Hi Jodi,

You: I have given you scripture that directly proves to you that Jesus was NOT the WORKER, that it was indeed YHVH our Father….

 
Me: Jodi the above is KID’S STUFF!
CAN YOU INSERT A NAIL INTO ANYTHING, WITHOUT THE USE OF A HAMMER OR SOMETHING SIMILAR, USING ONLY YOUR HAND?

YES OR NO PLEASE! 

NOW IF YOU USE A HAMMER OR SOMETHING…[Read more]

Hi Gene,,

You: It turns Jesus from a normal human being, 

Answer Gene, please:

CAN A NORMAL HUMAN BEING EXIST IN THIS WORLD WITHOUT

THE SEXUAL REPRODUCTIVE ACT BETWEEN

THE SPERM OF THE MAN AND THE OVUM OF THE  WOMAN,

FROM CAIN ONWARD?

YES OR NO PLEASE!

Peace and love in Jesus Christ

Gene,

You: exactly as he did”, Just as it is written, “he that overcomes,

I will grant to sit with me in my kingdom,

“JUST AS I HAVE OVERCAME”, and sit in my Fathers kingdom”. 

Me: Gene,

You produced a scripture that reveals how immature are regarding, both

THE KINGDOM OF GOD, and 

THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

BOTH THE KINGDOM OF THE FATHER,…[Read more]

Jodi

Why will I answer differently from other times?
God the Father is the source of all LIFE, even that of his only BEGOTTEN Son “in the days of eternity” (Micah 5:2)
When God does something for the Glory of His name, whatever means He uses, The glory comes to Him. Whether it is the creation of the world, the redemption of the world, and the…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

I have given you scripture that directly proves to you that Jesus was NOT the WORKER, that it was indeed YHVH our Father who was both the architect and the WORKER, where YHVH our Father had then rested from HIS WORK on the 7th day.

Our heavenly Father’s hallowed name is YHVH and there is one YHVH.

Deuteronomy 6: 4 `Hear, O Israel, YHV…[Read more]

Gene

You unfortunately did not understand what Hebrew 1:3 says

Who being the brightness of his glory, and 👉the express image of his person,👈

The word translated here as person, can also be translated as “essence”, or “substance”

🙏

Berean and Carmel…….The conclusion of what both of you say is completely unscriptural and not at all inline with our scriptures,  Carmel, Jesus was indeed “uniquely ” born , but none the less, a human being, exactly as we are, with our exception.  I showed you clearly how Jesus said we are also sons of God, he also said we must overc…[Read more]

Hi gene,

You: Carmel……..So at what age are we also the Sons of God?

ME: It all depends on how and WHEN you receive your first love! 

You: So tell us, how does saying Jesus is a son of God, make him any different the we are, in our “relationship”, to God the Father?

First and foremost:

Jesus is not a son of God But

THE SON OF GOD UNIQUE!<…[Read more]

Gene

You

Berean,  please tell us what the difference of Being someone,  and the “essence” of someone means.   I know it is a false Catholic  “trinitarian” teaching……

Me

The Word “person” or “essence”

I recognize that it is not a very common word in the Bible but it exists.

Hebrew 1:3

Who being the brightness of his glory, and t…[Read more]

Carmel……..So at what age are we also the Sons of God?   Seeking Jesus called us all sons of Gd n scripture over and over,  remember? , our “father”who art in heaven”, and again ” how much more will your “father”who is in heaven give them of the spirit that ask”, and agin, “your “father”who is in heaven know you have need of these things” and ag…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: Does Jesus identify himself as the Son of God by the works of God that he is able to do because the Spirit of God abodes in him? 

Yes indeed, such is what we read Jesus proclaiming of himself throughout the gospels. 

Me: No Jodi, that is your corrupted mentality!

JESUS IDENTIFIED HIMSELF AS THE SON OF GOD FROM THE AGE OF T…[Read more]

Berean,  please tell us what the difference of Being someone,  and the “essence” of someone means.   I know it is a false Catholic  “trinitarian” teaching.

Jodi and I and Nick,  have posted scripture after scripture to you over and over and you just hold on to your false teachings, are you so “indoctrinated” in the doctrines of you “Church” , [Read more]

Jodi

You must learn to differentiate between: BEING (THE)GOD AND FATHER
AND THE SON OF GOD THE FATHER WHO IS GOD (IN ESSENCE)

We are human because our parents are human
THUS IN THE BIGINNING THE SON OF GOD WAS GOD(DIVINE, GOD IN ESSENCE..)
BECAUSE HE CAME OUT OF HIM (GOD THE FATHER) IN THE DAYS OF ETERNITY. (Micah 5:2)

For the Father himself…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

First off, thanks for continuing the debate!

You are confused by my last post it seems though, with the point I was trying to make. It’s about how one interprets a passage through who they already believe Jesus to be and if it is a passage where Jesus says “I”, then they are interpreting it through who they believe Jesus believes…[Read more]

Jodi

You

Berean, as you believe Jesus is a pre-existing God from the beginning you read the passage like this, “with the glory I (a God from the beginning) had with thee, before the world was.

I read the passage however like this, “with the glory I (the Son of Man and promised Son of God), had of thee before the world was.

Me

I don’t said…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

Hebrews 4: 4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7 Again,…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

It’s all about the truth of who Jesus is, moreover who he knows himself to be. 

“with the glory I had with (para, of/with/from) thee, before the world was.

He knows himself to be the promised Son of Man.

He knows himself to be the promised Son of God according to God’s word unto David, and according to God aboding in him, him being…[Read more]

`Carmel…….I also had eternal life, glory and honor, “with God the father”, before the world was.  I have yet to receive it, but it is “prophesied ”  for me.  The exact same thing applied to the “son of man”, Jesus Christ.

Ask me for proof,  and I will give it to you,  right from scriptures.  But you will still deny it, just as you deny the tr…[Read more]

Jodi

You

In John 17 why then would we NOT believe that Jesus would be asking God for the very glory that had been with God, foreordained for Jesus to receive, since even before the world was?

Me

You👉….that Jesus would be asking God for the very glory that had been with God,

Jodi, the text don’t Say that

It Say 👉

O Father, glorify thou me…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: Is it possible Berean that our heavenly Father created heaven and earth by reason of and for Jesus Christ?

Me: Isn’t it THE PURE TRUTH that our heavenly Father created heaven and earth by reason of and for 
HIS KINGDOM?
Matthew 6:33 Seek ye therefore FIRST the kingdom of God,
and his justice, and all these things shall be added…[Read more]