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Quote (jammin @ Mar. 27 2013,09:59) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 22 2013,13:39) I answered your first question. Now answer mine BEFORE you ask me another, okay? Here it is again: I and my father are “truly human” because we both belong to the SPECIES known as “mankind”.
Are Jesus and his Father “truly God” because they both belong to the SPECIES known as “Godkind”? YES or NO?
you did not answer mine boy
ill repeati still have a question for you
you do believe that you and your father are both human.
my next question is do you believe that your nature is HUMAN?
im talking about your nature and your father's nature
JaminYou and I are human ,in nature and I am glad you are NOT related to me.
jammin,
I answered your first question. Now answer MY first question BEFORE you ask me another, okay?
Here it is again: I and my father are “truly human” because we both belong to the SPECIES known as “mankind”.
Are Jesus and his Father “truly God” because they both belong to the SPECIES known as “Godkind”? YES or NO?
MIke…….Wrong………Jesus is of the HUman Kind, and has recieved God's Sprit in him Making him a son of the God Kind, Just as all human kind can have also. Also a person can have the Sprit of a Devil Kind , makeing him a son of the devil kind. Mike the problem is you not understanding what a SPIRIT “IS”> IMO
peace and love to you and yours Mike……………………………………….gene
Gene wrote:[/quote]
Quote .Jesus is of the HUman Kind, and has recieved God's Sprit in him Gene,
Wrong!
Jesus is God's own spirit!
Jesus is the word made flesh!
Jesus is the Godhead in flesh body!
Jesus is Almighty God glorified
John 13:31 When he therefore was gone out, Jesus said: Now is the Son of man glorified and
GOD IS GLORIFIED IN HIM
32If God be glorified in him,
GOD WILL ALSO GLORIFY HIM IN HIMSELF;
and immediately will he glorify him
THE ABOVE IS AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL,AND IT NEEDS SOME HELL OF A TWISTING TO DEFINE IT THAT :
JESUS IS NOT GLORIFIED IN GOD ( SPIRIT)
AND
GOD IS NOT GLORIFIED IN JESUS ( FLESH)
THEREFORE BOTH UNITED AS ONE
Matthew 19:4 Who answering, said to them: Have ye not read, that he who made man from the beginning, Made them male and female? (SOUL AND FLESH)And he said: 5For this cause shall a man( THE SON) leave father (ALMIGHTY TO CREATE ALL)and mother, (MARY, AFTER CREATED ALL)and shall cleave to his wife,(THE MYSTICAL BODY OF THE CHURCH) and they two (THE FATHER AND THE SON)shall be in one flesh.(BODY) 6Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put asunder.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2013,16:16) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 27 2013,09:59) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 22 2013,13:39) I answered your first question. Now answer mine BEFORE you ask me another, okay? Here it is again: I and my father are “truly human” because we both belong to the SPECIES known as “mankind”.
Are Jesus and his Father “truly God” because they both belong to the SPECIES known as “Godkind”? YES or NO?
you did not answer mine boy
ill repeati still have a question for you
you do believe that you and your father are both human.
my next question is do you believe that your nature is HUMAN?
im talking about your nature and your father's nature
JaminYou and I are human ,in nature and I am glad you are NOT related to me.
good you now know that WE have the same NATURE, HUMANyou must also accept that christ and his father have the same nature, God.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 29 2013,14:31) jammin, I answered your first question. Now answer MY first question BEFORE you ask me another, okay?
Here it is again: I and my father are “truly human” because we both belong to the SPECIES known as “mankind”.
Are Jesus and his Father “truly God” because they both belong to the SPECIES known as “Godkind”? YES or NO?
you did not answer mine
ill repeat
do you agree that WE HAVE THE SAME NATURE, HUMAN?
yes or no?just answer yes or no
jammin,
Here are the possible answers to my question:
1. Yes Mike, God is a SPECIES, of which the Father and Son are both members.
2. No Mike, God is not a SPECIES, and therefore my attempt to compare the nature of humans, who ARE all members of the same species, with God, who is a PERSON and NOT a species, is a big waste of time that proves nothing.
Which answer do you choose, jammin?
Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2013,10:50) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2013,16:16) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 27 2013,09:59) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 22 2013,13:39) I answered your first question. Now answer mine BEFORE you ask me another, okay? Here it is again: I and my father are “truly human” because we both belong to the SPECIES known as “mankind”.
Are Jesus and his Father “truly God” because they both belong to the SPECIES known as “Godkind”? YES or NO?
you did not answer mine boy
ill repeati still have a question for you
you do believe that you and your father are both human.
my next question is do you believe that your nature is HUMAN?
im talking about your nature and your father's nature
JaminYou and I are human ,in nature and I am glad you are NOT related to me.
good you now know that WE have the same NATURE, HUMANyou must also accept that christ and his father have the same nature, God.
jaminand now that you know what it means that we are of the same nature but we are not the same persons ,
so now you can see how God the father and god the son being of the same nature are not the same beings,
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2013,03:58) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2013,10:50) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2013,16:16) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 27 2013,09:59) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 22 2013,13:39) I answered your first question. Now answer mine BEFORE you ask me another, okay? Here it is again: I and my father are “truly human” because we both belong to the SPECIES known as “mankind”.
