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  • #863961
    GeneBalthrop
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    Jodi…..this is simply an exercise in futility, just as I have said before “unless the Lord build the house, the weary builders build in vain”. 

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #863962
    Jodi
    Participant

    Hi Carmel,

    YHVH would not have made heaven and earth without the purpose of the NEW BIRTH of which He declared from the beginning, where He also declared from the beginning that a MAN would execute that purpose. Jesus the man who was CHRIO (to anoint) made into the Christos (anointed) is that man.

    Carmel, Jesus’s resurrection is our resurrection, he was raised unto eternal life and we are raised unto eternal life. God’s WORD before the world began was eternal life, and God’s Spirit is LIFE because of righteousness. God gives His Spirit and it causes a man to walk in all his ways, if a man is walking in all God’s ways there is no sin and thus no death.

    Jesus appeared, the anointed in the flesh, and preached by God’s command, saying that the flesh profits nothing it is the Spirit that is life, and the words that he spoke he said that they were Spirit and they were life.

    Jesus Christ preached saying that the Spirit was upon him, that he could do nothing of himself.

    Also, the resurrected Jesus appeared to many, giving faith and hope to OUR OWN RESURRECTION into eternal life, such was the WORD OF LIFE that Jesus preached. By his physical resurrection and by his word from God, we know that we are heirs of God and joint heirs with Jesus, why Paul wrote such words down. 

    1 John 1:2 The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us.

    In the beginning was the WORD Eternal Life, and that WORD Eternal Life was WITH the Father before the world even began, and that WORD was the Father for it is His Spirit that GIVES LIFE. Just as the WORD of eternal life was with the Father in the beginning, so also was the WORD of Jesus Christ with the Father from the beginning, for there is NO eternal life without the man who would execute God’s purpose of eternal life. All things were created by reason of and for Jesus the Christ, the first begotten of the dead, without him nothing would have been made that was made. What would be the point of making life to just what it become eternally dead?

    YHVH made all things knowing full well that the son of David was going to sit on an eternal throne according to the flesh being a Son of God according to the Spirit, as a firstborn of many, for God did not make earth in vain, He made it to be inhabited by humans who eternally dwell in His image.

    #863963
    carmel
    Participant

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    #863964
    Jodi
    Participant

    Hi Carmel!

    #863968
    Pilgrim
    Participant

    Oh dear Gene,

    I hear the subtil serpent’s voice in your replies “For God does know that in the day you eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and you shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”  (Genesis 3:5). You, like Eve, are deceived into thinking that that tree was “a tree to be desired to make one wise”.

    How dreadful is your argument “Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just”.

    Beware Gene, Of your caustic accusatory tongue and blindness.  For “Every plant, which my heavenly Father has not planted, shall be rooted up.”  (Matthew 15:13). JESUS warns us about people like you “Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.”  (Matthew 15:14).

    Until this day there remains on your heart and mind the same vail as was on Moses face, “untaken away in the reading of the old testament”. Nevertheless “this vail is done away in Christ.”  (2 Corinthians 3:14). So I counsel you to turn to Christ so the vail can be taken away and you can see the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ and know the liberty of the Spirit and be changed into the same image as the Lord, from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit Of the Lord.

    #863973
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Pilgrim…..thanks for the concern, but I believe it pertains to you much more then I or Jodi or others who disagree with your false teachings.  That’s all anyone has to do is just look at what scripture truly says to see through your false assumptions.  You fail to see where scripture say clearly that “after”  after they ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil , their “eyes were opened, and then God said “clearly” “look the man has become as we are “knowing”, good and evil”.  Your very own word acknowledge that you , chose not to truly believe it, then you turn to accuse me of being a devil, You truly fill up the cup of the pharisees your brothers.  No matter how clear we “quote” clearly written scriptures , you chose to not believe them, then you turn on us who show them to you, and begin to accuse us, that is exactly what the pharisees in the time of Jesus our Lord did.  We continue to teach what is “clearly written” you people choose to not believ it, even things what Jesus himself said, scripture after scripture , line upon line, and you still ignore them, as if there is a great blindness covering your eyes, which only prove true the words of God, “because they received not the love of the truth, “GOD”, shall send unto them a SPIRIT OF DELUSION, in order for them to believe a “LIE”. 2THS2.   

