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Quote (Ed J @ June 11 2012,02:01) Hi Devolution, God warns against private interpretations of Prophecy. (2Peter 1:20)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Devolution?Quote (jammin @ June 13 2012,07:18) Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2012,03:01) Quote (jammin @ June 12 2012,05:12) Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2012,04:34) Hi Jammin, Most people understand The Bible with the understanding of a man. (Isaiah 55:7-11)
“The Bible” is best understood in much the same way “Optics” are understood.
What I mean is: “The Bible” must be understood as “a whole”, Gen. to Rev.But how is this done? Let us use “Optics” as a comparative example; OK?
The closer you look at something, the less that can be seen in the field of view.
And likewise, the focus of detail is lost with the greater field of view. I hope you are
getting all this? This is quite a conundrum, as you can only read one Bible verse at a time.Consider what it would take to make a map without the advent of aerial photography?
First you must understand each and every section of terrain. And then fit all sections
of terrain by scale into their respective positions. Scale is imperative to the whole.
But in order to fit all the sections by scale into the whole, “The Big Picture” has
to be clearly understood in the mapmakers mind; then all the pieces will fit!When beginners start to read The Scriptures they don’t understand what
“God” wants them to, because of what the ‘systems of religion’ taught them.
If they have been baptized with The “HolySpirit” and are open to His teachings,
then they will be like a skilled mapmaker understanding the terrain of God’s Word!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
you are one of those false teachers.
the son is truly God. the bible says that.
make your own bible
JQuote the son is truly God the son can not be the God of witch he his the son of ,
if so then all scriptures writers are liars including God and this would make YOU THE REAL LIAR, is it,
God can not lie, IF GOD SAYS HE HAS A SON THEN HE AS A SON AND HE IS NOT THAT SON RIGHT ? YES
yes the father has a son and his son is God by nature.
phil 2.6
Jour nature ,does not make us equal with all men ,in status only in being human ,
so it is with Christ the son of God ,
Christ has the same nature and so his “a god ” but NOT GOD ALMIGHTY THE CREATOR
not equal in rank, but not in human nature. do you know what you are saying boy? LOL
obama is still not all powerful. he is not GOD but only human.
he is not eternal. he is not all knowing. but you and obama are equal in nature, HUMAN. you are both human or MAN.obama by nature is not created. just like you boy LOL
but GOD is not the same as human. the father and the son have the same nature or form and that is GOD.
paul said they are equal
Philippians 2:6
GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
6 Although he was in the form of God and equal with God,
he did not take advantage of this equality.but you are not accepting this truth. study hard boy!
make your own bible boy. LOL
Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,19:17) not equal in rank, but not in human nature. do you know what you are saying boy? LOL
obama is still not all powerful. he is not GOD but only human.
he is not eternal. he is not all knowing. but you and obama are equal in nature, HUMAN. you are both human or MAN.obama by nature is not created. just like you boy LOL
but GOD is not the same as human. the father and the son have the same nature or form and that is GOD.
paul said they are equal
Philippians 2:6
GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
6 Although he was in the form of God and equal with God,
he did not take advantage of this equality.but you are not accepting this truth. study hard boy!
make your own bible boy. LOL
JPhil 2:6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,NIVPhil 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:KJV
Phil 2:6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,NASV
Phil 2:6 who, subsisting in the form of God, did not esteem it an object of rapine to be on an equality with God;DARBY
Phil 2:6 who, though he was in the form of God,
did not regard equality with God
as something to be exploited,KJRVsins you stuck on this verse ,tell me why Christ called his father his God
simple question please give me a simple answerbec the father is GOD by nature. there is no wrong calling him GOD.
those versions you posted said that Christ is equal with GOD. do you accept that?
do you accept that the father also called his son GOD?
Quote (jammin @ June 16 2012,04:06) bec the father is GOD by nature. there is no wrong calling him GOD. those versions you posted said that Christ is equal with GOD. do you accept that?
do you accept that the father also called his son GOD?
