Hi Berean, it is the the interpretation of SDA Church and Christianity on Dan 9:24-27 not Jewish one.

Mike

Very good question…..

My answer IS

GOD CREATED BY HIS SON BECAUSE

ALL IS FROM GOD THE FATHER(the Son too) AND BY HIS SON…

…..one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him;

and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

I’m sure you will one day understand this: OF WHOM ….. BY WHOM

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The SON OF GOD (named by John“THE WORD”) WAS WITH THE GOD IN THE BIGINNING AND HE WAS GOD.

ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM ; AND WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANY THING MADE THAT WAS MADE.

Proclaimer……Tell us was Adan born or created,  you false assumption of them being the same is wrong, because “born”,  “ALWAYS”, implies a “BIRTH” process, while a creation does not.   Adam and eve were “CREATED”, not “born”,  The first person “BORN” was “CAIN”.  

Therefore Jesus said unto them,  “you are of your father (the devil),, because the…[Read more]

Berean:  Mike 
John 1:3 give the answer
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 
HIM = THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD

Thanks for your answer.  You believe Jesus is the Creator.  What then do you make of this?

Mark 13:19-20

…because those will be days of distress unequaled from the beginning, when God cre…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike……Right on brother.  Very good post to LU and Berean too.

Thanks Gene.  Hey, do you know what happened to Ed J?  I haven’t heard anything from him in months.

Mike……Right on brother.  Very good post to LU and Berean too.  That is the way I see it also,  one God who created everything “alone and by himself”. Isa 44:24,   God does nothing through his servants but speakers his words to them and sends them out to tell his words, to who he sends them to.  That is exactly what he did with the prophets…[Read more]

How do you get that he created all things from ‘Zoe’?

I googled it and this came up which I thought was interesting.

In the third century, Alexandrian Jews translated the Hebrew name Eve to its Greek equivalent, Zoe. The name became popular with early Christians, who associated its meaning of “life” with eternal life.

So Adam and Eve could be…[Read more]

@dannyd

Hi Proclaimer,
I finally got it.
God is not a nature. He is an identity.
Thanks for making that clear.
It’s very hard to think clear sometimes because of
the things we were being indoctrinated in our past.

Hey that is awesome. It really isn’t that difficult, but as you say, when you have been taught otherwise it is. We need to unlearn s…[Read more]

To all……Your using the word “firstborn”,  to mean first created.

Not so. Creation is defined for us. It is all that was made by God through the Word.

Nothing was created outside of this.

Thus, the Word is not created.

The Word was WITH God in the beginning.

Thus, was begotten directly by God.

From that, all things were created by God throu…[Read more]

Hi Gadam AND all

Pleased Read AND be blessed

Daniel 9:24 – Seventy weeks have been appointed upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to put an end to transgressions and an end to sins, to atone for iniquity and to bring about eternal righteousness, to seal the vision and the prophet , and to anoint the Holy of Holies.

The word “fixed” means,…[Read more]

Mike 
John 1:3 give the answer
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 
HIM = THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD

Is Daniel 9:24-27 about Jesus?

Like I said, I speak of one YHVH who is two persons, not two persons who are of different YHVH families. There is one family of YHVH. The Father and His Son are the two members with eternal and divine essence. Do you think that Proclaimer and Mike don’t believe that there is a family of YHVH?

Hi Sis Kathi, thanks for your reply to my post. Sorry I…[Read more]

Danny

The Son of God share the divine NAME OF His FATHER: YHWH

BECAUSE THE SON IS OF THE SAME SUBSTANCE AS THE FATHER

Who being(the Son) the brightness of his glory, and the EXPRESS image of his PERSON(substance), and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty…[Read more]

@Lightenup

Hi LU,

If Jesus is Yahweh, then that would contradict Isaiah 45:5.

“I am Yahweh, and there is no one else.
Besides me, there is no God.” Isaiah 45:5

The Bible is a harmony.
So Hebrews 1 has to fit with Isaiah 45:5

If you disagree, then please tell me who is speaking in Isaiah 45:5?
If you say the Father and the Son together, then…[Read more]

LU: Paul understands the Father is also our “kurios” Lord, and Paul understands that Jesus is also our theos. In the context of 1 Cor 8:6, Paul is identifying two persons who are our God and Lord. In the NT when the context is speaking about the Father and the Son, they are typically distinguished as God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Tha…

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@t8

Hi Proclaimer,

I finally got it.
God is not a nature. He is an identity.
Thanks for making that clear.
It’s very hard to think clear sometimes because of
the things we were being indoctrinated in our past.

LU: Prov 8

22Jehovah possessed me — the beginning of His way, Before His works since then.

23From the age I was anointed, from the first, From former states of the earth.

24In there being no depths, I was brought forth, In there being no fountains heavy waters,

25Before mountains were sunk, Before heights, I was brought forth.

1.  You admit…

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LU:   …the Hebrew wouldn’t put an ‘s after a family name. So Flintstone’s is the English way of including the whole family with the last name of Flintstone but not the Hebrew way. 

Really? So because we use an “s”, while the Hebrews used an “im” or “oth” suffix to denote plurality, the case is solved?  Come on now, Kathi.  Let’s try this again…[Read more]