    Remember this , “five were wise and five were foolish”.  You need to be sure you are standing in the truth or in the end there will be a big dissapointment.  Being in the “wide”way that leads to destruction,  that the “many” are in, is dangerous.   My advice to you is to “seek the “narrow” way that leads to life” . 

    Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene

     

     

    #863986
    Pilgrim
    Participant

    Jodi,

    In your post starting “Abraham spoke to Yah but not literally face to face. ”, you made the following comment later on under “Back to John 3“ in the paragraph “In John 3 Jesus says a man must be born again of water and of the Spiri to see God’s kingdom, <span style=”color: #ff9900;”>we then hear prophecy that he is the only MAN who ascended to heaven</span>, we then read we need to believe on him who was sent into the world, we then read that he who was SENT speaks the word of God for he received the Spirit not by measure.“

    In the highlighted text above I presume you are referring to John 3:13, is that correct?

    #863993
    Jodi
    Participant

    Hi Pilgrim,

    Yes I was speaking of John 3:13

    John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? 13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

    As Jesus is speaking of himself specifically as a Son of man who came down from heaven such is how I am going to base my understanding.

    Right after verse 13 he speaks prophecy of his crucifixion in verse 14, and I know that Jesus gives prophecy that the Son of Man is going to ascend to heaven and sit at God’s right hand. Likewise, Jesus’s prophecy is that the Son of Man is going to descend from heaven in his Father’s glory. Seems pretty clear to me that Jesus is indeed speaking prophecy in verse 13. 

    I wouldn’t focus on the word “came” down, as “came” is not in the original text. All scriptures that have the words “come down” or “came down” there is not text for “came” or “come”.

    We do see elsewhere “come” and “came” as actual existing words in the original text,

    Erchomai  –  cometh, coming, come, came

    Paraginomai – coming, come, came

     

     

     

    #863999
    Pilgrim
    Participant

    Hi Jodi,

    Three questions on John 3 again.

    1. Are you aware that in the Greek the phrase “that came down” is katabainō meaning “descend” and is used 80 times in the New Testament in a consistent way e.g. the same word is used in all the gospels where it speaks of the Spirit descending like a dove (e.g. Matthew 3:16, John 1:33) and in the verses describing them descending from the mount of transfiguration (Matthew 17:9, Mark 9:9), again where the angel of the Lord descended and rolled back the stone (Matthew 28:2) and in John 6:33-58 the bread of God that descended, also in Ephesians 4:9-10 of the Lord descending into the lower parts of the earth and in 1 Thess 4:16 describing the Lord’s return descending from heaven and right throughout Revelation talking of descending angels and especially of New Jerusalem descending from heaven?

    2. What do you believe it means in John 3:13 when Jesus says at the time of his speaking and after talking of the ascension that the Son of Man is “in heaven”?

    3. Is the interpretation you gave on John 3:13 also what you think John the Baptist is saying in John 3:31?

    #864000
    carmel
    Participant

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    #864001
    carmel
    Participant

    John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him: Amen, amen, I say to thee,

    unless a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

    THE ABOVE IS A REFERENCE TO JESUS ON HIS RESURRECTION.

    JESUS RESURRECTED EMBODIED IN

    THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE. 

    JESUS’BODY WAS GIVEN AS A RANSOM ON THE CROSS, FOR THE SAKE OF THE FATHER, THE TRUTH, AND REDEMPTION OF ALL THOSE LOST BY THE LIES OF SATAN PROCLAIMING HIMSELF EQUALITY WITH GOD, AND THEIR CREATOR. Isaiah 14:12-14.

    “THE WORD” JESUS’HUMAN NATURE  IMMEDIATELY ON HIS DEATH, GLORIFIED HIS FLESH BODY, BECAME SPIRIT AND INTEGRATED AS ONE SUBSTANCE WITH THE HOLY GHOST, JESUS’ THE DIVINE NATURE

    TWO IN ONE FLESH IN

    JESUS CHRIST MANIFESTED HIMSELF IN FLESH

    GODMAN IN HELLFIRE; MOSES BURNING BUSH WITHOUT BEING CONSUMED! 

    Thus once THE TRUTH WAS  revealed to Satan, that Jesus was DIVINE, and was KILLED BY MISTAKE:

    1Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew.