Are Jesus and his Father “truly God” because they both belong to the SPECIES known as “Godkind”? YES or NO?
you did not answer mine boy
ill repeati still have a question for you
you do believe that you and your father are both human.
my next question is do you believe that your nature is HUMAN?
im talking about your nature and your father's nature
JaminYou and I are human ,in nature and I am glad you are NOT related to me.
good you now know that WE have the same NATURE, HUMANyou must also accept that christ and his father have the same nature, God.
jaminand now that you know what it means that we are of the same nature but we are not the same persons ,
so now you can see how God the father and god the son being of the same nature are not the same beings,
of course we are not the same person but we are both HumanChrist and his father are not the same person but they are both God by nature.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 31 2013,03:50) jammin, Here are the possible answers to my question:
1. Yes Mike, God is a SPECIES, of which the Father and Son are both members.
2. No Mike, God is not a SPECIES, and therefore my attempt to compare the nature of humans, who ARE all members of the same species, with God, who is a PERSON and NOT a species, is a big waste of time that proves nothing.
Which answer do you choose, jammin?
you did not answer mine
ill repeat
do you agree that WE HAVE THE SAME NATURE, HUMAN?
yes or no?just answer yes or no
after you answer mine, ill answer yours
Quote (jammin @ Mar. 31 2013,19:28) do you agree that WE HAVE THE SAME NATURE, HUMAN? after you answer mine, ill answer yours
I'll believe it when I see it.Here is my answer. I must write it in a way that you can't clip it and say, “thanks for your answer”. Hmmm…………….
All members of the SPECIES known as “humankind” share a “human” nature.
Now here is my question:
Do all members of the SPECIES known as “God” share a “God” nature? YES or NO?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2013,12:37) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 31 2013,19:28) do you agree that WE HAVE THE SAME NATURE, HUMAN? after you answer mine, ill answer yours
I'll believe it when I see it.Here is my answer. I must write it in a way that you can't clip it and say, “thanks for your answer”. Hmmm…………….
All members of the SPECIES known as “humankind” share a “human” nature.
Now here is my question:
Do all members of the SPECIES known as “God” share a “God” nature? YES or NO?
Mike…….If I took a cup of water from a lake and gave it to you to drink, tell me is it any different then the water in the lake , no it is the “exact.” Same, right?, and ounce you drank it , that exact same water is “in” you. So it is with spirit .God said I shall “pour” forth of my spirit upon ” all” flesh , that is the spirit of God anointing that person he pours it on. We become anointed by that pouring forth from YAHWEH of that Spirit , and he then abides “in” us, just as he abided “in” Jesus. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene
Quote (jammin @ April 01 2013,07:28) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2013,03:58) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2013,10:50) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2013,16:16) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 27 2013,09:59) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 22 2013,13:39) I answered your first question. Now answer mine BEFORE you ask me another, okay? Here it is again: I and my father are “truly human” because we both belong to the SPECIES known as “mankind”.
Are Jesus and his Father “truly God” because they both belong to the SPECIES known as “Godkind”? YES or NO?
you did not answer mine boy
ill repeati still have a question for you
you do believe that you and your father are both human.
my next question is do you believe that your nature is HUMAN?
im talking about your nature and your father's nature
JaminYou and I are human ,in nature and I am glad you are NOT related to me.
good you now know that WE have the same NATURE, HUMANyou must also accept that christ and his father have the same nature, God.
jaminand now that you know what it means that we are of the same nature but we are not the same persons ,
so now you can see how God the father and god the son being of the same nature are not the same beings,
of course we are not the same person but we are both HumanChrist and his father are not the same person but they are both God by nature.
JaminRight,but one his the supreme God that is not created and the other one a lesser god that as been created out of the direct powers of the first one ,and for those reasons he his the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD ALMIGHTY ,
Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2013,12:00) Quote (jammin @ April 01 2013,07:28) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2013,03:58) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2013,10:50) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2013,16:16) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 27 2013,09:59) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 22 2013,13:39) I answered your first question. Now answer mine BEFORE you ask me another, okay? Here it is again: I and my father are “truly human” because we both belong to the SPECIES known as “mankind”.
Are Jesus and his Father “truly God” because they both belong to the SPECIES known as “Godkind”? YES or NO?
you did not answer mine boy
ill repeati still have a question for you
you do believe that you and your father are both human.
my next question is do you believe that your nature is HUMAN?
im talking about your nature and your father's nature
JaminYou and I are human ,in nature and I am glad you are NOT related to me.
good you now know that WE have the same NATURE, HUMANyou must also accept that christ and his father have the same nature, God.
jaminand now that you know what it means that we are of the same nature but we are not the same persons ,
so now you can see how God the father and god the son being of the same nature are not the same beings,
of course we are not the same person but we are both HumanChrist and his father are not the same person but they are both God by nature.
