Mike: Jesus is no longer a man, since flesh cannot see, enter or inherit the kingdom of heaven. 

Carmel: NO Mike you are not precise, NOT FLESH, but

FLESH AND BLOOD CANNOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD!

It’s called in scripture “flesh and blood” and “flesh and bone”.  Both phrases mean what “flesh and blood” means to us today when talking about a…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

Jesus and His Father are both deity not just divine.

I believe this is what John 1:1 teaches.
“what God was, the Word was”

Clearly in your own post you have distinguished two. God and Jesus. That is good as the scriptures do this too.

Regardless of what the difference between deity and divinity is, you subconsciously or not rec…[Read more]

Berean: Mike

Astonishing the energy you deploy to resist against the truth …..

It doesn’t take that much energy to present you with the truth, Berean.  I will, however, take your comment to mean:  “Mike, I can’t actually refute the things you said in your last post, so I’ll just make a baseless claim that you are arguing against trut…[Read more]

Every living thing that has ever been begotten was a new creation.  So always keep in mind that it isn’t any scripture, but merely your own personal desire that leads you to believe that Jesus is the only exception to that rule.

The rule is that there was nothing made that wasn’t made through the Logos.

And who is the Logos?

He came directly fr…[Read more]

I believe the following is correct:

The Son is theos

The Son is god

The Father and the Son are theos

The Father and the Son are god.

The Father is not the Son.

Two persons are theos.

Two persons are god.

There is one god.

Two persons act together as one god.

For us, there is one God, the Father.

For you there is one God, the Father and…[Read more]

LU: I believe the Father and Son are identical in every way possible except one was begotten as the only begotten (the Son), and the other (the Father) was the begetter. The Father was never begotten.

The angels were not asexually reproduced from the Father. It was through the Son that angels were created, not begotten.

Every living thing that…[Read more]

Danny and Berean,

The three of us are agreeing on both the Father and Son being deity and identified as YHVH, correct?

Hi Gene,

You wrote:

To All …..something to think about,   Is begotten to you, the same as being born ?

To me it is not the Same.  Because we are begotten of God,  But not yet born, according to this.  1 John 5;18………We know that whosoever is born of God sins not , “But” , he that is “begotten ” of God keeps himself, and that wicked one touches h…

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Proclaimer you wrote to Danny:

I would have said the following were correct:

Eve is adam
Eve is man
Adam and Eve are adam
Adam and Eve are man

I believe the following is correct:

The Son is theos

The Son is god

The Father and the Son are theos

The Father and the Son are god.

The Father is not the Son.

Two persons are theos.

Two persons are…[Read more]

Hi Danny,

You wrote:

Jesus and His Father are both deity not just divine.

I believe this is what John 1:1 teaches.
“what God was, the Word was”

The terms “divinity” and “deity” can be confusing. In most cases the terms have identical meanings.
However, some have used “divine” to refer to an angel, since it came from God.
However, a…

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Hi Gene,

YOU: Carmel……….By the Spirit of Truth Given us , by God our Father. Just as it says,   “brethren , you have no need of a teacher,  for the spirit of truth,  “itself”, will teach you all things”. 

Sorry, but thats how I know what your saying is not the truth Carmel.

ME: Honestly speaking, Gene, I don’t know what the hell are you talki…[Read more]

I’m glad you agree, Berean.

AMEN Danny !☀️

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Hi Proclaimer,

Jesus and His Father are both deity not just divine.

I believe this is what John 1:1 teaches.
“what God was, the Word was”

The terms “divinity” and “deity” can be confusing. In most cases the terms have identical meanings.
However, some have used “divine” to refer to an angel, since it came from God.
However, an angel would…[Read more]

Rectification
The moral purpose of prophecy
Chapter 5
Other futuristic falsehoods

Adherence to the principle that prophecies that are written in terminology relating to “Israel” are to be fulfilled literally in relation to literal Jews postpones their fulfillment to some time in the future. Thus, because prophecies cannot be said to have already…[Read more]

Le but moral de la prophétie
Chapitre 5
Autres mensonges futuristes

L’adhésion au principe selon lequel les prophéties écrites dans la terminologie relative à “Israël” doivent être accomplies littéralement par rapport aux Juifs littéraux reporte leur accomplissement à un certain temps dans le futur. Ainsi, parce que les prophéties ne peuvent…[Read more]

So there you have it Adam. The seven mountains are seven kingdoms

A mountain can mean so many things but we have to see what the writer intended us to infer. Rev 17:9-10 talks about ‘Heads=Mountains=Kings’

Rev 17:

9 “This calls for a mind that has wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated; also, they are seven kings…

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So there you have it Adam. The seven mountains are seven kingdoms.

I think we can put this one to bed now Adam.

Do you want me to debunk your other conflicting argument that Revelation was a scam that was lifted from the Book of Daniel? Or have you given up on that now?

Again you are misquoting my post on Daniel. Please read my posts on Dan 2, 7…[Read more]

One theory among many.

It doesn’t tick many if any boxes.

Do you have any other theories you want to propose or quote?

Most see the seven successive empires of history in that part of the world.

It fits nicely and of course would not have been an option for many who lived before this history or part of it.

Hi Proclaimer, yes there are plenty o…[Read more]