    For if they had known it, they would never have crucified

    the Lord of glory.

    Jesus demanded back His life, and the only way to receive back His life was that since TRUTH WAS REVEALED AND IT WAS ACCEPTED BY SATAN THAT “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man,  DIVINE,  WAS KILLED, HE  ALSO

    PRE-EXISTED AS A SPIRIT,  AND WAS 

    SLAIN LIKE A LAMB FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD ENGRAFTED  IN THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF THE WORLD,

    ETERNAL LIFE, IN SATAN HIMSELF, AND OBVIOUS  IN

    ALL SOULS, SPIRITUALLY DEAD BOTH IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH. 

    JESUS CHRIST WAS GIVEN ALL RIGHTS IN HELL TO PREACH HIS GOSPEL AND

    ALL THOSE SOULS WHO ACCEPT HIS GOSPEL WOULD BE SAVED AND RELEASED FROM HELL!

    Asserted by Jesus in John 5:25Amen, amen, I say unto you, that the hour cometh, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of

    THE SON OF GOD:

    and they that hear shall live. 26For as the Father hath life in himself, so he hath given to the Son also to have life in himself. 27And he hath given him power to do judgment, because he is

    THE SON OF MAN. 

    FROM THE OTHER HAND ALL THOSE

    SOULS STILL LIVING ON EARTH, LIKEWISE ONCE THEY ACCEPT JESUS AS THEIR SAVIOUR AND BAPTIZED IN JESUS’ NAME,

    IN WATER AND THE HOLY GHOST JOHN3:5 WOULD AUTOMATICALLY BE ALSO FREE FROM SATAN’S GRIP,  AND BECOME JESUS’PROPERTY.

    IN THE FLESH ONCE THEY LIVE ON EARTH

    SPIRITUALLY  IN CHRIST, NOT SUBJECT TO THE EX SATANIC FLESH. THUS SINCE JESUS’ BODY

    THE SON OF MAN WAS GLORIFIED IN

    JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD,

    GODMAN,  JESUS CHRIST,

    THE LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT, WAS IN THE POSITION TO GIVE LIFE TO HIMSELF IN JESUS DEAD BODY

    IN EXCHANGE FOR HUMANITY, 

    THE MAN BORN AGAIN John3:3 BY HIS OWN SPIRIT,

    “THE WORD” Jesus, THE SON OF MAN, ORIGINALLY SLAIN LIKE ALAMB….., Rev 13:8  IN

    ALL SOULS, 

    BUT NO MORE SLAIN ALIVE ON JESUS’DEATH!

    NOW COMES THE HIDDEN TRUTH WHICH WAS REVEALED TO SATAN IN HELL AS SOON AS JESUS CHRIST PREACHED HIS GOSPEL!

    JESUS STARTED PREACHING, AND SATAN WAS STILL SCEPTIC WHO JESUS, THE SON OF MAN, DEAD IN HIS TOMB WAS, HE WAS NOT QUITE SURE IF

    THE SON OF MAN  GLORIFIED IN JESUS CHRIST,

    THE SON OF GOD IN HELL, WAS THE SAME WHO WAS ALSO DEAD IN FLESH STILL IN HIS TOMB, THUS AS SOON AS HE OPENED HIS MOUTH

    ALL SOULS IN HELL

    RECOGNIZED  JESUS’ VOICE  AND SHOUTED

    JESUS SON OF DAVID HAVE MERCY ON US.

    Mentioned by Jesus in Matthew 9:13 Go then and learn what this meaneth,

    I will have mercy and not sacrifice. For I am not come to call the just, but sinners.

    THEY RECOGNIZED JESUS’ VOICE AS A SPIRIT, WITHIN THEM,

    A SPIRIT WHO HAS BEEN TALKING TO THEM SINCE LUCIFER’S REBELLION. Well mentioned by Jesus in

    John 8:28 Jesus therefore said to them: (DEVILS IN FLESH) When you shall have lifted up, the Son of man, ( GLORIFIED ON HIS DEATH IN JESUS CHRIST, PREACHING HIS GOSPEL)  then shall you ( AS DEVILS IN HELL)  know that

    I AM HE….. (WHO SPOKE IN YOU FOR NO USE WHEN YOU REBELLED) 

    9Nicodemus answered and said to him: How can these things be done? 10Jesus answered and said to him: Art thou a master in Israel, and knowest not these things? 11Amen, amen, I say to thee that we speak what we know and we testify what we have seen: and you receive not our testimony. 12If I have spoken to you earthly things, and you believe not: how will you believe, if I shall speak to you heavenly things?

