Mike: The One who is in a position to PUT all things under the other one is the One who is the most powerful.

Carmel:  the above is only human reasoning!

YOU: As opposed to what?  Do you possess some sort of non-human reasoning capabilities of which we are not aware?

AND HOW! ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO DISCUSS THE TRUTH OF JESUS OF WHICH IT’S N…[Read more]

Berean:  This is its human origin that nobody here ignores …. But you put aside its divine origin to your disadvantage because if you believed it would open the horizon for you ….

For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. (John 6:38)

Very well said!  I have tried to say the same to Gene and Jodi befor…[Read more]

Mike: The other one will never have as much power as the One who put all things under him.

 

Carmel: NOT PERFECT THIS TIME, IN FACT IT’S A LIE!

I guess we’d better consult our resident “Peacekeeper of the Forum” about this one.

Hey @Proclaimer, Carmel disagrees with a statement I made.  He doesn’t personally consider my statement to be ac…[Read more]

Mike:  The One who is in a position to PUT all things under the other one is the One who is the most powerful. 

 

Carmel:  PERFECT Mike! FROM A HUMAN’S POINT OF VIEW!

We are both human, and therefore only have a human’s point of view.  Even if an angel came to you and prophesied some future event, you would only be able to understand it from…[Read more]

LU: Gene,

The Hebrew word adonai is not found in Psalm110:1.

Gene, Kathi is right about this.  The Hebrew word that English translators render as “LORD” with all caps is what’s known as the tetragrammaton – the four Hebrew consonants that Hebrew writers used in place of the personal and proper name of the Most High God.  Those consonants tr…[Read more]

LU: This is my paraphrase for more clarity:

A PSALM OF DAVID. A declaration of YHWH to my Lord, YHWH our Righteousness,: “Sit at My right hand, Until I make Your enemies Your footstool.”

Your paraphrase provides confusion, not clarity.

LU: Jeremiah 23

5Behold, the days come, says Yahweh, that I will raise to David a righteous Branch, and he sh…

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LU:  Agreed. The Father is greater than the Son because the Father as in a father/son relationship naturally has authority over his son. However the father and son would be equal in the type of being that they are.

But Jesus’ God and Father is also our God and Father, right?  We are also His children, who were created in His likeness, right? Yet w…[Read more]

Mystery of Free will…

Adam……… Yes Cyrus was a anointed servant of God, Just as Moses, all the prophets and yes even Jesus, they were all human servants of God, led by his Holy Spirit , to do his will. They were all human beings.
Our difference I believe, is you no longer believe Jesus was the Messiah, that was prophesied to come, I believe scripture shows he ce…[Read more]

Adam…..Question,  was King Cyrus from above,  was  he caused to be by God,  after all,  he was “prophesied” by God over 200 years before his berth, God even named him right? ,  so did he come from God , was he even sent  by God ?  Or did God  have anything to do with it at all?, I believe he both was from above and sent from above,  the same thin…

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Hi To all

HOW DOES ONE WALK AFTER THE SPIRIT AND NOT THE FLESH? PT. 2
Daily Devotional

As we work toward strengthening our spiritual nature, we need to keep our focus on the things of God. “Those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit” (Ro…[Read more]

There is nothing that even SUGGESTS that “up” is a relative term in scripture. Nor is there anything in scripture that says the writers of Bible were only making stuff up about how they understood the world from their own limited perspective.  Rather, they wrote of things God Himself showed them, and often they would be speaking by God’s Holy Spi…

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What would be a better example to demonstrate that Lord (adon Strong’s 113) is not always a human ruler, Proclaimer, since you think there could be a better example?

Or that it just means ruler. And if it is God, you would define that or say YHWH.

Like the word king. There are many kings. But if you were referring to King Jesus, you would l…[Read more]

Ah… but the owner of the forest and his 24 managers don’t reside together everywhere “outside the forest”.  The owner has a throne surrounded by 24 manager thrones at one specific location outside the forest.  So if those thrones are east of your location, then you are NOT looking towards them when you look west, north, or south.  You are only l…

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Mike

That is 100% scriptural.  Amen!  But just so you know, you can eliminate “THE FATHER” from the first sentence, and it would still be 100% scriptural…

GOD IS BIGGER THAN THE SON…

Two persons.  Only one of them is THE God.  The other is THE God’s holy servant, Jesus. 

Me

The FATHER IS bigger the Son IN AGE, NOT IN GLOBAL POWER

See AGA…[Read more]

Mike

Jesus was begotten + God wasn’t begotten = Jesus can’t possibly be God.

Me

It’s as if you deny that a human son begotten by his human father, IS NOT HUMAN

THE SON OF GOD HAS INHERITED EVERYTHING FROM THE FATHER: OMNIPOTENCE
OMNISCIENCE
OMNIPRESENCE

AND THE WORD WAS “THEOS”

Mike

Jesus is not the person of God, Berean, but one of the many holy servants OF God.  This is what the scriptures teach.

Amen? 

ME

No,  not AMEN

JESUS IS: see HEBREWS1:3

Meditate on it

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purg…[Read more]

LU:  David, the writer of this Psalm 110, calls his descendant “my Lord” and is shown that his “Lord” will sit at the right hand of YHVH. The million dollar question is how is it that David calls his son “Lord?”

The question has been put to you, Gene… by Kathi AND by Jesus himself in Matt 22:45.

You say Jesus is strictly from the loins of Dav…[Read more]

Berean:  GOD THE FATHER IS BIGGER THAN THE SON IN THE SENSE THAT HE IS BEFORE THE BEGOTTEN SON.  AS A HUMAN FATHER IS BEFORE HIS CHILDREN HE BEGET.

That is 100% scriptural.  Amen!  But just so you know, you can eliminate “THE FATHER” from the first sentence, and it would still be 100% scriptural…

GOD IS BIGGER THAN THE SON…

Two per…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  It’s like saying that we live in a forest and the owner of the forest resides outside the forest. So no matter what direction you look while in the forest, you are looking toward the owners residence.

Ah… but the owner of the forest and his 24 managers don’t reside together everywhere “outside the forest”.  The owner has a thr…[Read more]