No eternal life will certainly be the case for some people.

Berean:  Yes but Satan does not have IN HIM THE ETERNAL POWER TO CREATE THE UNIVERSE, HE IS A DEPENDENT CREATURE ON GOD FOR HIS SURVIVAL.

Jesus doesn’t have that power independent of his God either.  Jesus is also a creature who is dependent on his God for survival.

Berean: IN THE BIGINNING, CHRIST HIM WAS GOD OF THE SAME SUBSTANCE OF GOD THE F…

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Adam: So where does these Christian concepts of the so called mythical eternal life or eternal salvation stand? These strange ideas of the NT writers no where visible in the Hebrew Bible.

Seems I got my answer in the very next post you made to Gene.  Okay… so no everlasting life.  How then can God’s servant David rule forever?

Adam:  The concept of (individual) resurrection was not developed in the Torah but it is visible in the Tanakh especially in the later books like Daniel.

Thanks for those four scriptures.  It’s interesting to note that the concept was not in the Torah.  But that leads me back to the question of God’s servant David, who will rule forever.  The con…[Read more]

On day 1, God created the earth with the sole intent that it would be inhabited by his crowning jewel of creation: mankind. On day 4, God created the sun as one of many lights that He placed in the firmament.

There are two options that you are not considering. Planets wander through the universe and then get caught up in gravitational fields.…[Read more]

LU:  If not, then is it remotely possible that God asexually reproduced?

Is it remotely possible that on a particular day, God begat a Son for Himself?

Psalm 2:7…  I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

God is spirit. When he works in the material, he often uses others who are composed of material.

In the case of the divine Word that was with him in the beginning, it makes sense that there is an intermediatory between God and his material creation.

If God is love, then love requires someone to love. It is because of love that anyone exists and…[Read more]

God os spirit. When he works in the material, he often uses others who are composed of material.

In the case of the divine Word that was with him in the beginning, it makes sense that there is an intermediatory between God and his material creation.

If God is love, then love requires someone to love. It is because of love that anyone exists and…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Men once thought the earth was flat and the stars were lights in a solid dome.

Men thought this because it is not only what they could experience for themselves, but also precisely how God described His own world through Moses.

Proclaimer:  Then we realised we were one planet in a solar system with other planets.

It’s true that a l…[Read more]

Berean:  SINCE GOD IS OMNIPOTENT, WHY THEN MAKE A MIRACLE FOR HIS SON TO CREATE THE UNIVERSE WHEN HE CAN EVERYTHING.
THIS THESIS DOESN’T STAND UP … (that’s my opinion)

THEN IN THE CASE ( This is what I believe)  OR GOD HAS CREATED EVERYTHING BY HIS OMNIPOTENT WORKER, WHY WOULD HE CHOOSE TO ACT SO ????

God often does things through interme…[Read more]

Gene, much of what you say in your last post is correct IMO. But your application of it misses the mark.

Adam: First you convince your Christian brothers and sisters here, on your so called convictions. Then I will understand your convictions are reasonable and based on truth.

You will never arrive at the truth with such demands.

Imagine if you ask the same question of the Pharisees and teachers of the law.

Personally I find Mike to be pretty spot…[Read more]

Mike……The number one problem here is that you and others do not understand WHAT THE WORD GOD MEANS, . “THE WORD GOD IS NEVER A REAL PERSON, It “only” means THE ,  “RELATIONSHIP” YOU HAVE,   with something,  “ANYTHING” can be Your GOD.  IT DOSENT EVEN HAVE TO BE ALIVE.  It could even be a rock , your money,  what ever it doesn’t matter what it is,…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

YOU: You teach doctrines that contradict those scriptures. 

ME: Be specific, please!

Here is MY JESUS!

WHOM SCRIPTURES PROCLAIM HIM

GODMAN:

1John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come: and he hath given us understanding that we may know the true God, and may be in his true Son.

This is the true God and life eternal.

GOD…[Read more]

Adam: First you convince your Christian brothers and sisters here, on your so called convictions. Then I will understand your convictions are reasonable and based on truth.

Would you consider it equally fair for an atheist to tell you that once you convince every single Jew on earth to agree with you on every single point of the OT, they will…[Read more]

Adam: Hi brother Gene, sorry I am not for Jesus to be a sacrificial Lamb as God never accepted Human sacrifice on the alter for redemption of sins. In fact it was an abomination to Yahweh.

Scripturally speaking, Yahweh expected every firstborn male human to be sacrificed to Him, but allowed the Israelites to redeem their own children by…[Read more]

Does God have essence or IS God essence? Can you answer that?

God shares his divine nature with his Sons, so divinity doesn’t make you God himself.

Likewise, He us the Father of Spirita, thus being a spirit doesn’t make you God

God is God because he is eternal And in the context if Sons, God is the Father.

Jesus Christ on the otherhand is…[Read more]

Adam:  I am only investigating the so called greater claims of the NT and Christianity by comparing them with their original source the Hebrew scriptures.

I’m curious to how you believe the worldwide and lasting phenomenon of Jesus came to be.

1.  A unknown craftsman from Bethlehem turns 30 and starts going around telling people he is the son o…[Read more]

Mike

Gene, YHWH is the god of gods, and therefore cannot literally be the only god. 

Me

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

This is the only TRUE GOD that is important to consider along with the Lord Jesus Christ.

Sone good replues from this page Mike. Totally agree.