    (LIKE FOR INSTANCE:)

    13And no man hath ascended into heaven, (ATTENTION JODI)

    BEFORE THE WORLD WAS

    but he that descended from heaven,

    the Son of man  (ALREADY IN FLESH BEFORE THE WORLD WAS  AND )

    who is (RIGHT EVEN NOW ALSO IN FLESH)  in heaven.

    Philippians 2:5For let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:(BEFORE THE WORLD WAS)

    6Who being in the form of God, (ALREADY IN THE FLESH) thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7But emptied himself, ( FROM HIS GLORY OF JESUS CHRIST) taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men, and in habit found as a man. 8He humbled himself, becoming obedient unto death, even to the death of the cross. 9For which cause, God also hath exalted him and hath given him a name which is above all names: 10That in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth: 11And that every tongue should confess that

    the Lord Jesus Christ

    IS IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER.

    Jodi, “THE WORD” Jesus THE SON OF MAN was made flesh and

    entered our world,

    not for Him, FOR GOD’S SAKE 

    BUT FOR ALL THE LOST!

     

    Peace and love in Jesus Christ

    #864002
    carmel
    Participant

    Hi LU,

    YOU: Hi Carmel,

    You sad

    ADAM Jodi,

    WAS THE SON OF GOD ON HIS CREATION THEN HE REJECTED GOD AND BECAME

    THE SON of god OF THE WORLD:

    SATAN!

    YOU Satan is not the god of this world.

    LU, from our perspective we believe that there’s one LOVING, GOOD, HOLY, ETERNAL God, though still, we don’t know what actually God is.

    ONLY JESUS REVEALED ON EARTH IN HIMSELF,

    IN HIS EMBODIMENT GOD ALMIGHTY!

    Now myself I used LOVING, GOOD, HOLY and ETERNAL to make sure that I am referring to the

    ONE and ONLY UNIQUE GOD ALMIGHTY!

    The above FOUR QUALTIES were used by Jesus Himself in order to make us aware that

    ONLY ONE GOD COULD HAVE THESE FOUR QUALITIES, as He knew that there were other genuine gods in heaven, despite they were creatures: Thus when Paul mentioned Satan and said in

     2Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, ….

    He knew also what was He talking about, plus that Paul was aware of the truth in MORE details then others, CONFIRMED BY PETER, in

    2Peter3:15 And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation: as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you: 16As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood,

    Thus He knew that Satan’s existence and presence ON EARTH, was simply a camouflage, precisely of

    “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man, hidden in Satan as his life source,

    SLAIN LIKE A LAMB FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD,Rev.13:8, and also

     A TREASURE HIDDEN INA FIELD. Matthew 13:44 and many more scriptures which simply depicts

    “THE WORD” JESUS’ MOST ASTOUNDING UNFATHOMABLE TASK AS A

    SPIRIT/MEDIATOR , HIDDEN SEALED IN THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF CREATION John6:27

    SIMPLY TO SUSTAIN ALL ACCORDING TO GOD’S WILL , AS

    GOD ALL BY HIMSELF COULD NOT ACHIEVE  THE PROCESS OF SINFUL AND CURSED HUMAN BEINGS CARRIERS OF SATAN ALL BY HIMSELF.

    SINCE HE WAS:

    THE MOST HOLY, THE MOST GOOD, THE MOST LOVING, AND ETERNAL GOD.

     

    THUS GOD ALL KNOWING BEFORE HE COMMENCED CREATION ESTABLISHED “THE WORD” Jesus the Son of Man to be,

    ETERNAL LIFE ITSELF and also AS

    THE BARRIER, MEDIATOR SPIRIT BETWEEN GOD AND HIS CREATURES ESPECIALLY BETWEEN THE IMPERFECT OR ELSE NONE OF THEM WOULD EXIST.

