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Does Hell last forever?

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Q: Does Hell last forever?

A: Whether they believe it or not, most people think Hell is a place of eternal punishment where sinners are thrown into a fire that never ceases to burn. Thus the wicked suffer excruciating pain for all eternity. But is this really what the Bible teaches? Would a loving God make people suffer eternally for sins they committed in their 100, 60, 40 years of life? Certainly the Bible states that hell is real, but hell is not what most believers and unbelievers have been led to believe. In this writing we are going to look at scriptures that dispel this idea of hell and show what it really is.

Is Hell eternal?

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  • March 20, 2015 at 12:35 pm#791146
    kerwin
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    @t8,

    T9 is what t8 is called when my fingers do the talking and misspeak.

    March 20, 2015 at 12:38 pm#791149
    kerwin
    Participant

    miia,

    What do you mean by “test them”?

    Honestly testing teachings repetitively breeds confidence in them when they do not fail the tests.

     

    March 20, 2015 at 12:43 pm#791151
    Miia
    Participant

    Hi Mila,

    The world teaches that men go to heaven.

    It is not a bible teaching.

    Hi Nick.

    What about these verses:

    “Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me. “In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. “If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. “And you know the way where I am going.” (John 14:1)

    “But if I am to live on in the flesh, this will mean fruitful labor for me; and I do not know which to choose. But I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better; yet to remain on in the flesh is more necessary for your sake.” (Phil 1:23)

    For we know that if the earthly tent which is our house is torn down, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. For indeed in this house we groan, longing to be clothed with our dwelling from heaven” (2Cor:1)

    “Therefore, being always of good courage, and knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord— for we walk by faith, not by sight— we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord.” (2Cor:6)

    And more.

    March 20, 2015 at 12:46 pm#791152
    Miia
    Participant

    Honestly testing teachings repetitively breeds confidence in them when they do not fail the tests.

    Oh OK thanks Kerwin 🙂

    March 20, 2015 at 1:12 pm#791160
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t8,

    There is no suggestion that flesh men will continue to populate the earth after judgement.

    Flesh is no more and we will be like the angels.

    March 20, 2015 at 1:16 pm#791161
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi mila,

    No teaching says man will have heaven as a home.

    The new house in a new body.

    To be with the Lord will mean to be on the earth usually but perhaps at times in heaven too..

     

    March 20, 2015 at 1:18 pm#791162
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Yes we see more guesswork here too.

    Opinion often rules over relevation

    March 20, 2015 at 2:52 pm#791185
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Flesh is no more and we will be like the angels.

    The only passage that can be used to make that case is where Paul writes that “flesh and blood will not inherit the reign of God …”.  That interpretation is based on assuming that the words “flesh and blood” are literal while at same assuming the “flesh” in the words “no flesh would be saved” in not literal.

    March 20, 2015 at 2:54 pm#791187
    Proclaimer
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    March 20, 2015 at 2:56 pm#791189
    kerwin
    Participant

    @t8,

    What point are these individuals making that takes an hour?

    March 20, 2015 at 3:06 pm#791192
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    You get confused not knowing what is literal and what is not?

    March 20, 2015 at 3:48 pm#791195
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    I have started the video at the point that is relevant to what we are discussing (which is near the end).

    It’s really just saying what we/some are saying here. The Earth as the abode of men and the Final Judgement comes with a punishment that is based upon the sins committed followed by final destruction of the wicked, and the old heavens and earth.

    From what I understand so far this video uses the words from a vision that was given in the Nineteenth century. It starts at the fall of Babylon. However, I have embedded the video to start near the end. You can watch the whole thing if you want though. Just move the slider to the beginning.

    It is mostly just following scripture from what I can see. Just worded like a story.

    March 20, 2015 at 3:58 pm#791197
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Nick, what is literal are the teachings about the destruction of the wicked. It is the prophecies that are more likely to be symbolic in meaning.

    March 20, 2015 at 4:29 pm#791200
    NickHassan
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    Hi t8,

    Should we worry about these things?

    Surely they were made for the devil and his angels and we have been given the words of eternal life?

    March 20, 2015 at 4:51 pm#791204
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Nick I am not sure we should worry about such things. But if people teach that the wicked are not destroyed and the human soul cannot be destroyed then I will correct them with scripture.

    Eternal Judgement is one of the foundational doctrines, so yes I am concerned about what eternal judgement means because it is very important. It’s not like a debate about genealogies or what type of sandals the messiah wore.

    March 20, 2015 at 8:42 pm#791213
    carmel
    Participant

     

    Carnel…….here is no “specific” scriptures that say souls are eradicated, just as the is no “specific” scripture that a soul keep living after a person dies.

    Gene,

    READ AND

    EXPLAIN HEREUNDER RELATED TO MY DEFINITION:

    Job 20:18 He shall be punished for all that he did,

    THE ABOVE IS A CLEAR REFERENCE TO A WICKED MAN’S SOUL,/ SATAN!