Jyou never told me what make you believe that the nature is the thing that makes you God ,what is that nature ? and what it is made of
only some scriptures says that ;it says FORM;
you last question I have already answered by saying ;if the sons of men are man then the son of God his a god .
Quote (terraricca @ June 15 2012,14:42) Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,19:17) not equal in rank, but not in human nature. do you know what you are saying boy? LOL
obama is still not all powerful. he is not GOD but only human.
he is not eternal. he is not all knowing. but you and obama are equal in nature, HUMAN. you are both human or MAN.obama by nature is not created. just like you boy LOL
but GOD is not the same as human. the father and the son have the same nature or form and that is GOD.
paul said they are equal
Philippians 2:6
GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
6 Although he was in the form of God and equal with God,
he did not take advantage of this equality.but you are not accepting this truth. study hard boy!
make your own bible boy. LOL
JPhil 2:6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,NIVPhil 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:KJV
Phil 2:6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,NASV
Phil 2:6 who, subsisting in the form of God, did not esteem it an object of rapine to be on an equality with God;DARBY
Phil 2:6 who, though he was in the form of God,
did not regard equality with God
as something to be exploited,KJRVsins you stuck on this verse ,tell me why Christ called his father his God
simple question please give me a simple answerQuote sins you stuck on this verse ,tell me why Christ called his father his God simple question please give me a simple answer Teraricca,
THIS IS YOUR SIMPLE ANSWER
TELL ME WHY THE FATHER CALLED HIS SON MY GOD?
Hebrews 1:8 But to the Son: Thy throne, O God,is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved justice, and hated iniquity: therefore God , thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Peace and love in Jesus the ONLY true GOD
CHARLES
Quote (carmel @ June 16 2012,22:59) Quote (terraricca @ June 15 2012,14:42) Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,19:17) not equal in rank, but not in human nature. do you know what you are saying boy? LOL
obama is still not all powerful. he is not GOD but only human.
he is not eternal. he is not all knowing. but you and obama are equal in nature, HUMAN. you are both human or MAN.obama by nature is not created. just like you boy LOL
but GOD is not the same as human. the father and the son have the same nature or form and that is GOD.
paul said they are equal
Philippians 2:6
GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
6 Although he was in the form of God and equal with God,
he did not take advantage of this equality.but you are not accepting this truth. study hard boy!
make your own bible boy. LOL
JPhil 2:6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,NIVPhil 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:KJV
Phil 2:6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,NASV
Phil 2:6 who, subsisting in the form of God, did not esteem it an object of rapine to be on an equality with God;DARBY
Phil 2:6 who, though he was in the form of God,
did not regard equality with God
as something to be exploited,KJRVsins you stuck on this verse ,tell me why Christ called his father his God
simple question please give me a simple answerQuote sins you stuck on this verse ,tell me why Christ called his father his God simple question please give me a simple answer Teraricca,
THIS IS YOUR SIMPLE ANSWER
TELL ME WHY THE FATHER CALLED HIS SON MY GOD?
Hebrews 1:8 But to the Son: Thy throne, O God,is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
9 Thou hast loved justice, and hated iniquity: therefore God , thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Peace and love in Jesus the ONLY true GOD
CHARLES
HI CHARLESQuote THIS IS YOUR SIMPLE ANSWER TELL ME WHY THE FATHER CALLED HIS SON MY GOD?
Heb 1:1 In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
Heb 1:2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.
Heb 1:3 The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
Heb 1:4 So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.
Heb 1:5 For to which of the angels did God ever say,
“You are my Son;
today I have become your Father’” ?Or again,
“I will be his Father,
and he will be my Son” ?Heb 1:6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
“Let all God’s angels worship him.”Heb 1:7 In speaking of the angels he says,
“He makes his angels winds,
his servants flames of fire.”Heb 1:8 But about the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.