    AS THE FATHER WOULD DEFINITELY DESTROY IMMEDIATELY ON THE LEAST SPECK OF IMPERFECTION WITHIN THEIR HEART, PRECISELY

    THE ABODE OF “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man as a spirit. BY which spirit HE  HELD ONTO HIM ALL THE EVIL COMMITTED BY ALL CREATURES, SIMPLY TO SERVE THEM, MERE IMPERFECT CREATURES, AND THEN REDEEM THEM AND MADE THEM 

    PERFECT, EVEN BY THEIR OWN WILL!

    EMPOWERED AND ATTACHED TO BY THE HOLY GHOST,  THE SOUL OF GOD, GOD’S ABODE, FROM WHERE THE FATHER

    DID ALL HIS WORK

    BUT AGAIN

    NOT ALL BY HIMSELF AND IN THE SAME TIME ALL BY HIMSELF AS THE

    “THE WORD” JESUS, THE SON OF MAN and THE HOLY GHOST ARE ALSO GOD.

    THUS GOD IN  “THE WORD” IN THIS MOST POWERFUL OUSTANDING UNFATHOMABLE EMBODIMENT, THOUGH A MERE INFINITESIMAL SPIRIT WHICH NO MICROSCOPE COULD BE INVENTED IN ORDER TO BE DETECTED,  

    ABIDED IN THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF CREATION NEVER MIND IN SATAN AND HIS SATANIC WORLD,

    IN FULL LOVING CONTROL!

    THUS Jesus as a spirit simply for the sake of  JUSTICE and TRUTH that HE, “THE WORD” the Son of Man to be, THE FIRST EVER BEGINNING, AS THE PRIMORDIAL LIGHT, LIGHT FROM LIGHT, was the ACTUAL BEGINNING precisely in

    LUCIFER’S HEART, ONE SUBSTANCE AT ALL COSTS, AND AT THE SAME TIME DISTINCT FOR THE SAKE OF 

    FREE WILL OF ALL, AS THE CASE, MAY BE.

     HE SIMPLY SERVED BOTH HIS FATHER , LUCIFER, AND EVENTUALLY THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE,

    GOD’S KINGDOM OF THE SON, THROUGH HIM. UNAWARE OF IT!

    LIGHT SHINES IN DARKNESS, AND DARKNESS COMPREHENDED NOT!

    HE  PREVENTED  HIS LOVING FATHER NOT TO DESTROY LUCIFER IN THE FIRST PLACE, EVEN FROM THE LEAST INTENTION IN HIS HEART TO REBEL, AND AT THE SAM ETIME EMPOWERED LUCIFER TO ACCOMPLISH HIS

    DREAM AS GOD OF THE WORLD, Now ask your self

    WAS SATAN THE GOD OF THE WORLD, SINCE

    WITHIN HIM 

    THE CARRIER OF THE PRIMORDIAL LIGHT, GOD, AS HIS LIFE SOURCE AND ALL, HAD THE

    WHOLE DEITY, ALL IN “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man ?

    TRIUNE GOD  IN HIM? AND  

    FROM THE BEGINNING IN LUCIFER ONWARDS WAS  ACTUALLY  EVERY BEGINNING OF GOD’S WORK , both

    GOOD AND EVIL, since it is in full clarity and it says in John1:3

     WITHOUT HIM WAS MADE NOTHING THAT WAS MADE. Thus since our

    God Almighty could only be:

    MOST LOVING, MOST GOOD, MOST HOLY, AND ETERNAL.

    In order to maintain ALL NEVER MIND SIMPLY

    Satan in existence doing his MOST HORRIBLE and MOST EVIL work  AND AT THE SAME INSTANT GOD ALSO WOULD BE IN FULL CONTROL, EVEN IN ALL THE EVIL CAUSED BY SATAN.

    WHO ELSE WOULD MAKE ALL THESE POSSIBLE FOR GOD IF NOT

    “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man.

    Well depicted in

    Isaiah45:7  I form the light, (HIDDEN IN “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man to be)

    and create darkness, ( BY “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man to be)

    I make peace, (BY “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man to be on the cross) and

     create evil: ( by Satan, through “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man to be, and I in Him)

    I the Lord that do all these things.