JaminRight,but one his the supreme God that is not created and the other one a lesser god that as been created out of the direct powers of the first one ,and for those reasons he his the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD ALMIGHTY ,
nice to know that you are accepting the truth that we are both HUMAN by nature.but you do not want to accept the truth that Christ has the same nature just like his father. he is God by nature.
you cant read in the bible that christ is a lesser god. only that fake NWT says he is god but ALL OF THE VERSIONS SAY HE IS GOD.
do you understand that?
ill repeat
ONLY THAT FAKE NWT SAYS CHRIST IS god.all versions say christ is God and not god.
so stop dreaming boy.
believe what is truly written in the bible.
Christ has the same nature just like his father. he is God by nature.
he is not created.
col 1.16 talk about supremacy of christ
you should read the context well before making conclusionsQuote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2013,12:37) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 31 2013,19:28) do you agree that WE HAVE THE SAME NATURE, HUMAN? after you answer mine, ill answer yours
I'll believe it when I see it.Here is my answer. I must write it in a way that you can't clip it and say, “thanks for your answer”. Hmmm…………….
All members of the SPECIES known as “humankind” share a “human” nature.
Now here is my question:
Do all members of the SPECIES known as “God” share a “God” nature? YES or NO?
the term species came from human.i cant read in the bible that God is a species.
so im telling to you what is written in the bible.
i can read word for word that Christ and his father have the same nature and that is nature God.
they are both God by nature,.
read jn 1.1
phil 2.6
and many more.
understand the contxt well before making conclusions.
do not read your fake NWT because this will lead you to confusionQuote (jammin @ April 03 2013,15:38) Quote (terraricca @ April 02 2013,12:00) Quote (jammin @ April 01 2013,07:28) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 31 2013,03:58) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 30 2013,10:50) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 27 2013,16:16) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 27 2013,09:59) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 22 2013,13:39) I answered your first question. Now answer mine BEFORE you ask me another, okay? Here it is again: I and my father are “truly human” because we both belong to the SPECIES known as “mankind”.
Are Jesus and his Father “truly God” because they both belong to the SPECIES known as “Godkind”? YES or NO?
you did not answer mine boy
ill repeati still have a question for you
you do believe that you and your father are both human.
my next question is do you believe that your nature is HUMAN?
im talking about your nature and your father's nature
JaminYou and I are human ,in nature and I am glad you are NOT related to me.
good you now know that WE have the same NATURE, HUMANyou must also accept that christ and his father have the same nature, God.
jaminand now that you know what it means that we are of the same nature but we are not the same persons ,
so now you can see how God the father and god the son being of the same nature are not the same beings,
of course we are not the same person but we are both HumanChrist and his father are not the same person but they are both God by nature.
JaminRight,but one his the supreme God that is not created and the other one a lesser god that as been created out of the direct powers of the first one ,and for those reasons he his the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD ALMIGHTY ,
nice to know that you are accepting the truth that we are both HUMAN by nature.but you do not want to accept the truth that Christ has the same nature just like his father. he is God by nature.
you cant read in the bible that christ is a lesser god. only that fake NWT says he is god but ALL OF THE VERSIONS SAY HE IS GOD.
do you understand that?
ill repeat
ONLY THAT FAKE NWT SAYS CHRIST IS god.all versions say christ is God and not god.
so stop dreaming boy.
believe what is truly written in the bible.
Christ has the same nature just like his father. he is God by nature.
he is not created.
col 1.16 talk about supremacy of christ
you should read the context well before making conclusions
JaminBut I have accepted that Christ as the same nature than his father and so he his a god but not his father ,how could a son be his own father ,even if they have the same nature,
We have already establish that we have the same nature but we are not the same people ,you have accepted this and now rejected ,???
Quote (jammin @ April 03 2013,03:40) so im telling to you what is written in the bible.
i can read word for word that Christ and his father have the same nature and that is nature God.
Where can you read in the Bible that “God” is a nature?Having the nature OF “God” is not the same as saying “God” IS a “nature”.
God is a person, jammin. He (not “they”) is a being. “God” is the word used to describe the PERSON who created all things. It is never used in scripture to define a “nature”.
jammin,
I worship the God OF Jesus as my God, since Jesus said that our God was also his God.
You worship the God of Jesus PLUS other “persons”.
Which one of us is aligned with what Jesus actually taught?
Quote (jammin @ April 03 2013,23:38) nice to know that you are accepting the truth that we are both HUMAN by nature. but you do not want to accept the truth that Christ has the same nature just like his father. he is God by nature.
you cant read in the bible that christ is a lesser god. only that fake NWT says he is god but ALL OF THE VERSIONS SAY HE IS GOD.
do you understand that?
ill repeat
ONLY THAT FAKE NWT SAYS CHRIST IS god.
You are barking up the wrong tree.Although he existed in the form of God…
That is not meant to be interpreted as, “although he existed as God”.
Similarly, we can say that Jesus existed in the form of man/adam. But we cannot say that he was Adam, Eve's husband. Rather that he partook of Adam's form, that is flesh.
Form and identity are not to be confused.
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