mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: My problem Mike, is that it’s all about YHVH’s Spirit coming to dwell in a man and what that Spirit accomplished in that man once he was sent out into the world…
Yahweh’s Spirit came to dwell in MANY men all throughout the Bible. That has nothing to do with whether or not Jesus preexisted his time on earth. This part of your argume…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: Paul spoke of himself also concerning the flesh, he like Jesus was an Israelite according to the flesh, Jesus’s fathers were Israelites.
Fair enough…
Romans 9:6-7… For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Nor because they are Abraham’s descendants are they all his children.
It’s clear that Paul is saying the Jews are his…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 8 months ago
@danny
Danny God called the raqia heaven and scripture is clear that God is in heaven. So you need to place God below the waters if you are sticking to your definition of raqia / dome. Please amend. If not,then you do not really believe this and you should be honest about that.
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Mike,
You seemed to have missed my point that Jesus right afterwards in Matthew 24 said that these Pharisees were BLIND.
How convenient for you that you see them as blind to one thing but it’s not possible for them to be blind to another.
Concerning David calling Jesus lord,
No one but Jesus has been made a king of kings and the lord of…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: How Adam came to be a human, how Eve came to be a human and how Cain came to be a human all occurred in different ways. This is the same for Jesus…
Thank you. That’s exactly what I’m saying. All human. All came to be human by different means, although Jesus and Eve are by very similar means.
Jodi: I would also like for you to addr…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: Here is the thing Mike, Matthew tells us directly that Joseph is Jesus’s bio father.
Matthew actually makes it abundantly clear that Joseph couldn’t possibly be Jesus’ bio father, since Mary became pregnant with Jesus before she had ever been with Joseph – and that Joseph, knowing about her condition, was even going to divorce her bec…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,
NO, Adam was not made into a one of a kind being, he was made into a human being the first of his kind. Cain was not made into a one of a kind being, he was made into a human being.
How Adam came to be a human, how Eve came to be a human and how Cain came to be a human all occurred in different ways. This is the same for Jesus, he was…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: We also know that David saw his own son in prophecy rise from the dead and be exalted to God’s right hand. David also knew that a future son of his would bring forth redemption and David’s own resurrection. We also know that Jesus is returning where he will sit on his father David’s throne where he will be a king of kings and a lord of lor…
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
Hi Berean,
Ezekiel 26:20 When I shall bring thee down with them that descend into the pit, with the people of old time, and shall set thee in the low parts of the earth, in places desolate of old, with them that go down to the pit, that thou be not inhabited; and I shall set glory in the land of the living; 21 I will make thee a terror, and thou…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
Hi LU,
Let me first bring it back to this major point that is still not being addressed.
Matthew is not talking about an adoption, he is giving us the BOOK OF Jesus’s GENESIS/ORIGIN and that of his GENEA/GENETIC LINE to establish that he is a bio son of Abraham and David. The book of Jesus’s GENTIC LINE, he who he is fathered by/of the same…[Read more]
Danny Dabbs replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 8 months ago
Jodi replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 8 months ago
Hi Carmel,
No you are not correct.
Let me clarify for you, there is numerous ways that we see glory in Jesus.
As the anointed of the Spirit made into our Messiah.
As the only mortal man who was begotten of the Spirit of God without measure.
As our savior through the Spirit of God that was upon him.
As the firstborn of the dead who received…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Jodi: Hi Mike,
We do have common ground with both agreeing that just because God is able to do something doesn’t mean that he did, but we still are not on common ground with your comparison, your comparison doesn’t work for me at all, they don’t fit.
Hi Jodi. I’m not making any “comparison”. I’m simply pointing out the FACT that if God can crea…[Read more]
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,
It’s all about the Spirit of God,
Hebrews 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
John 6:63 It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 8 months ago
That was my point, Gene. The waters above the firmament are ABOVE the sun, moon, and stars.
Hi Mike,
Biblically that is correct.
AND clouds are BELOW THE SUN, MOON AND STARS…RIGHT?🙏
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,
Jesus said he could do nothing of himself, he credited all the works that he was doing to God. Jesus quotes prophecy of Isaiah concerning himself saying, “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and r…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 8 months ago
Gene: Mike……No you “didn’t dumb it down good enough for us”…
Well that’s unfortunate Gene, because I can’t think of any way to dumb it down even further.
Gene: …but it does show how really dumb you are though?
I just drew what you two describe, Gene.
Gene: The sun and moon are not under the clouds as your stupid drawing shows…
Jodi replied to the topic Private Preexistence Thread For Jodi & Mike Only in the forum Debates 2 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,
Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being#stm5752 (as was supposed/Nomizo/to think) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
Jesus was the son of Joseph just as people thought he was.
Romans 9: 3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 8 months ago
Mike: Btw Pretender, what did you think about my solar eclipse image that showed the rays coming from the very top and bottom of the HUGE sun and hitting the poles straight on? Quite a difference from your seasons image that implied a sun that is smaller than the earth, huh?
Why do you think NASA would promote one thing to make one claim and a v…
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 2 years, 8 months ago
Mike……No you “dosen’t dumb it down good enough for us”, but it does show how really dumb you are though? The sun and moon are not under the coulds as your stupid drawing shows, they exist in space, outside of the earths five atmospheres, which are layers that exist on and over our e…[Read more]
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