So you are going to drop your argument that the writer of the Book of Revelation lifted the content from the Book of Daniel?

It doesn’t say anywhere that Daniel saw all the empires.

Many believe the empire he did see are:

Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.

You can disagree. But disagreement doesn’t change truth.

And I haven’t seen you explain why these empires are incorrect.

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Please answer my previous post.

The Egypt, Assyria, Roman and the Ottoman Empires are no where visible in Danielic visions. Please see my post on Dan 11 for more details.

It doesn’t say anywhere that Daniel saw all the empires.

Many believe the empire he did see are:

Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.

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Now to your question.
I believe 7 is right.
7. Adam and Eve are man

I would have said the following:

• Eve is adam
• Eve is man
• Adam and Eve are adam
• Adam and Eve are man

Because adam and man are the same word and Both Adam and Eve are man as is each person too.

Are you man? Yes.

Are we both man? Yes.

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Seems like more absurdity. None of the other empires or Kingdom are directly mentioned by name in either book. It is the descriptions that are important. Prophecy works like that. It is actually written like this so the wicked will not understand.

What then, in your contradictory view is the empire of iron legs that tramples and breaks the others…

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Why don’t you just admit that both your points are incompatible.

If they are compatible, then please explain how. I cannot see it.

If you admit they are not. Then which point are you going to drop so I can focus on the other point.

Thank you.

You say Revelation was lifted from the Book of Daniel. So if the head of gold in Daniel as a king is about the Babylonian kingdom with the other less glorious metals representing less glorious kingdoms, then why is Revelation not about kingdoms too.

Are you saying that it was lifted / copied, but changed so that while the king is representative…

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Hi Proclaimer,

Jesus is God by nature.
I agree with that.
But what’s then the conclusion.
Listen to what Irenaeus also said:
“Christ Jesus, our Lord, and God, and Saviour, and King, according to the will of the invisible Father.”
(Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 1.10.1.)

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So I take the internal insights written in these books and comment on them. I hope this will clear your misunderstanding on me. I tell you the book of Daniel is talking about Four Kingdoms in which there is no mention of Kingdom of Rome, of which many Jews and Christians misquote in their commentaries.

Seems like more absurdity. None of the other…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer, don’t be so quick in judging others. Please have little patience for others which will be good for your health and spirituality.

I read the texts in their original context and interpret them according to their internal meaning. The book of Daniel especially chap 2, 7 & 8 talk about the Kingdoms because the internal (textual) i…

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ADAM……That is not even close to what Jesus said would be the sign of his coming ,  it might be a somewhat accurate of what took place in the power struggles from The Grecian Empire to the Roman Empire , but it furnishes no accurate historical conclusions of what happened to the End of the Roman Empire, to now,  nor what is to take place in the f…

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Hi Miia

Hearing this guy doesn’t reassure me …. the music, his way of speaking ….
Be careful Mia, lean on the Word of God.
GOOD COURAGE IN YOUR LIFE.

have more reality and perfection than the things by which we represent them ”. The words “This is my body” do not lose but gain meaning when the literal meaning is rejected as unscriptural. (Prophecy and the Church, p. 16-18)

The moral purpose of prophecy
Chapter 4
The fundamental error of futurism
The book of Revelation was written for the Church of Jesus Christ. (See Revelation 1:11; 2: 7,11,17,29; 3: 6,13,22, etc.) and the Lord says there in the last chapter: “I, Jesus, have sent my angel for you attest to these things in the churches. (Revelation 22:16) However, d…[Read more]

To All …..something to think about,   Is begotten to you, the same as being born ?

To me it is not the Same.  Because we are begotten of God,  But not yet born, according to this.  1 John 5;18………We know that whosoever is born of God sins not , “But” , he that is “begotten ” of God keeps himself, and that wicked one touches him not.[Read more]

ADAM……That is not even close to what Jesus said would be the sign of his coming ,  it might be a somewhat accurate of what took place in the power struggles from The Grecian Empire to the Roman Empire , but it furnishes no accurate historical conclusions of what happened to the End of the Roman Empire, to now,  nor what is to take place in the f…[Read more]

@Lightenup

Hi LU,

Thanks.
You asked:

That which is begotten of the eternal One is part of the family of YHVH and is every bit a YHVH as the eternal One that begat Him.
Would you agree to that?

Yes, I agree. That’s the natural conclusion.

You also said:

That which was begotten of Elvis Presley is part of the Presley family and is every bit a…

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Hi Danny,

You posted:

Irenaeus wrote around AD 185 and mentions John 1:1 five times.
In one reference he comments, “‘and the Word was God,’ of course, for that which is begotten of God is God.”

That which is begotten of the eternal One is part of the family of YHVH and is every bit a YHVH as the eternal One that begat Him.

Would you agree t…[Read more]

@t8

Hi Proclaimer,

Jesus is God by nature.
I agree with that.
But what’s then the conclusion.
Listen to what Irenaeus also said:
“Christ Jesus, our Lord, and God, and Saviour, and King, according to the will of the invisible Father.”
(Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 1.10.1.)
Is Jesus Christ your God?

Now to your question.
I believe 7 is right.
7.…[Read more]

Adam…..Out of The kingdom of Alexander the Great, came four, his kingdom was divided up and Given to his Four Generals,  and out of theses four Generals came the Roman Empire.  Which is the fourth World ruling kingdom mention in Daniel , and from this fourth kingdom came the fifth world ruling Kingdoms,  what is the present state of this worl…

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