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1 John 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
John 17:21-23 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us:
that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that
they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one;
and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.Hi Mike,
Do you mean “God of all righteousness”?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ July 02 2012,10:43) Quote (carmel @ July 01 2012,08:04)
Hi CharlesSorry I took so long to answer. The more I read, the more confused I became in trying to understand your explanation.
Last time I checked, God is not visible to us.
His creation is however.
Everything was made by the Word, and even before the Word became flesh.
So everything that was made, was evident from the beginning that a creator put it there, and we know who that creator is.I appreciate your lengthy explanation, but it is only confusion. The truth is so simple and easy to understand. God is not confusion.
Quote I appreciate your lengthy explanation, but it is only confusion. The truth is so simple and easy to understand. God is not confusion. J42,
Now TO CONFUSE YOU EVEN FURTHER, reflect on the scriptures hereunder.
John 6:26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, and WERE FILLED.
NOTICE: DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, and WERE FILLED.
Jesus made it clear that they followed him only because
THEY DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, SO through consuming the bread
ALSO HE SAID THAT THEY WERE FILLED. Definitely with His Spirit.
Now let’s reflect on another statement by Jesus regarding bread hereunder!
Matthew 4:4 Who answered and said: It is written, Not in bread alone doth man live,(BUT IN THE ENTIRE EOOD) but in every word(SPIRIT) that proceedeth from the mouth of God. (SINCE THE WORD,[JESUS' SPIRIT], OF GOD IS IN THE ENTIRE CREATION
There’s something in common in both scriptures, and definitely is the SPIRITUAL WORK.
In John 6:26 He said you did eat of the loaves In Matthew 4:4 He said:
Not in bread alone doth man live, but in every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God.
So if it is NOT IN BREAD ALONE THAT MAN LIVES, how is it contrary, in the other, and said YOU DID EAT OF THE LOVES,AND WERE FILLED.
So what did really Jesus mean? He seems contradicting Himself, in one he says not in bread alone, and in the other He said because you eat the BREAD. loaves.
Can you see it or not??
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (Ed J @ July 05 2012,02:22) Hi Jammin, You should look to John 17:3 – since 1John 5:20 confuses you.
John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee
the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.1. YHVH – the only true God
2. Jesus Christ – whom you sentGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee
the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.1. YHVH – the only true God
2. Jesus Christ – whom you sentEdj,
to clarify even further:
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee( THE FATHER)
the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.THAT FROM THEN ON THE FATHER WOULD BECOME
THE ONLY TRUE GOD,AND JESUS CHRIST,So GOD THE FATHER IS:
BOTH GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST.BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH.
So if the Father became both GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST for the first time ever, JESUS ALSO BECAME GOD, BOTH IN SPIRIT AND IN FLESH.
SINCE:
John 17:10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them
peace and love in Jesus
Charles
Quote (carmel @ July 06 2012,14:33) Quote (journey42 @ July 02 2012,10:43) Quote (carmel @ July 01 2012,08:04)
Hi CharlesSorry I took so long to answer. The more I read, the more confused I became in trying to understand your explanation.
Last time I checked, God is not visible to us.
His creation is however.
Everything was made by the Word, and even before the Word became flesh.
So everything that was made, was evident from the beginning that a creator put it there, and we know who that creator is.I appreciate your lengthy explanation, but it is only confusion. The truth is so simple and easy to understand. God is not confusion.
Quote I appreciate your lengthy explanation, but it is only confusion. The truth is so simple and easy to understand. God is not confusion. J42,
Now TO CONFUSE YOU EVEN FURTHER, reflect on the scriptures hereunder.
John 6:26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, and WERE FILLED.
NOTICE: DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, and WERE FILLED.
Jesus made it clear that they followed him only because
THEY DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, SO through consuming the bread
ALSO HE SAID THAT THEY WERE FILLED. Definitely with His Spirit.
Now let’s reflect on another statement by Jesus regarding bread hereunder!
