1 John 5.20 – Christ is not the true God?

Edj,

Those lineages are only for the flesh, they are not proper normal lineages they are there only to make us aware that Jesus mother was Mary,and also who MARY was. But as Jesus' lineage, as such there isn't any, since there's no carnal Father.

Therefore the only Jesus' lineage there is, is of GOD, through the Holy Spirit, therefore ETERNAL.

Now answer is Jesus lineage ETERNAL ??

Peace and love in Jesus

Hi Charles,

I answered your query concerning Jesus' lineage?
What specifically do you want to know now?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Jammin,

What about Christ's mother?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

J 42,

WITH EVERY RESPECT: Completely wrong I’m afraid.

You simply ignored the fact that Jesus mission was firs
t and foremost SPIRITUAL, and all carnal healings, or deeds, by Jesus were only to achieve spiritual DEEDS through them more then anything else. This to prove to Satan that good is superior to evil, and although MATTER IN THAT MOMENT IN TIME, WAS evil since it belonged to Satan, God through Jesus, GOD’S MATTER,  Would still accomplishes spiritual deeds. LIGHT SHINES THROUGH DARKNESS,AND DARKNESS COMPREHENDED NOT.In the entire gospels there is not a single event which was carnal only. In fact in Nazareth Jesus couldn’t perform miracles (SPIRITUAL DEEDS) since they REJECTED HIM, So he couldn’t even simply forgive their sins, AND LEFT.

Mark 6:5And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. 6And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.

In the miracle of the bread, He fed them more SPIRITUAL food, then CARNAL. The filling of the bellies was over and done with, in the MANNA of the OT. It was Jesus turn then to supply the spiritual bread.  Jesus made it clear that He Himself is the real bread which came down from heaven, DIRECT from the FATHER.  The fact that the bread was through a miracle (DIRECT FROM THE FATHER) , is more then enough to make us aware that the bread was  A SPIRITUAL DEED. This is emphasized in those 12 baskets leftover which  they collected. So, It was not just BREAD ALONE for the BELLIES from that moment in time onwards, but more spiritual bread for the soul. This is the beauty of God, for the simple reason, that SATAN WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT SINCE HUMANS ARE MATTER,AND  LOVE EATING,MORE THEN ANYTHING ELSE, GOD through Jesus supplied them bread which nourishes both the soul, and the body.

If you are under the impression that Jesus did the miracle to fill their bellies, with every respect, you are still a child in this matter and need MILK  NOT MEAT. Jesus, never came from heaven just to fill peoples’ bellies, or do anything similar for the body. Generally speaking, Jesus was NEVER interested in feeding the body MORE THEN FEEDING THE SOUL, the substance of his own spirit, and the MAIN reason  He died for. It is the spirit which gives life, the flesh (stomach) counts for nothing, and they received spiritual bread for their souls, and satisfied also their bellies more then usual.

Matthew 10: 28 And fear ye not them that kill the BODY, and are not able to kill the SOUL: but rather fear him that can destroy both soul and body in hell.

It seems you never read the above scripture!! So now you have no doubt that Jesus was never interested in the body,more then the soul.
So why according to you, He should do such miracle for the bellies only???

Jesus to prove that the flesh counts for nothing, He massacred His body, died on the cross, and  He won both the SOUL ( as the second ADAM) and  also the  FLESH BODY(the second EVE in  MARY His flesh substance, created with His own Spirit through nature ) and commenced a new SPIRITUAL creation, God’s kingdom in TRUE CHRISTIANS? on earth, ALTHOUGH Satan’s kingdom.

So if you are not aware of the actual reason that God as man in Jesus came down from heaven, you’d better start a new SPIRITUAL DIET .

AS TRUE CHRISTHIANS? WE ARE AT WAR ALL THE TIME IN SATAN’S OWN PROPERTY. NOT WITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT WE WERE TOTALLY HIS.

So Jesus, although He replaced Satan’s spirit from our entire creation, and recreated us spiritually, He never left us on our own struggling incessantly without any spiritual support. He said Himself that He will never leave us alone in this non stop war, for the simple reason  that we are useless on our own, and not capable enough to achieve the least spiritual deed in this evil earth, especially today more then ever, since  NOTHING IS SIN, never mind perfection. So He made it MUCH MORE  possible for us through endless rivers of graces, which most of them we are not being aware of.

ACQUIRED THROUGH THE LEAST SPIRITUAL DEED ACCOMPLISHED,

EVEN GIVING SOMEONE A GLASS OF WATER.

Matthew 10:42And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.

NOTICE: ONLY IN THE NAME OF A DISCIPLE.

SO I WONDER WHAT WOULD ONE RECEIVE IF WE DO  GOOD SPIRITUAL DEED IN THE NAME OF  JESUS CHRIST, THE WORK OF GOD .

THE LABOUR FOR THE EVERLASTING FOOD. THE WORK OF GOD IN JESUS BELIEFE, THROUGH CHARITY IN EVERY SENSE,AND IN WHATEVER GOOD WE DO IN LOVE. Without love, SINCE GOD IS LOVE ITSELF, we would simply destroy the spiritual deed acquired if we would have done it in LOVE, and faith in Jesus, THE WORK OF GOD. Through which we would have received graces upon graces a fundamental element that Jesus died for.

Now reflect  hereunder, whether Jesus was concerned more about the SPIRITUAL food for the SOUL then about the CARNAL FOOD for the BODY!

Matthew 6:25 And for raiment why are you solicitous? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they labour not, neither do they spin. 29 But I say to you, that NOT EVEN SOLOMON  in all his glory was arrayed( dressed) as one of these.

