified and purchased by Jesus own blood, simply RECREATED ANEW

    IN SPIRIT, SOUL and FLESH as

    JESUS’EMBODIMENT 

    TEMPLES OF GOD with Jesus’ presence GLORIFIED in their

    SOULS, NO MATTER WHO, and WHAT.

    Hence The world was not only saved but

    THE NEW PARADISE. Pinpointed out by Jesus on the cross in

    Luke 23:43 And Jesus said to him: Amen I say to thee, this day thou shall be with me in paradise.

    Hence IN VIEW OF ALL THE ABOVE, ON JESUS’ DEATH,  ALL SOULS, BOTH GOOD AND EVIL, BECAME JESUS’PROPERTY, and the thief’s soul was not AN EXCEPTION!

    And  while he was still alive, the fact that the soldiers smashed his knees, and felt nothing AT ALL, in FULL ecstasy,  by God’s grace he SAW and EXPERIENCED God’s kingdom ON EARTH, OR MORE PRECISE THE NEW PARADISE, thus 

    AS JESUS SAID, the thief was

    WITH JESUS IN PARADISE, that same day, on that same moment on the cross!

    Both in his soul and in front of his eyes. Predicted by Jesus in

    Mark 9:1 Amen, I say to you, that there are some of them that stand here,

    who shall not taste death, till they see the kingdom of God coming in power.

    Now as mentioned above, JESUS EMBODIED IN THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE IN

    SPIRIT, SOULS, AND FLESH

    HE, THE SON OF MAN

    IMPLANTED THE SEED OF

    HIS FIRSTFRUITS IN EVERY CONCEPTION OCCURRED ON EARTH! 

    MATHEW 13:37 Who made answer and said to them: He that soweth the good seed is

    THE SON OF MAN

    CHILDREN WERE BORN OF GOD IN EVERY BIRTH OCCURRED ON EARTH!

    John1:13 Who are born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man,

    BUT OF GOD.

    SOULS WERE RECEIVED STRAIGHT IN HEAVEN ON EVERY DEATH OCCURRED ON EARTH!

    Matthew 9:13 Go then and learn what this meaneth, I will have MERCY and not sacrifice. For I am not come to call the just,

    BUT SINNERS.

    THUS JESUS THROUGHOUT THE FORTY DAYS HE REMAINED ON EARTH, AND TILL PENTECOST, while Satan, THE GOD OF THIS WORLD, was locked in hell,

    MANIFESTED HIMSELF AS 

    THE ONLY TRUE GOD ON EARTH!

    GOD’S KINGDOM CAME and GOD’S WILL WAS DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.

    CONFIRMED IN

    Luke 17:20 And being asked by the Pharisees

    when the kingdom of God should come, he answering them and said:

    The kingdom of God cometh not with observation. (IT IS ALL SPIRITUAL)

    21Neither shall they say: Behold here, or behold there. For lo, the kingdom of God is

    within you. ( in your souls)

    22And he said to his disciples: The days will come when you shall

    desire to see (SPIRITUALLY) one day (OF THE FORTY DAYS) of the Son of man.(GLORIFIED IN HIS KINGDOM ON EARTH) 

    And you shall not see it. 

    23And they will say to you: See here, and see there. Go ye not after, nor follow them. 24For as the lightning that lighteneth from under heaven shineth unto the parts that are under heaven,

    so shall the Son of man be in his day. (ALL OVER THE WORLD IN ALL SOULS IN A TWINKLING OF AN EYE)

    25But first he must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation. 26And as it came to pass in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27They did eat and drink, they married wives and were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28Likewise as it came to pass in the days of Lot. They did eat and drink, they bought and sold, they planted and built. 29And in the day that Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.

    IN THE ABOVE JESUS EXPLAINED HOW GOD DESTROYED ALL SINNERS.

    LIKEWISE ON JESUS’ DEATH, THE DAY WHEN THE SON OF MAN SHALL BE REVEALED GLORIFIED AS

    GODMAN ON THE CROSS, ALL WOULD BE DESTROYED, BUT NOT THE HUMAN RACE FOR SURE ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY, BUT

    SATAN AND HIS DEMONS FROM ALL SOULS, AND THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF THE WORLD. 

