Mike……you mistranslated the text,  it says this…..” whosoever is “born’” of God sins not,  but whosoever is “begotten” of God “keeps” himself,  and the evil one touches hm not.

This shows that being begotten of God, does not mean “BORN” of God >

Jesus was the first to be , begotten and born of God,  from the human race,  is the way I take it.  I…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  The word ‘theos’ was applied to judges after all.

The rest of your post to Danny was spot on.  This part is erroneous.  The word “god” in scripture is used of actual gods (spirit sons of the Most High God) and of idols that sometimes represented one of those actual gods, and other times were made by men who for some reason believ…[Read more]

Mike

Michah 5:2 Say

But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

The origin of Jesus thus goes back to the times of eternity, and it is therefore BEFORE ANYTHING WAS…[Read more]

Gene:  we are begotten of God…  according to… 1 John 5:18

Well done, Gene.

1 John 5 American Standard Version
1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is begotten of God: and whosoever loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

4 For whosoever is begotten of God overcometh the world

18 We know that whosoever is bego…[Read more]

Gadam

I believe that Christ will return before the Millennium, that is, before his literal 1,000 year reign IN HEAVEN (NOT ON EARTH) I am not Futurist. Please go to the thread I posted: The moral purpose of prophecy
Chapter 4
The fundamental error of futurism: SEPTEMBER 2, 2021 AT 8:26 AM # 873277

You Can also read :

5. Other futuristic…[Read more]

@mikeboll64

Hi Mike,

You said that Jesus was created.

You are wrong.
Jesus was not created but begotten.
He is in fact the only begotten Son of the Father, and as such,
He has the same essential nature as His Father.
This means that Jesus is also deity—God.

LU: That which is begotten of the eternal One is part of the family of YHVH and is every bit a YHVH as the eternal One that begat Him.

Would you agree to that?

That which was begotten of Elvis Presley is part of the Presley family and is every bit a Presley as Elvis.  Makes sense?

So now “YHVH” is God’s last name?  How about we try your an…[Read more]

Berean: We still have to agree on what “God in nature” means ….. because if in the end, we do not believe that Christ, the divine and unique SON OF GOD, BEGOTTEN IN ETERNITY, DOES NOT HAVE IN HIMSELF THE ATTRIBUTES OF HIS FATHER: OMNIPOTENCE, OMNIPRESENCE, OMNISCIENCE, HE IS NOT THEN THE OWN SON OF GOD DESCRIBED IN HEBREWS 1: 3
…. Who being TH…

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Proclaimer:  But God and god in English doesn’t really work because we think big God and little or false god so now you have two or more Gods / gods.

You get so close every time, but then fizzle out for personal reasons.  You told me that you refuse to speak the scriptural truth that Jesus is a god because you believe it will cause others to stu…[Read more]

Dispensationalists have been deceived by Jesuit teachings, sad to say …

The true Temple is in HEAVEN WHERE JESUS ​​STANDS AT THE RIGHT OF GOD AS SOVEREIGN SACRIFICATOR … (PRIEST)

Hi Berean, thanks for your reply to my post. I just wanted to ask you whether you are Futurist premillennist?

Carmel: EXPLAIN PLEASE HOW YOU DETERMINE SOMETHING TRUE ON THIS PLANET!

Explain please about this “planet” thing of which you speak.  Where can I read about it in the scriptures?  How did you determine the truth about it?

Mike: Why would “God” give a revelation about coming events to “God”?  Wouldn’t “God” already know about these things?

Carmel: I REPEAT IT FOR YOU:

WHY WOULD “GOD” …………

THAT WILL DO Mike, 

CAN YOU SEE MY DOCTRINE, Mike?

Odd response.  Okay, now just answer the question for real.  Thanks.

Proclaimer: How about it Mike.

David told us that the sun runs a circuit over the face of the earth, from one end of the heaven to the other.  Was David lying to us?  Yes or No?

Danny:  Irenaeus understood Jesus as more than “a god” or a divine being of a sort.
He referred to Jesus as God.
Let me repeat what Irenaeus said:
“‘and the Word was God,’ of course, for that which is begotten of God is God.”

Hi Danny.  Irenaeus was Greek and wrote in the same Greek language that the NT was written in.  He did not use capital le…[Read more]

Gadam

Christian Dispensationalists believe that Ezekiel’s temple is to be built in the future “during the earthly millennial kingdom.” If this is true, then why is there no mention of a temple in Revelation 20? In fact, Revelation 20 says nothing about Jesus reigning on the earth, David’s throne being set up and Jesus sitting on it, animal…[Read more]

Gene:  But to us true believers like Jesus and myself, and those that are true , we “ONLY” HAVE “ONE” GOD that is a True God to us, and there is no other GOD TO US.

Hi Gene.

1 Cor 8:5-6…  Truly even if indeed there are those called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, as there are many gods and many lords, yet to us there is one God the Father,…[Read more]

Will Ezekiel’s Temple Be Built?

This brings us to the visionary temple described in Ezekiel. Keep in mind that the so-called tribulation
temple, as Christian Dispensationalists describe it, is not Ezekiel’s temple. Dispensationalists actually require that two temples must be built, one during the tribulation period and one during their ver…[Read more]

Gene

I do not leave God thé Father out if every things…

The truth IS Heart:

The Revelation of Jesus Christ,

which God gave unto him,

to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;

and he sent and signified it by his angel  (Gabriel, like for Daniel)

unto his servant John:

 Who bare record of the word of God, and of…[Read more]

Proclaimer,  in a sense? ,  he is either your GOD , or Not !

You  seem like being a fence walker.  Not hot nor cold.  Remember what Jesus said to the Church of Ephesus.  Rev 2:4

“but unto us “true believers”  there is but “ONE” GOD, and one mediator between GOD and men,  “THE MAN”  Jesus Christ .  

proclaimer , there are “NO” “small” GOD’S. [Read more]

Hi Proclaimer
You
Many say that the Ottoman Empire for example cannot be the seventh king after the sixth which we know is Rome. They cite that it was not a significant empire. How wrong they are. It ruled for centuries over the Middle East and great parts of Europe. It wasn’t any less than any other empire (head) before it.
The belief that t…[Read more]