1 John 5.20 – Christ is not the true God?

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  • #297236
    jammin
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    Quote (Ed J @ May 10 2012,13:57)

    Quote (jammin @ May 10 2012,11:32)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2012,06:20)
    Hi Jammin,
    Christ Jesus was in the form of God but emptied himself taking the form of a servant.
    Was he still in the form of God?


    that is right nick. he was in the form of GOD but emptied himself etc.

    now the question is, what is the meaning of he emptied himself?
    he emptied not his deity, but he gave up his divine privileges

    Philippians 2:6-7

    New Living Translation (NLT)

    6 Though he was God,
       he did not think of equality with God
       as something to cling to.
    7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges
       he took the humble position of a slave
       and was born as a human being.
    When he appeared in human form,


    Hi Jammin,

    Emptied himself? is no-where to be found in God's word, so your point is moot.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ill repeat
    now the question is, what is the meaning of he emptied himself?
    he emptied not his deity, but he gave up his divine privileges

    Philippians 2:6-7

    New Living Translation (NLT)

    6 Though he was God,
    he did not think of equality with God
    as something to cling to.
    7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges
    he took the humble position of a slave
    and was born as a human being.
    When he appeared in human form,

    #297242
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ May 10 2012,21:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 10 2012,13:57)

    Quote (jammin @ May 10 2012,11:32)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2012,06:20)
    Hi Jammin,
    Christ Jesus was in the form of God but emptied himself taking the form of a servant.
    Was he still in the form of God?


    that is right nick. he was in the form of GOD but emptied himself etc.

    now the question is, what is the meaning of he emptied himself?
    he emptied not his deity, but he gave up his divine privileges

    Philippians 2:6-7

    New Living Translation (NLT)

    6 Though he was God,
       he did not think of equality with God
       as something to cling to.
    7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges
       he took the humble position of a slave
       and was born as a human being.
    When he appeared in human form,


    Hi Jammin,

    Emptied himself? is no-where to be found in God's word, so your point is moot.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ill repeat
    now the question is, what is the meaning of he emptied himself?
    he emptied not his deity, but he gave up his divine privileges

    Philippians 2:6-7

    New Living Translation (NLT)

    6 Though he was God,
      he did not think of equality with God
      as something to cling to.
    7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges
      he took the humble position of a slave
      and was born as a human being.
    When he appeared in human form,


    “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself
    of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
    And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even
    the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:” (Phil 2:6-9)

    #297251
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 10 2012,22:47)

    Quote (jammin @ May 10 2012,21:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ May 10 2012,13:57)

    Quote (jammin @ May 10 2012,11:32)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2012,06:20)
    Hi Jammin,
    Christ Jesus was in the form of God but emptied himself taking the form of a servant.
    Was he still in the form of God?


    that is right nick. he was in the form of GOD but emptied himself etc.

    now the question is, what is the meaning of he emptied himself?
    he emptied not his deity, but he gave up his divine privileges

    Philippians 2:6-7

    New Living Translation (NLT)

    6 Though he was God,
       he did not think of equality with God
       as something to cling to.
    7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges
       he took the humble position of a slave
       and was born as a human being.
    When he appeared in human form,


    Hi Jammin,

    Emptied himself? is no-where to be found in God's word, so your point is moot.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ill repeat
    now the question is, what is the meaning of he emptied himself?
    he emptied not his deity, but he gave up his divine privileges

    Philippians 2:6-7

    New Living Translation (NLT)

    6 Though he was God,
      he did not think of equality with God
      as something to cling to.
    7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges
      he took the humble position of a slave
      and was born as a human being.
    When he appeared in human form,


    “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself
    of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
    And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even
    the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:” (Phil 2:6-9)


    that happened when he became a man, after his death

    follow the context boy LOL

    “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself
    of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
    And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even
    the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:” (Phil 2:6-9)

    BUT BEFORE THAT HE WAS IN THE FORM OF GOD! MEANS HE IS GOD BY NATURE!

    Philippians 2:6

    Amplified Bible (AMP)

    6 Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God [[a]possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God],

    #297252
    carmel
    Participant

    Hi all,

    Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    What about verse 11???

    Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    Can any of you define

    to the glory of God the Father

    To me it is equivalent to :

    TO THE STATE OF GOD THE FATHER, till the last day of the lord Jesus Christ,then from that moment of that day HE WOULD BE GOD THE FATHER GLORIFIED IN JESUS' BODY.AND JESUS' SPIRIT WOULD BE IN THE SAME GLORY AS HE WAS BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.

    Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word ( JESUS) be, which shall go forth from my mouth:(EMANATED AS A SPIRIT) IT SHALL NOT RETURN TO ME VOID,  but it shall do whatsoever I please, and shall PROSPER in the things for which I sent it.( THEREFORE CREATED ALL,GLORIFIED, ESTABLISHED GOD'S SPIRIT WITHIN OUR CREATION THROUGH HIS BODY IN THE  CHURCH,AND HE IS THE HEAD,AND THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD.THEREFORE JESUS IS GOD )

    Also in Jude 1:4……………….,turning the grace of our God( THE FATHER) into lasciviousness, and denying ( JESUS CHRIST)the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

    THEREFORE Jesus is the only Lord God,

    peace and love in Jesus.

    Charles

    #297253
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,
    What are these DIVINE PRIVILEGES?

    #297254
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,
    WAS He still a god with his own powers who did not need anointing with the Holy Spirit and power?

    #297295
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (carmel @ May 10 2012,10:56)
    Also in Jude 1:4……………….,turning the grace of our God( THE FATHER) into lasciviousness, and denying ( JESUS CHRIST)the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

    THEREFORE Jesus is the only Lord God,


    It seems to me that Jude mentions TWO Lords in that verse, Charles. One of them is called “the only Lord God”, and the OTHER one is called “our Lord Jesus Christ”.

    The word “and” seems to distinguish Jesus as a DIFFERENT Lord than the One called “the only Lord God”.

    #297298
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 09 2012,20:54)
    Hi MB,
    Do you really not know that Jesus of Nazareth was put to death?
    If you do not understand the Spirit of Christ do you have the Spirit?


    Nick,

    I responded to this post, but then moved my response to the “Pre-existence” thread, so as not to derail this thread anymore than we already have.

    #297304
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Jesus Christ has gone to his God and our God.[jn20]

    #297309
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    That's right, Nick. He ascended to where he was before.

    #297313
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    In a sense yes.
    The Word that he is one with was with God.

    #297328
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Nonsense, Nick.

    #297329
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    So YOU say

    #297347
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ May 11 2012,02:33)
    follow the context boy LOL

    “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself
    of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
    And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even
    the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:” (Phil 2:6-9)

    BUT BEFORE THAT HE WAS IN THE FORM OF GOD! MEANS HE IS GOD BY NATURE!

    Philippians 2:6

    Amplified Bible (AMP)

    6 Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God [[a]possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God],


    Hi Jammin,

    Nature doesn't make one GOD,
    we have already established this. (Matt.18:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #297352
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ May 11 2012,03:56)
    Hi all,

    Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word ( JESUS) be, which shall go forth from my mouth:(EMANATED AS A SPIRIT) IT SHALL NOT RETURN TO ME VOID,  but it shall do whatsoever I please, and shall PROSPER in the things for which I sent it.( THEREFORE CREATED ALL,GLORIFIED, ESTABLISHED GOD'S SPIRIT WITHIN OUR CREATION THROUGH HIS BODY IN THE  CHURCH,AND HE IS THE HEAD,AND THE HEAD OF CHRIST IS GOD.THEREFORE JESUS IS GOD )

    peace and love in Jesus.
    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    You believe Isa 55:11 is about Jesus,
    where YHVH speaks of “His word”?
    I ask for clarification purposes.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #297356
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ May 11 2012,03:56)
    Hi all,

    Also in Jude 1:4……………….,turning the grace of our God( THE FATHER) into lasciviousness, and denying ( JESUS CHRIST)the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

    peace and love in Jesus.
    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    Do you believe if  OTHERS DON'T see things as you do,
    it amounts to denying Jesus Christ as Lord?
    I ask for clarification purposes.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #297357
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2012,04:55)
    Hi Jammin,
    What are these DIVINE PRIVILEGES?


    I'd like to know what they are as well.     …well Jammin, what are they?

    #297363
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,14:49)

    Quote (jammin @ May 11 2012,02:33)
    follow the context boy LOL

    “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself
    of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
    And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even
    the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:” (Phil 2:6-9)

    BUT BEFORE THAT HE WAS IN THE FORM OF GOD! MEANS HE IS GOD BY NATURE!

    Philippians 2:6

    Amplified Bible (AMP)

    6 Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God [[a]possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God],


    Hi Jammin,

    Nature doesn't make one GOD,
    we have already established this. (Matt.18:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    read the context boy and you will know the true meaning if the verse

    #297365
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,15:10)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 11 2012,04:55)
    Hi Jammin,
    What are these DIVINE PRIVILEGES?


    I'd like to know what they are as well.     …well Jammin, what are they?


    form of a servant, of our own race, to serve his father. The divine glory was exchanged for human lowliness.

    #297370
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,
    So glory is the privilege?

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