    30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man shall be revealed. 

    31In that hour, (OF JESUS DEATH ) he that shall be on the housetop, and his goods in the house, let him not go down to take them away: and he that shall be in the field, in like manner, let him not return back. 32Remember Lot’s wife. 33Whosoever (DURING THE NIGHT OF JESUS DEATH, AND THE FORTY DAYS) shall seek to save his(PHYSICAL) life shall lose it:(SPIRITUALLY)  and whosoever shall lose( PHYSICALLY)  it shall preserve it.(IN HEAVEN)

    34I say to you: In that night(OF JESUS’DEATH) there shall be two men(GAYS, SINNERS)  in one bed. (BUT ALSO JESUS, THE SON OF MAN, ONE SPIRIT as man, and SATAN ONE SPIRIT as man IN EACH MAN) The one(satan) shall be taken and the other (JESUS, PRE-EXISTED as ETERNAL LIFE,)

    shall be left. ( WHERE HE ALWAYS WAS IN ALL HUMANS, AND IN THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF THE WORLD, ORIGINALLY SLAIN LIKE A LAMB from the beginning of the world……Rev 13:8 LIKEWISE)

    35Two women (LESBIANS, SINNERS) shall be grinding together. The one(satan) shall be taken and the other(JESUS, THE SON OF MAN) shall be left.

    Two men (SPIRITS, satan, and JESUS THE SON OF MAN, SLAIN LIKE A LAMB…….) shall be in the field.( THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF THE WORLD, LIKE A TREASURE HIDDEN IN A FIELD Matthew 13:44) The one(satan) shall be taken and the other (JESUS, THE SON OF MAN PRE-EXISTED AS A SPIRIT SLAIN LIKE A LAMB…..Rev.13:8) shall be left. (ETERNALLY, IN THE HUMAN HEART) 36They answering, say to him: Where, Lord? 37Who said to them: Wheresoever the body ( JESUS EMBODIMENT IN ALL ) shall be, thither will the eagles (GODS’ ANGELS FROM JESUS’ DEATH ONWARDS) also be gathered together.

     

    Peace and love in Jesus Christ

     

     

    #864412
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Carmel……Man!,  was that a delusional none scripture writting, You nearly completely left out God the Father, and transfered his Glory “completely” to Jesus, something Jesus never ever thought of doing.  Don’t know what bible text you use but, it certanly is not what the rest of us use . Seriously Carmel, you truly need some real  help,  I hope and pray for God the Father to forgive and help you brother, in the name of Jesus our Lord.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene

    #864542
    Jodi
    Participant

    Hi All,

    Let’s combine a few passages,

    Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: 11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.

    Isaiah 45:13 I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives.

    Isaiah 42:6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; 7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

    Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

    Declared from the beginning is a MAN to COME who will execute YHVH’s purpose. He is able to execute this purpose BECAUSE the Spirit of YHVH is upon him, an anointing, a calling to righteousness where YHVH has chosen to direct all the ways of this man. You have a man elected from among brethren to be fully led in all things by YHVH, and those that are led by the Spirit of God are the Son’s of God. We see this anointed man, the son of David who YHVH promised that He would be a Father to, SENT out into the world to be a light. This light comes to his own but they do not receive him, as many that do receive him they are promised to be made Sons of God, where thus they also are led by the Spirit, where also the Spirit bears witness to their spirit that they are likewise children of God.

    YHVH is our savior, and He saves us through His anointing Spirit, He begets a mortal man with that Spirit, that man is perfected by learning obedience, he is obedient through the Spirit as it directs all his ways. Our sins are forgiven because of YHVH’s anointing Spirit and what it accomplishes in a man. We are no longer held to the penalty of death by that forgiveness, we are promised a resurrection unto life eternal because YHVH gives us of that same Spirit that causes us to likewise walk in all of YHVH’s ways, as Jesus has received. Because we walk in all His ways, there is no longer any sin found in us, as long as that Spirit is ALL IN us, we have eternal life.

