Proclaimer: Good point. However, the other point here is he is begotten not created.👍

Actually, the point is that we are also begotten of God – just as Jesus is.  And even though John said we are begotten children of God, we were CREATED.

The point that you seem to be missing is that any living thing that was begotten is automatically a new…[Read more]

@Lightenup

Hi LU,

You said:

I believe the Son is the only begotten literal son of God. I have been saying that for 28+ years. Jesus is begotten, not created. A created son would not be a literal son.

Yes. I believe that too.

 The moral purpose of prophecy

CHAPTER 8
JESUS IS REIGNING NOW!

The Scriptures make it plain that the prophecies concerning the reign of David’s Son were to be fulfilled by His death and resurrection. (See Acts 2:29, 32; 13:22-24, 32-34; Rom. 1:4; 2 Tim. 2:8.) Paul preached the kingdom of God and of Christ as’ a then reality, into which every…[Read more]

Adam…….What you said does not make sense to me brother,  what Moses said about Jesus is true and also what John said is true to. I see no disagreements at all there.

peace and love to you and yours……..gene

Mike…..I join your prayer, for Carmel brother. I believe Satan has really been screwing with him.  I call on  the LORD our GOD,  TO REBUCK Satan and cast him away from CARMEL, in the name of Jesus Christ our lord. 

peace and love to you and yours……..gene

Proclaimer: True. It is a ridiculous idea to think that Jesus is God because he was begotten by God. You can say he is divine or shares attributes of his Father. But he is not equal to the Father.

“You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father…

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Carmel:  JESUS IS THE FIRSTBORN OF LUCIFER!

IN THE BEGINNING (LUCIFER) WAS “THE WORD”

First you post “Satan’s Dream”, and now this crap?  I am now convinced that the one you say talks to you is Satan, and not Jesus.

Father in heaven, please free Carmel from the hold of the evil one.  Satan has apparently masqueraded as your holy servant Jesus,…

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JESUS IS THAT “PROPHET”, Moses spoke about,   NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

Hi brother Gene, if Jesus was a prophet like Moses we need not believe in him or know him for getting the eternal life as claimed by the Fourth Gospel in John 17:3.

Carmel: Now read again:

Rev 1:1… The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him…..

In the above PHRASE:

WHICH GOD GAVE HIM means

THE TITLE OF
THE GOD AND FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST,

THE ONLY BEING EMPOWERED BOTH WITH 

ALL GOD’S THINGS AND ALL HUMAN THINGS,

GODMAN! 
GAVE HIM, JESUS CHRIST, ALL AUTHORITIES AND POWERS….. …

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John 18:37

Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king.
To this end was I born(Gennao), and for this cause came I into the world,
that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

was I born(gennao)

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gennao
ghen-nah’-o
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Adam……..The Lord shall raise up unto you, a “prophet”  like me, from your brethren,  “unto him shall you head” . Moses was a Messiah , just like Jesus, and was from Israel to, but what did Moses say we should we do?, ” unto “him” shall you head”.   Jesus is that “prophet”  you will do good to listen to him.  No matter what those critical J…[Read more]

Gadam

this is the dialogue often quoted here on this Forum. Believing in a human Messiah for securing the so called eternal life is no where found in the Hebrew Bible. This is the new invention of the writer of the Fourth Gospel.

Me

Certainly not, John knew that the Son of God was God in the beginning and that he was made flesh. This is…[Read more]

LU………The word “born”  is not the same as “begotten” ,  as I recall,  

To be begotten,  is the process to being born, that happens at conception ,  when we received the Holy Spirit into us we are begotten , when we are resurrected we are then Born.  Jesus was the first to be begotten, of God himself from mankind, and then at his resurrection…[Read more]

Why do you people constantly want to make Jesus different then we are, haven’t you ever read, “God is not a respecter of persons”. & “God in “all” and through “all”. When are you really going to start to believe Jesus when he said this?,  ” this “is” eternal life,  that they might know “YOU” the “ONLY” “TRUE”  GOD, and Jesus Christ who “YOU” HAV…

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Berean…….All creation has the attributes of God in it.  His Seven Spirits,  go out into all the earth.
Why do you people constantly want to make Jesus different then we are, haven’t you ever read, “God is not a respecter of persons”. & “God in “all” and through “all”. When are you really going to start to believe Jesus?,  ” this “is” eternal l…[Read more]

The vaccine is not the Mark of the Beast
It would be cruel beyond question for the mark of the beast to be a vaccine or administered via  a vaccine during a world wide pandemic. Knowing that you cannot be saved if you have the mark and then making it a vaccine is not a reasonable argument for being thrown into Hell.

A mark is a sign of…

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In New Zealand, we are winning the battle against Delta.

But we have a low amount of vaccinated people.

I am on my first shot.

So far so good for me. No side effects.

It’s good to know that. Please advise people to take Vaccine without any fear. My whole family got Two shots and they are safe.

Proclaimer

You

Google this:

What is the great sea? 

Me

Daniel 7

In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.
Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the…[Read more]

Proclaimer

If you believe that Jesus is the God spoken of in the Bible, then you must be wilfully blind.

No Proclaimer, I BELEIVE THAT THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD AND JESUS HIS BEGOTTEN AND BELOVED SON.

WHAT YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE SON HAS ALL THE ATTRIBUTES OF HIS FATHER. AND THEREFORE HE HAS IN HIS DIVINITY THE OMNIPOTENCE, THE…[Read more]

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WHO ARE THE 144,000 MENTIONED IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION? PART 1
Daily Devotional

During the time of Jesus’ first coming, the 12 apostles were a type of “Special Forces.” After three and-a-half years of intensive personal training with Jesus, the disciples were used by God to achieve great victories. They penetrated Satan’s dominio…[Read more]