Heb 1:9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.”now were does it say that God almighty called his son “MY GOD”
??Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2012,00:06) Quote (jammin @ June 16 2012,04:06) bec the father is GOD by nature. there is no wrong calling him GOD. those versions you posted said that Christ is equal with GOD. do you accept that?
do you accept that the father also called his son GOD?
Jyou never told me what make you believe that the nature is the thing that makes you God ,what is that nature ? and what it is made of
only some scriptures says that ;it says FORM;
you last question I have already answered by saying ;if the sons of men are man then the son of God his a god .
the form in verse 6 of phil 2 refers to the nature.
why dont you go to school first and study hard.
greek scholars know that form in phil 2.6 refers to christ as being GOD.
before he took the form of MAN, he was in the form of GOD or GOD.the father is a GOD
the son is a GODthey are both God. that is their nature, GOD
just like you and your father
you are both HUMAN or MAN
that is your form or nature.Quote (jammin @ June 17 2012,22:33) Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2012,00:06) Quote (jammin @ June 16 2012,04:06) bec the father is GOD by nature. there is no wrong calling him GOD. those versions you posted said that Christ is equal with GOD. do you accept that?
do you accept that the father also called his son GOD?
Jyou never told me what make you believe that the nature is the thing that makes you God ,what is that nature ? and what it is made of
only some scriptures says that ;it says FORM;
you last question I have already answered by saying ;if the sons of men are man then the son of God his a god .
the form in verse 6 of phil 2 refers to the nature.
why dont you go to school first and study hard.
greek scholars know that form in phil 2.6 refers to christ as being GOD.
before he took the form of MAN, he was in the form of GOD or GOD.the father is a GOD
the son is a GODthey are both God. that is their nature, GOD
just like you and your father
you are both HUMAN or MAN
that is your form or nature.
JQuote the father is a GOD
the son is a GODthey are both Gods. that is their nature, GOD
I agree with that but God almighty is a greater God because he his the father of god the son and so give birth to him,and by being second Christ his not first ,and only god almighty his the beginning of creation and his first creation is his SON
not god the son but GOD the son
the nature of GOD is almighty. if you are GOD (not god) ,you are almighty.
they are equal paul said.just like you and your father, you are equal. you are both HUMAN
and the nature of MAN is not almighty.
you are both not almightyQuote (terraricca @ June 17 2012,15:53) Quote (jammin @ June 17 2012,22:33) Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2012,00:06) Quote (jammin @ June 16 2012,04:06) bec the father is GOD by nature. there is no wrong calling him GOD. those versions you posted said that Christ is equal with GOD. do you accept that?
do you accept that the father also called his son GOD?
Jyou never told me what make you believe that the nature is the thing that makes you God ,what is that nature ? and what it is made of
only some scriptures says that ;it says FORM;
you last question I have already answered by saying ;if the sons of men are man then the son of God his a god .
the form in verse 6 of phil 2 refers to the nature.
why dont you go to school first and study hard.
greek scholars know that form in phil 2.6 refers to christ as being GOD.
before he took the form of MAN, he was in the form of GOD or GOD.the father is a GOD
the son is a GODthey are both God. that is their nature, GOD
just like you and your father
you are both HUMAN or MAN
that is your form or nature.
JQuote the father is a GOD
the son is a GODthey are both Gods. that is their nature, GOD
I agree with that but God almighty is a greater God because he his the father of god the son and so give birth to him,and by being second Christ his not first ,and only god almighty his the beginning of creation and his first creation is his SON
Quote his first creation is his SON Terraricca,
How did you conclude that He was created???
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
Quote (carmel @ June 23 2012,13:44) Quote (terraricca @ June 17 2012,15:53) Quote (jammin @ June 17 2012,22:33) Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2012,00:06) Quote (jammin @ June 16 2012,04:06) bec the father is GOD by nature. there is no wrong calling him GOD. those versions you posted said that Christ is equal with GOD. do you accept that?
do you accept that the father also called his son GOD?