    Ok isn’t clear enough  LU, that

    Satan, THE EVIL CREATED BY GOD was simply

    Jesus Christ CAMOUFLAGED AS

    THE GOD OF THIS WORLD.

    ALL IN HIM, ALL BY HIM and ALL FOR HIM

     

    Peace and love in Jesus Christ

    #864005
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Carmel…..if you know what A SPIRIT IS, then you would know what God is, what did Jesus say? God is a Spirit! Now try to understand  what spirit “is” then you should know what God is, correct? Spirits makes up our “cognisities”  there are seven Spirits (cognisities) that make up the mind of God.  These seven spirits go forth from God the Father,  and, they give and are the “life” of all living things they abide in.  

    Therefore it say “if the “Spirit” of him that raised Jesus from the dead , dwell “in” you , “He” (God who is Spirit) who raised christ Jesus from the grave, will also quicken (bring to life) you mortal (dead) body. ” 

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

     

    #864006
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Hi Carmel:

    You said:

    Satan, THE EVIL CREATED BY GOD was simply
    Jesus Christ CAMOUFLAGED AS
    THE GOD OF THIS WORLD.

    ALL IN HIM, ALL BY HIM and ALL FOR HIM

    Carmel, I call that absolute heresy, did you really just call Jesus Christ, “satan?”

     

    #864008
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Jodi,

    5“The days are coming” h — this is the LORD’s declaration —

    “when I will raise up a Righteous Branch of David. i

    He will reign wisely as king

    and administer justice and righteousness in the land. j

    6In His days Judah will be saved,

    and Israel will dwell securely. k

    This is what He will be named:

    Yahweh Our Righteousness.

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    #864010
    Lightenup
    Participant

    t8 said this:

    There is no mention in scripture that God is a club.

    That quote of what t8 said is an example of what the democrats do to Donald Trump’s words. Do you see how he used the word “club” when no one here has used that word. False news starts so easily, t8.

    #864011
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Hi Pilgrim and Berean,

    I know satan is a deceiver and really bad but I don’t think that he is able to blind us to the gospel. Isaiah 6:10

    Isaiah 6

    9And He replied: “Go and tell this people, ‘Be ever hearing, but never understanding; be ever seeing, but never perceiving.’ 10Make the hearts of this people calloused; deafen their ears and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed. 11Then I asked: “How long, O Lord?” And He replied: “Until cities lie in ruins without an inhabitant, until the houses are left unoccupied, and the land is desolate and ravaged,…

    #864012
    Jodi
    Participant

    Hi Carmel.

    YOU:

    Isaiah45:7 I form the light, (HIDDEN IN “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man to be)

    and create darkness, ( BY “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man to be)

    I make peace, (BY “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man to be on the cross) and

    create evil: ( by Satan, through “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man to be, and I in Him)

    ME: Carmel the word translated “evil” is “ra” it means, bad or disagreeable.

    It does not equate to wickedness, wickedness is sin and sin is bad, and it does not agree with God.

    When God sends cursing it is seen as bad, disagreeable to man.

    YHVH brings forth RA as punishment and for instruction unto man, it is done through YHVH’s righteous purpose.

     

     

    #864013
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Jodi says:

    Jesus does not do works in his own name but in His Father’s NAME, and the works that he does are not his works but are YHVH’s works, the very reason why Jesus says that the works that he does he does so in his Father’s NAME.

    However, The disciples did works in Jesus name. Acts 4.

    The works are done in the Father’s name and in Jesus’ name throughout scriptures. Jesus name is called Yahweh our Righteousness. The Father is not our righteousness, btw.

    #864014
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Jodi says:

    Isaiah 61: 1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because YHVH hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; 2 To proclaim the acceptable year of YHVH, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

    JESUS quotes this passage, he is the anointed of YHVH who Jesus says is our God, his God and my God, his Father and my Father. YHVH IS THE hallowed NAME of our heavenly Father, and Jesus told us to pray to the Father in His hallowed name.

    I say:

    So, during Isaiah’s time back before Jesus was born, we see the ONE who will be called YHVH our Righteousness, telling about something YHVH has done, not will do but “hath” done and that is YHVH “hath anointed me” to…

    That confirms the presence of the ONE whose name will be called YHVH our Righteousness way before he came as the babe born of Mary.

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