Paul understands the Father is also our “kurios” Lord, and Paul understands that Jesus is also our theos. In the context of 1 Cor 8:6, Paul is identifying two persons who are our God and Lord. In the NT when the context is speaking about the Father and the Son, they are typically distinguished as God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. That doe…

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Yes it is about YHVH of hosts Himself, it is also about you because you are stumbling over the truth that Jesus is the Rock of Offense in Isaiah 8. I’m sorry to say that you, Adam, are among the many that shall stumble and fall and be broken and be snared, and be taken, v. 8:15. You are not alone here in that. Most of the members here are s…

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Hi Adam,

Regarding 1 Peter, you said:

Again 1 Peter taken a portion of scripture from Isaiah 8;

8:13 Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.

8:14 And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the…

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Mike,

You asked:

Kathi, do you really think Paul was saying that the Father isn’t also our Lord?

Paul understands the Father is also our “kurios” Lord, and Paul understands that Jesus is also our theos. In the context of 1 Cor 8:6, Paul is identifying two persons who are our God and Lord. In the NT when the context is speaking about the Father a…[Read more]

@Mikeboll64

Prov 8

22Jehovah possessed me — the beginning of His way, Before His works since then.

23From the age I was anointed, from the first, From former states of the earth.

24In there being no depths, I was brought forth, In there being no fountains heavy waters,

25Before mountains were sunk, Before heights, I was brought f…[Read more]

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Hi Mike,

Yes, Pebbles, not Bambam. When I realized that I got the name wrong, the “edit” button was gone, haha.

You said:

The Bible ALWAYS identifies God with SINGULAR pronouns and verbs. But PLURAL families (the Flintstones) or entities (the YHVHs) would not be characterized with singular verbs and pronouns.

We say the Flintstones…

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@Proclaimer,

In Heb 1, I have written in parenthesis who I believe the pronouns apply to, maybe you can do the same exercise so we can see where we differ.

Heb 1:

1On many past occasions and in many different ways, God spoke to our fathers through the prophets. 2But in these last days He (the Father) has spoken to us by His Son,a whom He (the…[Read more]

@Proclaimer:

You said:

But about the Son he says,

The Son says…? The Psalmist says…?

The Father says, about the Son.

Let it be.

@Proclaimer,

You said:

I read a post of yours somewhere that pointed out that “ye are gods” is not using the word ‘theos’ but a plural version of that. Thanks for pointing that out.

You’re welcome, is that your way of apologizing for telling me to “shut your mouth” when I attempted the first time to show you that?

@Proclaimer

You wrote:

1 Cor 8:6 yet to us is one God, the Father, of whom are the all things, and we to Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are the all things, and we through Him;

Stop pretending you believe this LU. Your teaching is clearly contrary to what this is saying.

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Hey Guys,

Hebrews 1 tell us all that it was the Son that was in the beginning, the mystery is solved but you keep denying it Gene.

But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe.

Later in Hebrews 1 the Father identifies the Son as YHVH.

10And:

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Hi Gadam,

YOU: Later in the story Judas, overwhelmed by guilt, flings the money back at the priests and then commits suicide (Matt 27:3–5). When the priests use the money to buy some land, Matthew informs us that this fulfills a prophecy of Jeremiah about thirty pieces of silver (Matt 27:6–10). The prophecy in question is actually from Zec…[Read more]

Hi Gadam,

YOU: They made big mess of Jesus the supposed Messiah into a preexisting godly being who was  supposed to be involved in God’s creation in the beginning and he is the giver of life and eternal life which are not supported in the Hebrew Bible.

With every respect to you, Adam,

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Christianity Offers No Answers About the Coronavirus ?

For many Christians, the coronavirus-induced limitations on life have arrived at the same time as Lent, the traditional season of doing without. But the sharp new regulations—no theater, schools shutting, virtual house arrest for us over-70s—make a mockery of our little Lenten disc…[Read more]

James Dunn’s conclusion in Christology in the Making that there is ‘little or no good evidence from the period prior to Christianity’s beginnings that the Ancient Near East seriously entertained the idea of a god or son of god descending from heaven to become a human being in order to bring man salvation, except perhaps at the level of popular…

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Hi Proclaimer, thanks for your good luck.

Gadam has no hope if he rejects Jesus.his body, and the New Testament. Why? Because the Old Testament has no gospel to the Gentiles. That is because the plan of God was to work theough Israel, then for the messiah to cone, then to work through anyone who us willing.

Unless you are Jewish gadam where is…

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Hi To all

During the first centuries of the Christian era there was some reluctance to accept the authenticity of the book to the Hebrews as part of the biblical canon. Today, two thousand years later, the main theme of the book – perfection of character – continues to bother some Christians. Having not yet experienced the power of the gospel, it…[Read more]

Gadam has no hope if he rejects Jesus.his body, and the New Testament. Why? Because the Old Testament has no gospel to the Gentiles. That is because the plan of God was to work theough Israel, then for the messiah to cone, then to work through anyone who us willing.

Unless you are Jewish gadam where is your hope?

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Adam……It wasn’t the original writers, the disciples  of Jesus,  that did that , it was those later who infiltrated the church and  altered the truth to fit their false teachings,  like the Gnostic’s and others, who formed the false teachings of the trinity and PREEXISTING Jesus,  it was not the true teachers of Jesus who did that. Jesus himsel…[Read more]

Gene

Berean……yes God’s word was indeed with God, just us as your word is with you.  You can’t separate yourself from your words, neither can God either  .

Me

YOU WILL HAVE WON A GREAT VICTORY WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND HOW A CHILD CAN UNDERSTAND IT THAT IT IS NAMED THE WORD (OF GOD) AND WELL IT IS JESUS HIMSELF.

ELSEWHERE JOHN SAYS IN JOHN 1: 3
All…[Read more]