1 John 5.20 – Christ is not the true God?

So that's it, jammin? You apparently CAN'T show me any mention of a “family tree” in the Hebrew text, since none exists.

And the part you quoted from Gill wasn't even the part of the verse that speaks of the ORIGINS of the one Jehovah will send.

But that's okay. The rest of us here can see that you can't defend your doctored translations. (Btw, calling people “boy”, and telling to “study hard” is not a defense of your position. Nor is quoting doctored Bibles and saying “that's what it says”, when the actual Hebrew and Greek texts say nothing of the sort.)

j

this does not answer my question

In my faith life, based on the Urantia revelation by angels who were then present on earth when Jesus was here, we have this relevant quote directed at you who keep hacking each other to death:

The authority of truth is the very spirit that indwells its living manifestations, and not the dead words of the less illuminated and supposedly inspired men of another generation. And even if these holy men of old lived inspired and spirit-filled lives, that does not mean that their words were similarly spiritually inspired. Today we make no record of the teachings of this gospel of the kingdom lest, when I have gone, you speedily become divided up into sundry groups of truth contenders as a result of the diversity of your interpretation of my teachings. For this generation it is best that we live these truths while we shun the making of records.

*Is the above true? Did Jesus say that?

*Is the above true even if Jesus didn't say it?

*Were the teachings of Jesus so diverse that different schools of thought could be derived from them, dividing the kingdom of believers against Jesus' expressed wishes and direct warnings?

Ironically, the records that you guys argue over are a retelling of the events years after Jesus left as the authors understood him. You have divided opinions about someone else’s opinion…….that’s my opinion.

Edj,

Is it possible for a woman to become conceived without seed??

Definitely not.

If the seed came from the Father through the Holy Spirit, is the seed eternal???

Definitely yes.

So if the origin of the seed is ETERNAL,and this seed conseived Mary,

HOW CAN ONE DENY THAT THE FETUS DID NOT ORIGINATED FROM ETERNITY??

THE JEWS NEVER CALCULATED THE WOMAN FOR THE LINEAGE,AND MARY IS NOT CONSIDERRED THE PROOF OF JESUS' ORIGIN.

SO DO NOT INVOLVE THE ORIGIN OF JESUS THROUGH MARY'S FLESH. SHE WAS ONLY THE MATTER,AND IT IS THE SPIRIT WHICH GIVES LIFE ,WHICH IS THE SEED OF THE FATHER,THE FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING.

SO BACK TO YOU ANSWER

1. Jesus' flesh – no   NOT CALCULATED AS THE ORIGIN, IT IS ONLY THROUGH THE SEED.

2. Jesus' spirit – yes    THE TRUE ORIGIN OF JESUS THEREFORE ETERNAL

3. Jesus' lineage – back to Adam (through Mary) THIS LINEAGE IS NOT JESUS' IT IS MARYS' SO IT IS NOT CALCULATED AS THE ORIGIN OF JESUS SINCE AS I SAID THAT THE ORIGIN IS ONLY THROUGH THE FATHER.

SO JESUS ORIGINAL IS ETERNAL  THE TRUTH

AND THAT IS FINAL

DO NOT KEEP ON STRETCHING TO HIDE THE TRUTH

Peace and love in Jesus the eternal  TRUE  GOD IN FLESH

Charles

charles

is Christ not born from the spirit

and his mother Mary not a surrogate Mother that only supplied the clothing of flesh

Yet here you are, Colter, quoting from the record they said they never made.

Carmel.

Did mary have to change his(baby jesus) nappies and give him her breast milk for food?

wakeup.

Oh.  Those words were supposedly said WHEN Jesus was on earth?  I thought the angels who revealed this Urantia revelation were saying this AS it was being written down.  

My bad.  

But are you saying that Jesus didn't want anything written down to teach us because we might interpret the writings differently?  Don't you suppose spreading the gospel by word of mouth would have distorted the words throughout the generations MUCH, MUCH more than having the ones who actually heard him speak writing them down?  

I remember a game we played in school, where the teacher told one person a sentence, which was then related student to student until we went through the whole class.  The end sentence wasn't anything close to the sentence the teacher told the first kid.    That in mind, how well do you suppose an oral translation of Jesus' time on earth and his teachings would have lasted over thousands of years –  being handed down through millions of people?