Danny……………….Your hunting for anything that can contradict what Irenaeus said and  clearly explained in (ca 185 AD) .   Danny that the problem here people hunt and peck and add words and change meanings in order to force the truths that are clearly written, in other places in our text.
Danny I am telling you , Irenaeus in (ca.185 AD)

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Adam……if we ad scriptures those Jews did all kind of things to the Propets who prophesied against them, there are hundreds of  examples clearly written in   the Hebrew  Texts,  scriptures about Jeremiah. Ezekiel, they tried to kill, Moses they tried to get rid of,  even forced Eron,  to make a idol for them to worship their Gods. Even Joseph th…

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Berean……yes God’s word was indeed with God, just us as your word is with you.  You can’t separate yourself from your words, neither can God either  .

peace and love to you and yours……….gene

Adam……if we ad scriptures those Jews did all kind of things to the Propets who prophesied against them, there are hundreds of  examples clearly written in   the Hebrew  Texts,  scriptures about Jeremiah. Ezekiel, they tried to kill, Moses they tried to get rid of,  even forced Eron,  to make a idol for them to worship their Gods. Even Joseph th…[Read more]

Did Jesus Fulfill Prophecy?

The belief that Jesus fulfilled prophecy has been a cornerstone of the notion that Christianity supersedes Judaism. From the first century until now, Christians have correlated statements about Jesus with carefully chosen Old Testament prophecies to document their belief that God’s plan for human salvation reached i…[Read more]

IN THE BIGINNING WAS THE WORD
AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD
AND THE WORD WAS GOD.

Adam…….Do you actually Believe God did what he did to Israel and the Jew’s , without reason?  They constantly sinned against God , giving the things God gave them,  as given to them from the Gods of those other nations, provoking  God the Father to do what he did to then, they became to God a unholy people, corrupt from head to tow.
They were nev…

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Adam…….Do you actually Believe God did what he did to Israel and the Jew’s , without reason?  They constantly sinned against God , giving the things God gave them,  as given to them from the Gods of those other nations, provoking  God the Father to do what he did to then, they became to God a unholy people, corrupt from head to tow.
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@genebalthrop

Gene,

I have found a very clear quote from Irenaeus.
He said in his Book Against Heresies, 4.5.2.
“Christ Himself, therefore, together with the Father, is the God of the living, who spoke to Moses, and who was also manifested to the fathers.”

What about that?
If you reject that, then you are cherry picking.
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Ok, maybe this quote was not clear enough.
I have found a very clear quote from Irenaeus.
He said in his Book Against Heresies, 4.5.2.
“Christ Himself, therefore, together with the Father, is the God of the living, who spoke to Moses, and who was also manifested to the fathers.”

What about that?
If you reject that, then you are cherry…[Read more]

Berean: Gene

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 
For by him were all things created…

Berean, who is our Creator?

gadam: Your strange ideas of interpreting Hebrew scriptures…

Like I told you in the other thread, “Lol, ha ha” is not a valid argument.  Neither is claiming the other guy’s ideas are “strange”, therefore you “win”.  🙄

gadam:  Sorry I don’t want any further arguments on this Arian controversy here with me.

Fantastic!  Take care.

Gene: Berean …..I realize Jesus is your God, and you worship him as such,   but he is not my God, I have a God and it’s the same God , Jesus has.   Thank you for your concern though.

peace and love to you and yours……..gene

Brilliant!  No long explanations needed.  Just the plain, simple and SCRIPTURAL fact that our God is also Jesus’ God.  We kno…[Read more]

Hello brother Gene,

Adam………….It was God that used the gentile nations to  persecute  the Jews, and kick them out of their land, he gave them and Israel out of the land he gave them also, and it was God who sent a sword  after the Jew’s , to destroy them in the nations they went to, just as scriptures says. While the kingdom of Israel and the king…

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Proclaimer: It was addressed perfectly and you know it. That is why you got a bit upset.

Actually, you still haven’t addressed it.  Since the point I’m making is easy for anyone to understand, I can only imagine that you’re going out of your way to pretend like you can’t understand it.  Maybe this will help…

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Adam………….It was God that used the gentile nations to  persecute  the Jews, and kick them out of their land, he gave them and Israel out of the land he gave them also, and it was God who sent a sword  after the Jew’s , to destroy them in the nations they went to, just as scriptures says. While the kingdom of Israel and the kingdom of Judah, were…[Read more]

Hi To all

Sweet, loving, full of compassion,

But you, Lord, are a merciful and compassionate God, slow to anger, rich in goodness and faithfulness. Ps. 86:15.

God desires that, according to the principles of his ministry, we comfort one another with tenderness and love when great trials arise. No one lives or dies for himself. Life and death…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

Drop the bias and read it:

7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, (a)
and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away.
Yet who of his generation protested? (b)
For he was cut off from the l…

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Second error

Characteristics of the Messiah

The New Testament teaches that the messiah came as a suffering servant. That he was despised, rejected, and sacrificed.

Then he returns as the reigning King headquartered in Israel where he will rule the nations. The messiah’s kingdom is glorious beyond your belief. You and others put little stock in…[Read more]

First error

Please remember that the Hebrew Messiah will not change Tanakh and in fact he will up hold it. It was purely the creation of NT writers that the Messiah would change every thing and invent a new religion. No where this is supported in the Hebrew Bible.

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come t…[Read more]