Did Jesus really consider Solomon’s clothing, which definitely without a doubt were extravagant?? DEFINITELY NOT, He CONSIDERRED THE STATE OF HIS SOUL WHICH WAS OCCUPIED(DRESSED) BY SATAN’S SPIRIT,WHICH EVENTUALY TOOK HIM TO HELL.  

31 Be not SOLICITOUS therefore, saying, what shall we EAT:( SPIRITUAL FOOD) or what shall we DRINK, (SPIRITUAL DRINK)or wherewith shall we be CLOTHED? (SPIRITUAL CLOTHING) ( THESE ARE  THREE FUNDAMENTAL SPIRITUAL ELEMENTS,WHICH JESUS DIED FOR IN ORDER TO FURNISH US WITH SANCTIFIED GRACES TO NOURISH  OUR SOULS.

33 Seek you therefore FIRST the kingdom of God, and his justice, ALL THESE THINGS shall be added unto you.

FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD.   THE MYSTICAL BODY OF CREATION

Is the kingdom of God CARNAL?? DEFINITELY NOT!!

And His justice SPIRITUAL definitely YES !!  

Which is THE redemption of the SOUL, and the SPIRITUAL LIFE on earth, notwithstanding the fact that Satan is the owner of the world.

WAS HE  WORRIED THEN ABOUT THE BODY??? DEFINITELY NOT!!

SO HE SUPPLIED FREE OF CHARGE !!!

CLOTHING  BY THE HOLY SPIRIT WITHIN US, AND
FOOD, AND DRINK, ALL THROUGH FAITH IN JESUS, AND TO LIVE A SPIRITUAL LIFE BY THE GOSPEL.

THE NOURISHMENTS BOTH FOR THE SOUL TO MATURE IN VIRTUES, AND ALSO TO SPIRITUALIZE THE FLESH BODY, AND BECOME ONE ON THE LAST DAY ACCORDINGLY.

The more the soul controls, and mortifies the lust of the flesh, the more automatically the body would spiritualize itself , and on the last day would unite with the soul accordingly,

Reflect in dept on this scripture now:

psalm 72:16 There shall be an HANDFULL OF CORN in the earth upon the top of the MOUNTAINS ; the FRUIT thereof shall SHAKE like Lebanon: and they of the city shall FLOURISH like grass of the earth.

WAS THE MIRACLE OF THE BREAD FOR THE BELLIES ONLY??

Peace and love in Jesus

Charles

Good post Mike.
Jesus had to die like all of us humans,no difference.
For he was human; flesh,with Gods spirit in him in full.

When jesus was raised from the dead,he was given all authority,and he also will raise us from the dead.(John5:21.22).
And he will be the judge,as he said in John.''the words that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day''.(John12:48). and he is the word.

wakeup.

jammin, you are rapidly ruining what little good reputation you ever had on this site.  You run around calling everyone “boy” and asking the same questions we've already answered before.

But since your memory doesn't seem to be the greatest, he we are one more time:

YES, my father is human, and therefore I am A human – but not the SAME human as my father.

And YES, Christ's Father is God, and therefore, he is A god – but not the SAME god as his Father.

NOW, answer my last question to you. Here it is again:

Are you aware of the fact that most of the translations you quote scripture from have been doctored by Trinitarian human beings who are trying their best to FORCE the scriptures into teaching what they WANT them to teach? In other words, do you KNOW what you're doing, or are you simply oblivious to this fact?

Hi Charles, thanks for being more specific!       …the answer is “Yes”.

Micah 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands
of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel;
whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Mike,

Understanding or not understanding, believing in or not believing in the Trinity is not a hindrance or requirement to salvation.

Sincere believers, such as yourself, tend to over analyse spiritual truth, spiritual reality, to the point of missing it; Jesus was a miraculous person, he was the Son of God incarnate in the person of Jesus of Nazereth. If he was not then it is not because of extra-biblical speculation that has lead some to beleive him to be Eternal and Divine, it was Jesus then who mislead us, that is where the logical conclusion of the anti-pre-existent Son of God argument leaves us; with a temporary man-God in heaven.

Religionist commit a tragic disaster when the unknowlinlg dumb things down because they don't understand them at the expense of the profound truth.

I understand the concept of Jesus “Christ Michael” as an eternal Son, inseparably unified in divinity with the spirit Father, as co-creator of this world, but I don't really claim to grasp the personification of the Father in his divine Sons.

It is because Jesus was a duel origin being, at times speaking as a human, subject to the will of the Father, and at other times by divine rite, he appears to contradict himself.

If Jesus was in fact a divine Son (indistinguishably unified in Oneness with the Father) and he incarnate for the purpose of acquiring unquestioned authority and power of his own co-creation, then it is entirely conceivable for him to relinquish his human form at death (it is finished) and return in a new form of his own making (you act as if you've seen a ghost).

NOTICE, Lazerus was resurrected in his original burial clothes, Jesus' burial cloths remain in the tomb, he is now adorned in white clothing, tells Mary not to touch him, he now appears and disappears at will, passes through walls. That's just not the original body of Jesus.

[ btw, Jesus never defined the meaning of the death on the cross, however the theology of the Pagan's who adopted evolving Christianity already had a concept of a sacrificed savoir]

The miraculous, incarnate human person of Jesus died just like we all die, only he returned to the eternal glory he had at the right hand of the Father, we are just beginning, we are finite.

The reason given by Jesus for resurrecting himself from the dead was to prove his authority as it had been questioned. [Jesus had already instructed the apostles NOT to tell the world who he was until he left]

Caino

colter

were is this in scriptures you what you believe must be the truth and not Gods truth but your s the most liberal one ,were lies and some truth seems to mingle ,the gray line like some call it ,

what you are trying to say is ;that you have it and all others do not right ,:D this is why you can not stand the scriptures they always remind you that their is a truth of God ,this must be frustrating