Matthew 4:4 Who answered and said: It is written, Not in bread alone doth man live,(BUT IN THE ENTIRE EOOD) but in every word(SPIRIT) that proceedeth from the mouth of God. (SINCE THE WORD,[JESUS' SPIRIT], OF GOD IS IN THE ENTIRE CREATION
There’s something in common in both scriptures, and definitely is the SPIRITUAL WORK.
In John 6:26 He said you did eat of the loaves In Matthew 4:4 He said:
Not in bread alone doth man live, but in every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God.
So if it is NOT IN BREAD ALONE THAT MAN LIVES, how is it contrary, in the other, and said YOU DID EAT OF THE LOVES,AND WERE FILLED.
So what did really Jesus mean? He seems contradicting Himself, in one he says not in bread alone, and in the other He said because you eat the BREAD. loaves.
Can you see it or not??
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
cRO 8:28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
1CO 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.
1CO 15:27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “ All things are put in subjection,” it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.
Quote (Ed J @ July 05 2012,02:22) Hi Jammin, You should look to John 17:3 – since 1John 5:20 confuses you.
John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee
the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.1. YHVH – the only true God
2. Jesus Christ – whom you sentGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
you do not understand that 1 john 17.3
it says that there is only ONE FATHER WHO IS TRULY GOD!
do you know any father who is truly GOD?
i believe that there is ONLY ONE!the father is truly GOD!
but the bible says that the son is TRULY GOD!TRULY MAN has a son who is also TRULY MAN.
GOD has a son. the son is also GOD by nature.
they are truly GOD!study hard boy
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2012,03:49) jammin, is God Almighty the most powerful being who has ever existed? YES or NO?
are you referring to the father or son? bec the bible says that they are both GOD by nature and not god boy. LOLQuote (terraricca @ July 05 2012,03:37) edj it looks that Jammi is like a cat chasing is own tail ,:D
laughing is good. but if you laugh and you do not understand the true meaning of the topic, it means that your brain has no nutritionQuote (jammin @ July 05 2012,18:12) Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2012,03:49) jammin, is God Almighty the most powerful being who has ever existed? YES or NO?
are you referring to the father or son? bec the bible says that they are both GOD by nature and not god boy. LOL
I'm referring to the Father. Please answer the question.Quote (jammin @ July 06 2012,11:11) Quote (Ed J @ July 05 2012,02:22) Hi Jammin, You should look to John 17:3 – since 1John 5:20 confuses you.
John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee
the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.1. YHVH – the only true God
2. Jesus Christ – whom you sentGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
you do not understand that 1 john 17.3
it says that there is only ONE FATHER WHO IS TRULY GOD!
do you know any father who is truly GOD?
i believe that there is ONLY ONE!the father is truly GOD!
but the bible says that the son is TRULY GOD!TRULY MAN has a son who is also TRULY MAN.
GOD has a son. the son is also GOD by nature.
they are truly GOD!study hard boy
Hi Jammin,You keep forgetting that Mary was Jesus' mother.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ July 06 2012,08:32) Quote (carmel @ July 06 2012,14:33) Quote (journey42 @ July 02 2012,10:43) Quote (carmel @ July 01 2012,08:04)
Hi CharlesSorry I took so long to answer. The more I read, the more confused I became in trying to understand your explanation.
Last time I checked, God is not visible to us.
His creation is however.
Everything was made by the Word, and even before the Word became flesh.
So everything that was made, was evident from the beginning that a creator put it there, and we know who that creator is.I appreciate your lengthy explanation, but it is only confusion. The truth is so simple and easy to understand. God is not confusion.
Quote I appreciate your lengthy explanation, but it is only confusion. The truth is so simple and easy to understand. God is not confusion. J42,
Now TO CONFUSE YOU EVEN FURTHER, reflect on the scriptures hereunder.
John 6:26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, and WERE FILLED.
NOTICE: DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, and WERE FILLED.