Jyou never told me what make you believe that the nature is the thing that makes you God ,what is that nature ? and what it is made of
only some scriptures says that ;it says FORM;
you last question I have already answered by saying ;if the sons of men are man then the son of God his a god .
the form in verse 6 of phil 2 refers to the nature.
why dont you go to school first and study hard.
greek scholars know that form in phil 2.6 refers to christ as being GOD.
before he took the form of MAN, he was in the form of GOD or GOD.the father is a GOD
the son is a GODthey are both God. that is their nature, GOD
just like you and your father
you are both HUMAN or MAN
that is your form or nature.
JQuote the father is a GOD
the son is a GODthey are both Gods. that is their nature, GOD
I agree with that but God almighty is a greater God because he his the father of god the son and so give birth to him,and by being second Christ his not first ,and only god almighty his the beginning of creation and his first creation is his SON
Quote his first creation is his SON Terraricca,
How did you conclude that He was created???
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
Charleswas God alone at one time
is God omnipotente
what is it that you call creation
and this you have discussed with Mike,T8,and me in another topic
so you should know the scriptures like Col 1;14-20 and…..
Quote (terraricca @ June 23 2012,08:21) Quote (carmel @ June 23 2012,13:44) Quote (terraricca @ June 17 2012,15:53) Quote (jammin @ June 17 2012,22:33) Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2012,00:06) Quote (jammin @ June 16 2012,04:06) bec the father is GOD by nature. there is no wrong calling him GOD. those versions you posted said that Christ is equal with GOD. do you accept that?
do you accept that the father also called his son GOD?
Jyou never told me what make you believe that the nature is the thing that makes you God ,what is that nature ? and what it is made of
only some scriptures says that ;it says FORM;
you last question I have already answered by saying ;if the sons of men are man then the son of God his a god .
the form in verse 6 of phil 2 refers to the nature.
why dont you go to school first and study hard.
greek scholars know that form in phil 2.6 refers to christ as being GOD.
before he took the form of MAN, he was in the form of GOD or GOD.the father is a GOD
the son is a GODthey are both God. that is their nature, GOD
just like you and your father
you are both HUMAN or MAN
that is your form or nature.
JQuote the father is a GOD
the son is a GODthey are both Gods. that is their nature, GOD
I agree with that but God almighty is a greater God because he his the father of god the son and so give birth to him,and by being second Christ his not first ,and only god almighty his the beginning of creation and his first creation is his SON
Quote his first creation is his SON Terraricca,
How did you conclude that He was created???
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
Charleswas God alone at one time
is God omnipotente
what is it that you call creation
and this you have discussed with Mike,T8,and me in another topic
so you should know the scriptures like Col 1;14-20 and…..
Quote was God alone at one time is God omnipotente
what is it that you call creation
and this you have discussed with Mike,T8,and me in another topic
so you should know the scriptures like Col 1;14-20 and…..
Terraricca,
From the above you simply confirmed that you are not clear, SO
I repeat:
What convinced you that the Son was created??
I want it in BLACK AND WHITE THROUGH YOUR OWN TONGUE NOT SIMPLY POST SCRIPTURES.
SO DECLARE YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING TO PROVE THAT YOU KNOW THE TRUTH!!
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 23 2012,07:22) Hi Jammin,
Polytheism is not of true faith.
the bible says GOD is nature.Philippians 2:6
New International Reader's Version (NIRV)
6 In his very nature he was God.
Philippians 2:6
New International Version (NIV)
6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
the bible also says that there is a father, son and HS
the bible also says they have the same nature, and that is GOD
just like you and your father. you are two in numbers but ONE in nature or form and that is your human form or nature.
believe it or not
Quote (journey42 @ June 07 2012,18:25) Charles, I think you misunderstood me, of course God is not a person. This is what I stated. Quote John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Quote Also: God is a complex Spirit.