     

    #864544
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Jodi,

    If you walk in Jesus’ ways, you too will serve your head as Jesus did his.

    #864546
    Pilgrim
    Participant

    Hi Jodi,

    All see there was One who was prophesied to come, would be a man, a root and offspring of David, a righteous Branch and a King, the seed of Abraham, born of a woman, born under the law, the righteous branch, the arm of the Lord, a Priest after the order of Melchizedek who was like unto the son of God. That “since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.”  (1 Corinthians 15:21).

    But this One who came, the second man, was also the Word who is God and this Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us.

    You are not correct regarding the forgiveness of sins. This is not because of YVHV’s anointing but by the shedding of the the blood of God (Acts 20:28), Christ’s blood as scripture says “In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;”  (Ephesians 1:7; Colossians 1:14; Matthew 26:28). The Lamb Of God takes away sin. “And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:”  Hebrews 9:22-24. “but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.”  Hebrews 9:26

    #864549
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Pilgrim. …”.the “Lamb “of” God”, not the GOD lamb, as you people falsely preach. It was man who sinned, not God, it is also a “true man” that paid for those sins, no a GOD “desguised”  as a MAN, as you people preach.  Remember what God himself said,  “for GOD is “NOT” a man that he should lie, nor a “Son of man” that he should repent.” 

    GOD and his word are one and the same thing, Jesus is not now,   or ever was,  the word of GOD, “HIMSELF” , even though he “QUOTED” the FATHERS words to us.  That never made him a GOD, no more then quoting GOD’S words by the prophets ever made them a GOD either.   

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

    #864554
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Let’s combine a few passages,

    And ignore the more difficult scriptures.

    #864557
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Proclaimer……OK  let’s do that,   here’s a few straight forward scriptures we can begin with.

    John 17:3…..(Jesus said this)…., “And this is life eternal, that they might know you, “the “ONLY” TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent” . 

    1Ti 2:5…..For there is “One” God, and  one” mediator between God and men the “MAN” Christ (the anointed) Jesus. 

    Acts 17:31…because he (God) has appointed a day, in which he (God the Father) will judge the world in rightiousness “by that “MAN” whom he (God the Father) has ordained; whereof  he has given assurance unto “all men, in that he (God) has raised him (the “man” Jesus) from the dead.

    1 Cor 8:5-6  … For though there be that are called  Gods,  whether  in heaven or in earth, (as there be Gods many and  lords many,  (6) “But unto us (true believers),  there is but “ONE” God, the Father, of whom are “all” things, and we in him; 

    This just  just a few “clear” scriptures,   but there are many more , These scriptures don’t even mention the many we can also find in the old Testement scriptures which shows clearly there is “Only” one true GOD. AS FOUND in many many scriptures. 

    My question is how can anyone think they can some how get around these very simple and very clear scriptures?  Especially when God himself said he was not a man nor a “Son of man”,  but Jesus said he was a “son of man” around 80 times.  How many very clear scriptures do these people think they can just ignore, and think they will not be held accountable for it?

    Peace and love to you all and yours………gene

    #864566
    Lightenup
    Participant

    If the one true God calls the only begotten Son: “God” and “YHVH our Righteousness” then it is so.

    Heb 1, Jeremiah 23:6.

    #864567
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    If Jesus says ‘ye are theos’, then so be it.

    #864570
    Pilgrim
    Participant

    Re: 1 Corinthians 8:6 and Mark 12:29:

    To interpret that 1 Corinthians 8:6 teaches that One God is the Father to the exclusion of Christ Jesus is to argue “One Lord Jesus Christ” means Jesus Christ is Lord to the exclusion of the Father.

    Further if Jesus is the One Lord as Paul says then “Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:“ (Mark 12:29) could be read “Hear, O Israel; Jesus Christ our God is one Lord”. The Greek word for Lord in both passages is “Kurios”.