Jesus made it clear that they followed him only because
THEY DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, SO through consuming the bread
ALSO HE SAID THAT THEY WERE FILLED. Definitely with His Spirit.
Now let’s reflect on another statement by Jesus regarding bread hereunder!
Matthew 4:4 Who answered and said: It is written, Not in bread alone doth man live,(BUT IN THE ENTIRE EOOD) but in every word(SPIRIT) that proceedeth from the mouth of God. (SINCE THE WORD,[JESUS' SPIRIT], OF GOD IS IN THE ENTIRE CREATION
There’s something in common in both scriptures, and definitely is the SPIRITUAL WORK.
In John 6:26 He said you did eat of the loaves In Matthew 4:4 He said:
Not in bread alone doth man live, but in every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God.
So if it is NOT IN BREAD ALONE THAT MAN LIVES, how is it contrary, in the other, and said YOU DID EAT OF THE LOVES,AND WERE FILLED.
So what did really Jesus mean? He seems contradicting Himself, in one he says not in bread alone, and in the other He said because you eat the BREAD. loaves.
Can you see it or not??
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
cRO 8:28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
1CO 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.
1CO 15:27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “ All things are put in subjection,” it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.
[/QUOTE]
Terraricca,
Since you, for a reason or another,ignored MY QUESTION, although it was not meant for you,WOULD YOU BE MATURE ENOUGH TO ANSWER IT ONLY FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS,SINCE YOU ALWAYS,WITH EVERY RESPECT, SATISFIED, AND QUENCHED YOU THIRST OF THE CARNAL UNDERSTANDING WHICH IT IS ALWAYS DEAD!
POSTING SCRIPTURES ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT GIVING LIGHT TO OTHERS THROUGH YOUR UNDERSTANDINS, YOU WILL ONLY CONFIRM THAT YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN IN THE TRUTH,SINCE IT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE EITHER AN EGOISTIC, IN THE DARK, OR TO CONFUSE WHOEVER WANT TO DISCOVER THE TRUTH.
So be a CHRISTIAN IN THE TRUTH AND GIVE WHAT YOU DISCERNED IN THE SCRIPTURES YOU POSTED YOURSELF, AND IF YOU WANT TO SHOW THE LOVE YOU HAVE FOR JESUS, BE HONEST AND EXPRESS YOURSELF IN THE TRUTH ALSO REGARDING MY QUESTION!
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN FLESH IN THE GLORY OF THE FATHER.
CHARLES
So if it is NOT IN BREAD ALONE THAT MAN LIVES, how is it contrary, in the other, and said YOU DID EAT OF THE LOVES,AND WERE FILLED.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 04 2012,20:42) Quote (carmel @ July 04 2012,17:32) Quote (Wakeup @ July 04 2012,10:38) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,14:24) mike, show me what you have got.
do not make stories.read in 1 john 5.20 that john says that christ is not the true GOD!
you can ask for help
Jammin.You need to read 1John 5:20 again and again.
it says '' and this is the true God.wakeup.
Quote read in 1 john 5.20 that john says that christ is not the true GOD! understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Wakeup,
read hereunder verse 21 and explain:
WHO IS THE ONE, WHOM THEY KNEW THAT HE WAS GOD, AND NEVER GLORIFIED HIM AS GOD
IS IT A REFERENCE TO THE FATHER, OR TO THE SON.???
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 BECAUSE THAT, WHEN THEY KNEW GOD,THEY HAVE NOT GLORIFIED HIM AS GOD,
or given thanks; but became vain in their thoughts, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Peace and love in Jesus
charles
Thank you for that Carmel,but its much deeper than that.wakeup.
Quote Thank you for that Carmel,but its much deeper than that.
Wakeup,
HOW ABOUT THIS ONE:
Matthew 9: 12 But Jesus hearing it, said: They that are in health need not a physician, but they that are ill. 13 Go then and learn what this meaneth, I will have mercy and not sacrifice. For I am not come to call the just, but sinners.
