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    gadam123 replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 4 months ago

    ADAM…….This is what God said,

    Isa 50:1…..Thus saith the LORD, Where is the bill of your mother’s divorcement, “whom I have put away? Or which of my creditors is it, to whom I have sold her?,  Behold for your iniquities have , “YOU” SOLD YOURSELVES, and for “YOUR TRANSGRESSIONS ”  IS YOUR MOTHER PUT-AWAY.

    That is the way I see it,  and I SEE NO ,…

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 4 months ago

    Hi Danny,

    YOU: Do you believe that Jesus is Almighty God or a lesser God?

    ME: Scripture:

    John 13:3 Knowing that the Father had given him ALL THINGS into his hands and that
    he came from God, and goeth to God; 
    JESUS “THE WORD” SPOKEN OF GOD, LEFT THE FATHER AS A SPIRIT, AND RETURNED TO THE FATHER GLORIFIED ONE SUBSTANCE

    BOTH SPIRIT, GODLY AND…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 4 months ago

    ADAM…….This is what God said,

    Isa 50:1…..Thus saith the LORD, Where is the bill of your mother’s divorcement, “whom I have put away? Or which of my creditors is it, to whom I have sold her?,  Behold for your iniquities have , “YOU” SOLD YOURSELVES, and for “YOUR TRANSGRESSIONS ”  YOU MOTHER  IS YOUR MOTHER PUT-AWAY.  

    That is the way I see it,  …[Read more]

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    Johnyy replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 4 months ago

    @Lightenup

    Hi LU,

    Thanks for your answer.
    I believe that Jesus is an only begotten God.

    There is no article in the greek.

    Do you believe that Jesus is Almighty God or a lesser God?

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    One question to you Adam, do you see in the NT that the Father is also identifying His
    Son as YHVH? I’m not asking you if you agree that the Son is also YHVH, I’m just asking if you agree that it appears that way specifically from Heb. 1. Please just give me a “yes” or a “no.”

    LU

    P.S. I’ll respond to your comment about winning “against” non…

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    gadam123 replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 4 months ago

    Adam……Every person, nation, fathers and sons,  are brought in judgement for their own sin, not the sin of another,  Israel, and Judah,  transgressed greatly against their God,  they were not now or then being used as a “suffering servant ” of God.  Read the blessings and cursing, given them in Lev 26:14-42.  God said he would bring on them for t…

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    Hi Adam,

    Thank you for your reply.

    You said:

    As we read the above portion of scripture it is clear that the Lord(Yahweh) alone God and no one else is found in this text of Hebrew Bible. You want to see Jesus the supposed Messiah also as Yahweh in these words but that will be twisting the scriptures which was freely done by the NT writers.

    One…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 4 months ago

    Adam……Every person, nation, fathers and sons,  are brought in judgement for their own sin, not the sin of another,  Israel, and Judah,  transgressed greatly against their God,  they were not now or then being used as a “suffering servant ” of God.  Read the blessings and cursing, given them in Lev 26:14-42.  God said he would bring on them for…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 4 months ago

    Hi Danny,

    Jesus is the only begotten God and the Father identifies Him as YHVH who laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the work of His hands.

    John 1:18

    No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

     

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    Berean replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 4 months ago

    Gene

    Adam……The one who persecuted And cast Israel out of their land was God himself,  and he used the Assyrians to do it, because of all their unfaithfulness to him 

    Me

    What you say to Gadam is right, but know that God does not “persecute” anyone; thé devil yes, but not God.
    God chastises us, yes and for our good and this is what happen…[Read more]

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    Hi Gadam,

    YOU: I am not limiting to Hebrew Bible alone in fact I am searching all religions.

    And I am comparing the NT with its original source Hebrew Bible.

    ME: Unless you change your carnal-minded mentality, NOTHING OF GOD,  which is dominant in the OT.

    You will neither see nor understand God’s truth!

    A MYSTERIOUS SPIRIT, HIDDEN AND…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 4 months ago

     
    2CORINTHIANS 3:6
    …..God;
    Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

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    Hi To all

    At all times, God’s witnesses have exposed themselves
    stigma and persecution for the sake of the truth.
    Joseph was mistreated and imprisoned, because he kept
    his faithfulness and integrity (see Genesis 39: 1-23). David, the
    chosen messenger of God, was driven out by his enemies as
    a beast of prey (see 1 Samuel 24.1.12). Daniel was…[Read more]

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    Johnyy replied to the topic in the forum Site-Wide Activity 5 years, 4 months ago

    @t8

    Hi Proclaimer,

    I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

    But the question is if He is also God or just a god?

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    gadam123 replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 4 months ago

    Suffering Messiah was not known to Jews of Jesus’ time the same is clearly evident even in the earliest strands of the NT writings. Here are few such verses;

    1 Cor 1:

    23 but we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,

    Here Paul clearly knew that suffering Messiah was not accepted by the Jews of his ti…[Read more]

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    gadam123 replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 4 months ago

    Adam……The one who persecuted And cast Israel out of their land was God himself,  and he used the Assyrians to do it, because of all their unfaithfulness to him. Adam,   Don’t let them make you  think they were this ” Holy” pious,  persecuted servant, people of God,  because that is far from the truth.

    Jer 3:8…..And I saw  when for all the cause…

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 4 months ago

    Adam……The one who persecuted And cast Israel out of their land was God himself,  and he used the Assyrians to do it, because of all their unfaithfulness to him. Adam,   Don’t let them make you  think they were this ” Holy” pious,  persecuted servant, people of God,  because that is far from the truth.

    Jer 3:8…..And I saw  when for all the cause…[Read more]

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    Adam, do you know the saying “hindsight is 20/20”?

    If not, it is explained here:

    It is easier to clearly reevaluate past actions or decisions than when they are being made or done; things are clearer or more obvious when they are reflected upon. A reference to the visual acuity of normal eyesight (20/20 vis…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 5 years, 4 months ago

    It is logical that those who reject the messiah will reject the idea that Isaiah 53 is about the messiah because if it was, then the only person who fits the description in world history is Jesus of Nazareth.

    Jesus Christ bore the sin of many including myself. But gadam, did Israel do that for you? If so, I think you are hopeless. Instead put…[Read more]

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