    In addition, 1 Corinthians 6:8 should be read in context. The discussion in the chapter is about idols. Paul is making a contrast, in contradistinction from the “many gods” the “many lords” whom the pagans worshipped.<span class=”Apple-converted-space”> </span>Mankind has a multitude of idols, gods and lords. In contrast, believers worship only one who is genuinely/truly God and one who is genuinely/truly Lord. Also the whole verse needs to be read in its entirety i.e. the Father “of whom are all things, and we in him“ and of Jesus Christ “by whom are all things, and we by him” (See Hebrews 1:2; Colossians 1:15-18).

    Re: Mark 12:29:

    Jesus is not including himself by using “our” since he is simply quoting OT text (Deuteronomy 6:4) in answer to a question about what is the first commandment, not about himself in relation to the first commandment. But even if He were including himself in using “our” would he not be speaking in his capacity as the representative man, the Son Of Man. It is in this capacity that Jesus is speaking in John 17:3, as MAN(representative of true man). But there is more because the verse is telling us the source of Eternal Life and the manner it is obtained is by the knowledge (intimate fellowship) of both God and of his Son Jesus Christ who is the Eternal life that “eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us“.

    And reading on in John 17 Jesus, who incidentally prays more for others than himself, he discloses to us that he is returning to the Father from whom he came, having accomplished the work he was sent to do I.e. the redemption and reconciliation of the world, “For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.” (1 Corinthians 15:21). He had glorified the Father on the earth, and would glorify it by his death, resurrection and ascension. Because he had fulfilled the will of God, he is asking Father to glorify him “with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was”. So John 17 not only showing the Manhood Of Jesus but reveals he had a pre-existent glory and he was returning “home”. That glory can’t mean a glory he had before the world as a “word” or “thought” in God because he is asking to be glorified with the Father’s “self” (his essential being as God) and he is using a personal pronoun “I”, indicating personal existence.

    it is so important to read scripture in context not pluck words out.

    #864571
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Pilgram. ….No it isn’t saying Jesus is GOD,  DID YOU NOTICE the word ““OUR” in that statement, Jesus was quoting?  DID YOU ALSO NOTICE the word LORD, (adonai) in Hebrew, means the “ALMIGHTY GOD “,  Jesus is not that, he is a “lord” (adoni)  which means any human ruler, like a human judge, king,  or magistrate.  Completely different words.  When are you people going to start to  believe Jesus,  who said this,  “that they might know you the “ONLY” TRUE GOD”,  and  (the man) Jesus Christ who you have sent, parentheses mine. 

    You all seam not to be able to seperate the truth from a LIE, if you had the “SPIRIT OF TRUTH”  abiding in you, you would understand very clearly what Jodi and I  are  telling you. 

    Peace and love to you all and yours. ……….gene

    #864572
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    LU…..Don’t you understand that Jesus “riflects” God the Father to us by “quoting” “his” , the Fathers words to us? ,  Jesus said clearly,” I have glorified “you”, on the earth”, tell me what does that mean to you?  How was he Glorifying the Father on the earth , was it by stealing his (God the Fathers) words and applying them to himself?, as you people do.  Jesus is lord to the glory of the Father, not to the glory of himself.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #864573
    Pilgrim
    Participant

    This text has been used to prove that God is not a man “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?”  (Numbers 23:19).

    Tragically that interpretation is again taken out of context and miss the meaning of the text. Clearly God does repent (see Jeremiah 18:8; Amos 7:3-6, same word used). Jesus speaking to the Jews (John 8:39-58) called them liars. God is not a liar nor is Jesus. God is not a wrongdoer that he needs to repent like men. Jesus never sinned so never needed to repent.

    The meaning of the text is that God never changes his mind, alters his counsels, purposes, and decrees like men do. Look at the context to see what is being said. The rest of the text makes it plain “hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?“. He is faithful to his carry out his word. This is also very true of the perfect man Jesus Christ, which would clearly equate him as being of equal standing as God. In fact if it is claimed that the criteria to be God is not lying and not repenting then Jesus fits the criteria.

    It is tragic that verses are taken out of context in an attempt to prove a point.