Through this statement from Jesus, we be aware that Jesus is God Himself in Flesh for the simple reason, that all the sacrifices which were offered in the OT. Were not to Jesus, but to God, therefore SINCE JESUS SAID :
I WILL HAVE MERCY AND NOT SACRIFICE: IT IS CLEAR ENOUGH THAT HE WAS THE GOD OF THE OT.
WHAT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDINGS
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
Quote (carmel @ July 07 2012,00:23) Quote (terraricca @ July 06 2012,08:32) Quote (carmel @ July 06 2012,14:33) Quote (journey42 @ July 02 2012,10:43) Quote (carmel @ July 01 2012,08:04)
Hi CharlesSorry I took so long to answer. The more I read, the more confused I became in trying to understand your explanation.
Last time I checked, God is not visible to us.
His creation is however.
Everything was made by the Word, and even before the Word became flesh.
So everything that was made, was evident from the beginning that a creator put it there, and we know who that creator is.I appreciate your lengthy explanation, but it is only confusion. The truth is so simple and easy to understand. God is not confusion.
Quote I appreciate your lengthy explanation, but it is only confusion. The truth is so simple and easy to understand. God is not confusion. J42,
Now TO CONFUSE YOU EVEN FURTHER, reflect on the scriptures hereunder.
John 6:26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, and WERE FILLED.
NOTICE: DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, and WERE FILLED.
Jesus made it clear that they followed him only because
THEY DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, SO through consuming the bread
ALSO HE SAID THAT THEY WERE FILLED. Definitely with His Spirit.
Now let’s reflect on another statement by Jesus regarding bread hereunder!
Matthew 4:4 Who answered and said: It is written, Not in bread alone doth man live,(BUT IN THE ENTIRE EOOD) but in every word(SPIRIT) that proceedeth from the mouth of God. (SINCE THE WORD,[JESUS' SPIRIT], OF GOD IS IN THE ENTIRE CREATION
There’s something in common in both scriptures, and definitely is the SPIRITUAL WORK.
In John 6:26 He said you did eat of the loaves In Matthew 4:4 He said:
Not in bread alone doth man live, but in every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God.
So if it is NOT IN BREAD ALONE THAT MAN LIVES, how is it contrary, in the other, and said YOU DID EAT OF THE LOVES,AND WERE FILLED.
So what did really Jesus mean? He seems contradicting Himself, in one he says not in bread alone, and in the other He said because you eat the BREAD. loaves.
Can you see it or not??
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
cRO 8:28 And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose.
1CO 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.
1CO 15:27 For HE HAS PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET. But when He says, “ All things are put in subjection,” it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him.
[/QUOTE]
Terraricca,
Since you, for a reason or another,ignored MY QUESTION, although it was not meant for you,WOULD YOU BE MATURE ENOUGH TO ANSWER IT ONLY FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS,SINCE YOU ALWAYS,WITH EVERY RESPECT, SATISFIED, AND QUENCHED YOU THIRST OF THE CARNAL UNDERSTANDING WHICH IT IS ALWAYS DEAD!
POSTING SCRIPTURES ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT GIVING LIGHT TO OTHERS THROUGH YOUR UNDERSTANDINS, YOU WILL ONLY CONFIRM THAT YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN IN THE TRUTH,SINCE IT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE EITHER AN EGOISTIC, IN THE DARK, OR TO CONFUSE WHOEVER WANT TO DISCOVER THE TRUTH.
So be a CHRISTIAN IN THE TRUTH AND GIVE WHAT YOU DISCERNED IN THE SCRIPTURES YOU POSTED YOURSELF, AND IF YOU WANT TO SHOW THE LOVE YOU HAVE FOR JESUS, BE HONEST AND EXPRESS YOURSELF IN THE TRUTH ALSO REGARDING MY QUESTION!
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN FLESH IN THE GLORY OF THE FATHER.
CHARLES
So if it is NOT IN BREAD ALONE THAT MAN LIVES, how is it contrary, in the other, and said YOU DID EAT OF THE LOVES,AND WERE FILLED.
