1 John 5.20 – Christ is not the true God?

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  • #291126
    Ed J
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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2012,12:36)
    Hi Jammin, Christ's Father is GOD!

    1 John 5:20 οἴδαμεν δὲ ὅτι ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ θεοῦ ἥκει καὶ δέδωκεν ἡμῖν διάνοιαν ἵνα γινώσκομεν τὸν ἀληθινόν
    καὶ ἐσμὲν ἐν τῷ ἀληθινῷ ἐν τῷ υἱῷ αὐτοῦ Ἰησοῦ Χριστῷ οὗτός ἐστιν ὁ ἀληθινὸς θεὸς καὶ ζωὴ αἰώνιος

    But We know that the Son of God come to us, and given us understanding in order to know him
    that is true, and these are the things in his Son Jesus Christ, this is the true God and eternal life.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Jammin,

    If Jesus is the “Son of God”, who is Jesus' Father?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #291127
    Ed J
    Participant

    Why does Jesus call himself the “Son of Man”?   I will explain…

                            Jesus lineage explained

    “Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
    “Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
    “Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

    At birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
    At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)

    Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…

                       Mother         Father
                        Mary         HolySpirit
                         50%           50%
                             \              /
                               \          /
                                 Jesus
                                /        \
                              /            \        
                            /                \
                  Son of Man     Son of God
                 (Mark 6:3)        (Luke 1:35)

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

    #291128
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,02:00)

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2012,12:36)
    Hi Jammin, Christ's Father is GOD!

    1 John 5:20 οἴδαμεν δὲ ὅτι ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ θεοῦ ἥκει καὶ δέδωκεν ἡμῖν διάνοιαν ἵνα γινώσκομεν τὸν ἀληθινόν
    καὶ ἐσμὲν ἐν τῷ ἀληθινῷ ἐν τῷ υἱῷ αὐτοῦ Ἰησοῦ Χριστῷ οὗτός ἐστιν ὁ ἀληθινὸς θεὸς καὶ ζωὴ αἰώνιος

    But We know that the Son of God come to us, and given us understanding in order to know him
    that is true, and these are the things in his Son Jesus Christ, this is the true God and eternal life.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Jammin,

    If Jesus is the “Son of God”, who is Jesus' Father?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    the topic is about 1 john 5.20

    is Christ not the true GOD?
    the bible says he is the true God.

    you should follow the rules of this forum. stick to the topic.

    have some manners

    #291129
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ April 10 2012,02:00)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,15:57)

    Quote (carmel @ April 09 2012,02:22)
    If we say Jesus is not God we deny the Father in the presence of Jesus.


    Scripture Please?


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     If we say Jesus is not God we deny the Father in the presence of Jesus
    Scripture Please?          

    1 JOHN 2:22Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.  

    Edj,

    Now reflect on the above;

    Christ means anointed,and Jesus was born anoited through the Father's Spirit in Him,therefore who denies that Jesus is not God he deinies the Father.

    Matthew 10:33But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

    And in your opinion what Jesus is referring??

    What is it that we shouldn't deny in Him???

    Isn't it that His Father's Spirit is within Him??

    DO YOU DENY THAT THE FATHER'S SPIRIT WAS,and still is  IN JESUS??

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES.


    Hi Charles,

    Scripture I agree with.

    But what you say about Scripture, I respectfully disagree. …sorry.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #291130
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Charles,

    Scripture does NOT support your conclusions, sorry.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #291131
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2012,12:36)
    Hi Jammin, Christ's Father is GOD!

    1 John 5:20 οἴδαμεν δὲ ὅτι ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ θεοῦ ἥκει καὶ δέδωκεν ἡμῖν διάνοιαν ἵνα γινώσκομεν τὸν ἀληθινόν
    καὶ ἐσμὲν ἐν τῷ ἀληθινῷ ἐν τῷ υἱῷ αὐτοῦ Ἰησοῦ Χριστῷ οὗτός ἐστιν ὁ ἀληθινὸς θεὸς καὶ ζωὴ αἰώνιος

    But We know that the Son of God come to us, and given us understanding in order to know him
    that is true, and these are the things in his Son Jesus Christ, this is the true God and eternal life.

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Jammin,

    1 John 5:20 says Jesus' Father is God.
    I recommend you take English in High school.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #291135
    jammin
    Participant

    i did not say that the father is GOD. LOL

    the father is God
    the son is GOD.

    you should go back to elementary and learn how to read

    #291152
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2012,00:09)
    Hi T,
    At the Jordan from God and since then from the Son of God Jesus Christ directly or through the laying on of hands of his brothers.


    N

    no, this is the dream of many ,but no this is not the way of God ,

    this is the teachings of false religion ,I am well aware of those ,

    these men are part of the mystery religion club,

    if you are part of those ones Nick well you are in trouble ,this is why you are blind to the truth of scriptures

    #291158
    jammin
    Participant

    mystery religion club..LOL

    #291166
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Are you not familiar with the book of Acts?

    #291169
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2012,12:46)
    Hi T,
    Are you not familiar with the book of Acts?


    N

    it seems you are Not familiar of other scriptures right ???

    #291171
    NickHassan
    Participant

    yap yap

    #291175
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2012,13:26)
    yap yap


    :D :D

    your religion mystery club,believing that they are part of the saints ,this is an abomination to the name of Christ the son of God,

    they believe that the scriptures were written for them and so address them to them selves ,and preach deceit in this way,

    ” like Jesus said to those Jewish leaders HOW DO YOU GOING TO PREVENT YOURSELF FROM GOING INTO THE GEHENNA ??????????”

    #291179
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    You threaten others but know so little.

    #291184
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,02:07)
    Hi Charles,

    Scripture does NOT support your conclusions, sorry.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Quote
    Scripture does NOT support your conclusions, sorry.

    Edj,

    Again

    DO YOU DENY THAT THE FATHER'S SPIRIT WAS,and still is IN JESUS??

    You are short of comments.

    Support your opinion.

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #291185
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2012,13:53)
    Hi T,
    You threaten others but know so little.


    N

    is this all you can say ??? catholic priest also saying that ,and Protestant ministers also ,and many devious mystery religion do say that as well ,do you know why ????

    IT IS THEIR IGNORANCE IN THE SCRIPTURES TRUTH ,AND SO RELY MORE ON THE IGNORANCE OF OTHER TO GET AWAY WITH LIES,

    #291230
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2012,19:07)
    Hi MB,
    Are you asking about the flesh vessel or the treasure within?


    Well, Is 9:6 refers to the CHILD that was to be born.  Was the “spirit of Christ” BORN as a CHILD at any time?

    #291233
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Scripture shows a child in prophecy.

    #291234
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Scripture is elegant and efficient in the way it introduces and covers several subjects at once.
    This verse is a classic

    #291239
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,17:36)
    Hi MB,
    Scripture shows a child in prophecy.


    Nick,

    This CHILD is the one to reign from David's throne forever.  It doesn't say anything about the spirit that merges with him when he's 30 years old being called a mighty god, or reigning from the throne of David.

    This is of man, not scripture.

    The CHILD was born the Christ and the King.

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