    #864574
    carmel
    Participant

    Hi Jodi,

    Isaiah46:10 Who show from the beginning the things that shall be at last,

    Jodi, DO YOU KNOW WHAT GOD DID SHOW IN THE BEGINNING THAT 

     SHALL BE THE LAST THINGS? I TELL YOU:

    From scripture, we could quite easily know WHAT THE LAST THINGS SHALL BE! READ:

    1Corinthians 15:23 But every one in his own order: the firstfruits,  CHRIST: 

    then they that are of CHRIST, who have believed in his coming. 

    24Afterwards the end:

    when he (THE HOLY SPIRIT) shall have delivered up the kingdom to God and the Father:

    when he (THE HOLY SPIRIT) shall have brought to nought all principality and power and virtue. 

    25For he (JESUS CHRIST)  must reign until he (THE HOLY SPIRIT ) hath put all his(CHRIST’S) enemies under his (CHRIST’S) feet. 26And the enemy, death, shall be destroyed last: For he (THE HOLY SPIRIT)hath put all things under his(CHRIST’S) feet. And whereas he (GOD THE FATHER) saith: 27All things are put under him;(CHRIST’S) undoubtedly, he (GOD THE FATHER) is excepted,

    who put all things under him. (CHRIST)28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, (JESUS CHRIST,)

    then the Son (JESUS CHRIST, ) also himself (CHRIST’S BODY, JESUS THE SON OF MAN, THE CHURCH) shall be subject unto him (GOD THE FATHER) that put all things under him, (JESUS CHRIST) that

    God may be

    all in all. (THAT ARE IN JESUS CHRIST)

    Jodi,

    ON THE LAST DAY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST,

    WHO IS RIGHT NOW THE SOLE SOVEREIGN OVER ALL THE UNIVERSES.

    GOD THE FATHER WOULD OCCUPY

    THE BODY OF JESUS CHRIST,

    WELL CLEAR IN

    John16:25 These things I have spoken to you in proverbs. The hour cometh when I will no longer speak to you in proverbs,

    but will show you PLAINLY of

    the Father.

    NOW WITH RESPECT TO THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE IN Isaiah 46:10

    GOD, IN THE BEGINNING, SHOWED TO THE HEAVENLY REALMS,

    THAT SHALL BE THE LAST THINGS. OK JODI?

    let’s be clear:

    GOD THE FATHER, TO THE ONES WHO REMAINED LOYAL TO HIM AFTER THE REBEL, SHOWED HIMSELF TO THEM,

    IN THE BODY OF

    JESUS CHRIST.

    THIS IS WELL CONFIRMED ON JESUS BAPTISM BY JOHN,

    THE ANGEL OF GOD AND WHO WAS SENT FROM GOD, TO PROCLAIM JESUS DIVINITY WHEN HE SAID TO JESUS:

    But John stayed him, saying:

    I ought to be baptized by thee,(MY GOD)and comest thou to me?

    JODI, JESUS CHRIST PRE-EXISTED AS THE BODY OF GOD! CONFIRMED IN

    1Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ: and the head of the woman is the man: and

    the head of Christ is God.

    Now let’s read the rest of Isaiah 46:10…..:

    and from ancient times

    the things that as yet are not done, saying:

    My counsel shall stand, and
    all MY WILL shall be done:

    This is very easy and

    VERY CLEAR to accept Jodi:

    THE ENTIRE CREATION,

    WHO RIGHT NOW IS ALL THE EMBODIMENT OF

    JESUS CHRIST,  both good and evil,

    IS WELL ASSERTED IN

    1 Colossians 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, (BEFORE THE WORLD WAS) the firstborn of every creature:

    16For in him were all things created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominations, or principalities, or powers. All things were created by him and in him.

    17And he is before all:(BEFORE THE WORLD WAS)

    and by him all things consist.

    18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things he may hold the primacy: 19Because in him, it hath well pleased the Father

    that all fulness should dwell:

    20And through him to reconcile

    all things unto himself,

    making peace through the blood of his cross,

    both as to the things that are on earth and the things that are in heaven.

    Now LET’S GO BACK to the end of Isaiah 46:…

    saying:

    My counsel shall stand, and

    all MY WILL shall be done: (IN CREATION ALL IN JESUS CHRIST

    ALL CHILDREN OF JESUS CHRIST)

    Isaiah 9:6 For a CHILD IS BORN to us, and a son is given to us, and

    the government is upon his shoulder:

    and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,

    God the Mighty, the Father of the world to come, the Prince of Peace.