CThe reasons that I posted those scriptures ,what are self explanatory to show that what you have disclosed in your quote is in reality wrong and opposit to your claim in your quote,
I do not want to go in a lengty discourse of explanation ,so use your own understanding that you have shown,
If you cannot connect the two togueter ,may be it would be time to read the scriptures again
Quote J42, Now TO CONFUSE YOU EVEN FURTHER, reflect on the scriptures hereunder.
Quote John 6:26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because ye DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, and WERE FILLED. Quote NOTICE: DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, and WERE FILLED. Jesus made it clear that they followed him only because
THEY DID EAT OF THE LOAVES, SO through consuming the bread
They were hungry, and if they hung around, they got a free feed.
These people did not see the miracle he just performed by walking on water, no no no no, they were seeking Christ because they were hungry for food, the type of food that perishes.This next verse clarifies it, as Jesus warns them
John 6:27 Labor not for the meat that perishes, but for the meat which endures unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.Whom has God the Father sealed?
For those who labour for the food that gives everlasting life, which is the truth, the Word of God, and not for those who come to Christ for the material rewards.Quote ALSO HE SAID THAT THEY WERE FILLED. Definitely with His Spirit.
They were filled because their bellies were satisfied.
No mention of their spirit's being filled. Hence the warning Christ gave them.John 6:49 Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.
Quote Now let’s reflect on another statement by Jesus regarding bread hereunder! Quote Matthew 4:4 Who answered and said: It is written, Not in bread alone doth man live,(BUT IN THE ENTIRE EOOD) but in every word(SPIRIT) that proceedeth from the mouth of God. (SINCE THE WORD,[JESUS' SPIRIT], OF GOD IS IN THE ENTIRE CREATION
We all need bread to fuel our bodies, can't change that, we don't eat, we die….but we are all going to die one day anyway, so if we eat the bread that comes from heaven (real spiritual food) then our spirits are nourished and when death arrives it will not mean it is the end for us, but the beginning.
For if we eat that spiritual food (Christs flesh) and he is the Word of God, then we are soaking in that truth which comes from God delivered to us through his Son and no other.Quote There’s something in common in both scriptures, and definitely is the SPIRITUAL WORK.
The only thing in common, is that both types are eating. One is eating the material food, and the other is eating the spiritual foodQuote In John 6:26 He said you did eat of the loaves In Matthew 4:4 He said: Not in bread alone doth man live, but in every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God.
So if it is NOT IN BREAD ALONE THAT MAN LIVES, how is it contrary, in the other, and said YOU DID EAT OF THE LOVES,AND WERE FILLED.
I explained already, their bellies were filled.Quote So what did really Jesus mean? He seems contradicting Himself, in one he says not in bread alone, and in the other He said because you eat the BREAD. loaves.
Yes if you don't seek the true meaning behind Christ's words, you will think a contradiction, however, the veil is taken of our eyes and we understand his speech and exactly what he is warning about.Quote Can you see it or not??
Yes absolutely.
Many come to Christ, or go to church for what they can get, and not for the truth.
Many will come because they want to be healed
Many will come because they seek a partner
Many will come because they are poor and know the church will feed them
Many will come because they need a job, or have no home
Many will come because they are lonely and want friends
Many will come because they have a business, and will find new clients
Many will come because they want to be a leader, and have power and position
Many will come for all sorts of reasons, for self gain, for material things, and not because they generally want to know the truth.
This type does not know how to worship God in spirit and in truth
We are given a beautiful invitation for the chance of receiving salvation, in order to do this we must concentrate on what we can give back to God, and not take take take or want want want….
and what pleases him is to see us coming closer to him by learning his Word, and actually living it by removing sin from our lives. This is what will bring us closer to him,
and if we don't study his Word, then we will not see his plan, or his will and our faith will be blind, for we will be open doorway to all deception and he does not want this.He wants us to come to him, as we have been given a second chance to make things right, and the only way to do this is to feed upon Christ's flesh (The Word of God) as righteousness truth and salvation does not come from any other food.