    IT SAYS

    HE SHALL BE PUNISHED AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL:

    NOT ERADICATED ENTIRELY

    SO WHEN THE PUNISH IS OVER AND DONE WITH HE WOULD GO THROUGH TO ANOTHER SALVATION PROCESS TILL HE IS HOLY EVEN IF IT TAKES AND ENDLESS TIME!

    and yet shall not be consumed:

    AGAIN AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL: HE WILL NOT BE CONSUMED! THEREFORE

    NOT ERADICATED ENTIRELY!

    according to the multitude of his devices so also shall he suffer.

    AN EMPHASIS TO MAKE US AWARE THAT

    ONLY ACCORDING TO HIS DEVICES HE SHALL SUFFER

    THEREFORE NO MORE NO LESS

    A JUST GOD

    SO AGAIN AS SOON AS HE SUFFERS JUSTLY,

    HE GO THROUGH TO ANOTHER SALVATION PROCESS TILL HE IS HOLY, EVEN IF IT TAKES AND ENDLESS TIME!

    THIS IS THE ONLY CONVINCING CONCEPT THAT GOD ALMIGHTY IS A LOVING GOD, HAVE AN ENDLESS PATIENCE,HE IS SUPERIOR TO ALL EVIL, AND HE REALLY MEANT IN THE TRUTH WHAT HE PRONOUNCED ON THE VERY FIRST BEGINNING:

    LET THERE BE

    OTHERWISE THE ABOVE MOST POWERFUL ATTRIBUTE OF GOD ALMIGHTY “THE WORD”

    IS A FALLACY

    SINCE IT NEVER ACTUALLY BEEN IN FULL

    THE FACT THAT HE CREATED THE FIRST LIVING SOUL, GOD’S TERM MAN:

    IN HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS THEREFORE:

    ETERNAL

    THROUGH THE WORD PROCESS FROM THE VERY FIRST BEGINNING!

    IN the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    SO SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR:

    THE WORD WAS GOD! ETERNAL OBVIOUS IN THE FUNCTION OF “THE WORD”, HIS SON!

    3All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made.

    SO ALL THINGS ARE MADE BY THE PROCESS, AND FUNCTION OF “THE WORD”

    THEREFORE ALL THINGS, EVEN IF IT DOESN’T LOOK SO TO OUR MORTAL CORRUPTED INTELLIGENCE ARE

    ETERNAL SINCE GOD’S WAYS ARE NOT OUR WAYS!

    4In him was life, and the life was the light of men

    THEN ABOVE DECLARED IN HIM WAS THE LIFE,

    ETERNAL

    THE LIFE ETERNAL WAS THE LIGHT OF MEN!

    SO MEN IS NOT ANY MORE DARKNESS, DEATH! SINCE “THE WORD” GAVE HIS

    ETERNAL LIFE TO ALL THE ENTIRE CREATION AS HE HIMSELF DECLARED:

    WHEN I AM LIFTED UP ALL THINGS COME ONTO ME!

    HE IS THE SOLE OWNER OF THE ENTIRE CREATION!

    HE OWNS HELL!

    HE OWNS ALL WHAT’S IN HELL!

    HE IS CAPABLE TO TRANSFORM ALL IN ORDER TO RESPECT THE FATHER’S WORD:

    BY HOOK OR BY CROOK:

    LET THERE BE

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    March 20, 2015 at 10:31 pm#791216
    Miia
    Participant

    No teaching says man will have heaven as a home.

    The new house in a new body.

    To be with the Lord will mean to be on the earth usually but perhaps at times in heaven too..

    Nick, If Jesus goes to prepare a place, where might that place be, that “where He is we may be also”? Where did He go but to the Father and the Father is in Heaven.

    What you say is not what Jesus said. Jesus said:

      “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. “But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal; for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. (Mat 6:19)

    I look forward to going back (If you have experienced it you will know what I mean).

    There is a new Heaven and a new Earth after the destruction of the Earth by fire (2Peter:3) which is soon to happen (at the 2nd return of Jesus).

    March 20, 2015 at 10:33 pm#791217
    Miia
    Participant

    Nick, do you believe in eternal conscious torment:  yes or no?

    March 20, 2015 at 10:52 pm#791218
    Miia
    Participant

    Men in the ages to come will likely multiply, thus if it is to exist eternally, you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to imagine that the Earth will run out of room at some point

     

    t8, I don’t believe men will multiply in some “ages to come”.

    People often confuse the “thousand year” reign on this present Earth (soon to end) with eternity in the new Earth (soon to begin).

    March 21, 2015 at 12:50 am#791221
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    So  a perfect Adam and Eve were told to multiply and then in the new Earth, there is no procreation?

    If God is redeeming creation back to the Father, then why the different plan all of a sudden. Does God redeem in a way that will go beyond the original plan? If so, for what reason. Did he not do it perfectly the first time?

    I am not ridiculing you. Just asking some honest questions relating to your view.

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