    JESUS CHRIST AS GOD ALMIGHTY and

    GOD ALMIGHTY AS

    JESUS CHRIST

    Luke 10:22 ALL THINGS

    are delivered to me by my Father.

    And no one knoweth who the Son is, but the Father:

    and who the Father is, but the Son and

    to whom the Son will reveal him.( IN THE ENTIRE CREATION, AND IN

    HIMSELF,

    JESUS CHRIST)

     

    Peace and love in Jesus Christ

     

     

     

     

     

     

    #864576
    Pilgrim
    Participant

    Praise, glory and honour be to Christ Jesus, “the brightness of God’s glory, and the express image of his person”, “the Word of Life”, that “eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested“ in flesh and blood and was “seen and heard” and “looked upon” and was “touched”, the “Son of God” that has come “and has given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ.”

    Amen “THIS IS  THE TRUE GOD, and eternal life”. “Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen”.

    Blessings on all who “believe on this Son of God” for they “have the witness in” themselves, “the witness of God which he has testified of his Son” and have overcome the world. Such “honour the Son as they honour the Father”. Such “walk in truth”, in Jesus Christ, “the way, the truth and the life” and have access to the Father. Such “have known surely that” that Jesus Christ “came out from” the Father, and have believed that the Father did send” him. Such have “believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God” and “does truth” coming “to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God” and is not condemned.

    Those that believe not this record of God have “made him (God) a liar; because (they) believe not the record that God gave of his Son”. Such “honours not the Son” and therefore “honour not the Father which sent him”. The one who “that believes not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God”.

    #864578
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Pilgrim . ….So now you are telling us God is a liar, when he said he is “not a man” or a “son of man”. So I guess we are not to believe anything he says, according to your distorted reasoning right?.  So show us where GOD IS A “LIAR’, and while you are at it show us where he is “a man” or a “son of man”.

    GOD the Father was telling us about how a man lies, and how they needed to repent. You people have a never ending way of manipulating our scriptures.  God the Father does repent of the evil he has planed at times, but he still is not a “man”, nor a “Son of man” as we and Jesus are.   You obvisely not only don’t believe God the Fathers words, but also what Jesus said about him either, when he said this,  God is a Spirit,  and those who worship him, must worship him in spirit and truth.  A spirit is not a “man” nor a “Son of man”.  

    It never ceases to amaze me how you people can minipulate the words of God and Jesus over and over again, In conclusion, you and those like you do not “truly”  believe what  God the Father says,  nor the “anointed”, ” man”  Jesus, either.  If you “truly” believed Jesus, you would believe what he said, that God the Father was the “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD,  but you people don’t accept that at all, then you lie and tell us you believe what Jesus says. but the truth  is you really don’t believe what he or God the Father says at all. 

    My advise to you and people like you  Pilgrim,  is to repent, while you can, lest God the Father deal with your foolishness,  Your on very, very, damgerious ground Pilgrim.  You will truly be held accountable if not repented of, IMO.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

     

    #864579
    Lightenup
    Participant

    @Proclaimer

    LU:

    If the one true God calls the only begotten Son: “God” and “YHVH our Righteousness” then it is so.

    Heb 1, Jeremiah 23:6.

    Proclaimer:

    If Jesus says ‘ye are theos’, then so be it.

    That’s right Proclaimer…now proclaim how many of those called “theos” in the Bible, do we need to know and follow and believe in for eternal life.

    #864580
    Pilgrim
    Participant

    Gene,

    “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again.

    And why behold the mote that is in your brother’s eye, but consider not the beam that is in your own eye? Or how will you say to your brother, Let me pull out the mote out of your eye; and, behold, a beam is in your own eye?

    Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother’s eye”.

    Farewell Gene.

    #864581
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    That’s right Proclaimer…now proclaim how many of those called “theos” in the Bible, do we need to know and follow and believe in for eternal life.

    Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

    The one true God and another which is Jesus Christ.

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