Quote (carmel @ July 06 2012,17:31) Quote (Wakeup @ July 04 2012,20:42) Quote (carmel @ July 04 2012,17:32) Quote (Wakeup @ July 04 2012,10:38) Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,14:24) mike, show me what you have got.
do not make stories.read in 1 john 5.20 that john says that christ is not the true GOD!
you can ask for help
Jammin.You need to read 1John 5:20 again and again.
it says '' and this is the true God.wakeup.
Quote read in 1 john 5.20 that john says that christ is not the true GOD! understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Wakeup,
read hereunder verse 21 and explain:
WHO IS THE ONE, WHOM THEY KNEW THAT HE WAS GOD, AND NEVER GLORIFIED HIM AS GOD
IS IT A REFERENCE TO THE FATHER, OR TO THE SON.???
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 BECAUSE THAT, WHEN THEY KNEW GOD,THEY HAVE NOT GLORIFIED HIM AS GOD,
or given thanks; but became vain in their thoughts, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Peace and love in Jesus
charles
Thank you for that Carmel,but its much deeper than that.wakeup.
Quote Thank you for that Carmel,but its much deeper than that.
Wakeup,
HOW ABOUT THIS ONE:
Matthew 9: 12 But Jesus hearing it, said: They that are in health need not a physician, but they that are ill. 13 Go then and learn what this meaneth, I will have mercy and not sacrifice. For I am not come to call the just, but sinners.
Through this statement from Jesus, we be aware that Jesus is God Himself in Flesh for the simple reason, that all the sacrifices which were offered in the OT. Were not to Jesus, but to God, therefore SINCE JESUS SAID :
I WILL HAVE MERCY AND NOT SACRIFICE: IT IS CLEAR ENOUGH THAT HE WAS THE GOD OF THE OT.
WHAT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDINGS
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
Carmel/Charles.john 12:49.For I have not SPOKEN OF MY SELF,BUT THE FATHER WHICH SENT ME,HE GAVE ME A COMMANDMENT,WHAT I SHOULD SAY,AND WHAT I SHOULD SPEAK.(God speaking through Jesus,always).
50. And I know THAT HIS COMMANDMENT IS LIFE EVERLASTING; WHATSOEVER I SPEAK,THEREFORE,EVEN AS THE FATHER SAID UNTO ME,SO I SPEAK.(God speaking through jesus,always).
So; who was speaking throught Jesus in Mat.9:12 ? GOD HIS FATHER did the speaking through his son.
Remember Jesus saying;I CAN NOT DO ANYTHING,OF MY SELF.WAKEUP.
Quote (Wakeup @ July 06 2012,22:55) AMEN,AMEN. WAKEUP.
Quote GOD HIS FATHER did the speaking through his son Wakeup,
TO CLARIFY, IT WAS NOT THE VOICE OF THE FATHER,BUT THE FATHER HIMSELF.
THIS CONFIMS IT
John 14:Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou NOT KNOWN ME, Philip? he that hath seen ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 10Believest thou not that I AM IN THE FATHER, and THE FATHER IN ME ? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that DWELLET IN ME, he doeth the works. 11Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
Jesus here confirmed that HE WAS THE ONLY GOD VISIBLE, ON EARTH,THE TRUE GOD,BOTH THE FATHER,AS SPIRIT,AND JESUS CHRIST AS FLESH. TWO AND BECAME ONE THROUGH GLORIFICATION FOR ETERNITY.
SINCE ALL THE REST ARE ONLY SPIRITS AND NOT VISIBLE INCLUDING GOD ALMIGHTY.
AND THE FATHER WILL OWN ON THE LAST DAY JESUS GLORIFIED BODY.
SO YOU AGREE THAT JESUS IS GOD IN FLESH !
GOD/MAN HYPOSTATIC UNION.
SINCE JESUS AS A HUMAN BEING HAD THE FATHER IN HIS SOUL THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT.
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
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