God has seven spirits
Charles, God is not split up into seven spirits. He is one. These seven spirits are serving him. These have a specific job to do and are angels.Quote God is a MYSTERIOUS entity CALLING GOD A PERSON IS AN INSULT BECAUSE YOU ARE DETERMINING WHAT GOD IS.
I fully agree. I did not imply this.Quote WE HUMANS AND CORRUPTED MORTALS ARE NOT CAPABLE TO DEFINE THE GEUINE ENTITY OF GOD, NOT EVEN IN ANY OF ALL THE LANGUAGES WE ARE ABLE TO POSSESS THE RIGHT AND PROPER WORDS TO DEFINE GOD.
Luke 10:22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.Quote THE HOLY SPIRIT IS A PERSON ROMANS 8:26: 27 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh INTERCESSATION for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh INTERCESSATION for the saints according to the will of God.
The holy spirit mentioned comes straight from God. If God makes intercession for us, and the holy spirit is the spirit of truth, then God is revealing deep things to us. Guiding us. Showing us what we ought to pray for…ie. showing us to strengthen our weaknesses and by bringing his words into remembrance whilst we pray.John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance whatsoever I have said unto you.
God makes intercession for the saints. He helps us to remember whatever he has said to us through his word.
He that searches the hearts is God and knows what is the mind of the spirit, (his will)
Quote SO THE HOLY SPIRIT INTERCEDE FOR US THEREFORE HE IS A PERSON Acts 8:29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
Acts 10: 19 While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold, three men seek thee. 20 Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I HAVE SENT THEMNOTICE I HAVE SENT THEM
POWER,OR FORCE HAS NO SUCH ATTRIBUTES
SO ALL THE ABOVE ARE ATTRIBUTES OF A PERSON. IF THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS JUST POWER OR FORCE NONE OF THE ABOVE COULD BE APPLIED
These are the attributes of God.Quote ( THE “I” AND ME PERSONAL PRONOUNS, THEREFORE HE IS A PERSON ALSO NOTICE I HAVE CALLED THEM ) SO ALL THE ABOVE ARE DIRECT ACTIONS BY THE HOLY SPIRIT AS A PERSON WITH AUTHORITY OF GOD.
POWER OR FORCE CANNOT FUNCTION AS SUCH.
The holy spirit is a mystery to the world Charles. A person is human. Think about it carefully what you are saying. May the Lord reveal to you.A force is something you can't see with power making things happen. This force comes from God.
Quote Charles, God is not split up into seven spirits. He is one. journey42,
So according to you since God has SEVEN SPIRITS HE IS SPLIT???
Explain how God is manifested in the entire creation in His Son's Spirit,with the power of the Holy Spirit,in so many vasts, versatiles, visible and invisible creatures which all own a spirit of their own,and God is still in His original state as He was before creation.
Explain how on the last day all these creatures would be totally united in ONE JESUS MYSTICAL BODY and still remain in myriad spirits and flesh,AND ALSO THE MANIFESTATION OF ONE GOD ALMIGHTY FOR ETERNITY!!
Quote The holy spirit mentioned comes straight from God.
If God makes intercession for us,WRONG: READ AGAIN IT IS CLEAR : but the Spirit itself maketh INTERCESSATION,
So scripture specified the SPIRIT ITSELF maketh INTERCESSATION,
not GOD. When scripture says God we would not be able to be aware how God acted but as it is we are aware that it is by the PERSON OF THE Holy Spirit.Obvious because we have the Holy Spirit within us, and through Him we would have Jesus and also the Father therfore God!!
PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES
Quote (carmel @ June 24 2012,10:43) WRONG: READ AGAIN IT IS CLEAR : but the Spirit itself maketh INTERCESSATION, So scripture specified the SPIRIT ITSELF maketh INTERCESSATION,
not GOD.
Hi Charles,Haven't your words just concluded that the Spirit OF God is not God Himself?
If Jesus intercedes with God on our behalf, then he is obviously not the God he pleads our case to. If the Spirit intercedes on our behalf, then it is obviously not the God it helps us to pray to.
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