@Gene,

You are free to believe whatever you want, makes no difference to me; but, can you prove the Jesus is the “root and offspring” of David and Solomon with the Tanakh? Can you prove the Jesus is the true Messiah (link 946290 when and how will the Jesus accomplish what is listed)?

Again, Luke traces the Jesus’ lineage thru David’s son Nat…[Read more]

DT……Jesus said “not’ me,……“I am”, “the root and offspring of DAVID”,  You,  either believe him or not, I choose to believe him.

peace and love to you and yours DT………gene

@Jodi,

Me: Are you saying the spirit took sperm from Joseph and planted it into Mary thru artificial insemination? Can you back that up with evidence? It sounds more like speculation and justification than a truth; in all my years in the church I have never heard this scenario.

You: I can understand that this is something you’ve not heard of…[Read more]

Hi DT,

30 Thus says Yahweh: “Record this man as childless, a man who will not succeed in his days, for no man from his offspring will succeed him, sitting on the throne of David and ruling again in Judah.”

YOU: No where in the passage does it state Jeconiah was childless; in fact he’s recorded as having children HOWEVER, he was to be remem…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU: Are you saying the spirit took sperm from Joseph and planted it into Mary thru artificial insemination? Can you back that up with evidence? It sounds more like speculation and justification than a truth; in all my years in the church I have never heard this scenario.

ME: I can understand that this is something you’ve not heard of…[Read more]

@Jodi,

I know I have posted the Jeremiah passage before, but let’s do it again and see if we can clear up some confusion.

30 Thus says Yahweh: “Record this man as childless, a man who will not succeed in his days, for no man from his offspring will succeed him, sitting on the throne of David and ruling again in Judah.”

No where in the passa…[Read more]

@Jodi

You: It is NOT the Spirit that Fathered Jesus, it is the Spirit by it’s power that impregnated Mary with a biological son of Joseph.

Me: Are you saying the spirit took sperm from Joseph and planted it into Mary thru artificial insemination? Can you back that up with evidence? It sounds more like speculation and justification than a truth;…[Read more]

Hi DT,

God says the curse is lifted by the written text that clearly spells out for you that it was.

Was he recorded as childless? uh no very much the opposite.

Did his offspring not prosper? uh no very much the opposite, his own grandson became a governor over Judah and God said unto him, ” “I will make you like my signet ring, for I have c…[Read more]

DT,

I know you don’t believe in a godman, that is obvious you’ve made that very clear,  but you seem to believe that the NT teaches in one and you debate with people on here that assert such to indeed be true. I am here to prove it doesn’t. Thought you’d have that level of insight.

DT,

You: The “holy spirit” is the one who impregnated Mary; could you please explain how exactly the “spirit” is “genetically” connected to David and Solomon. To be “genetically” connected to someone, one must be a descendant of them and while we can claim Joseph is “biologically” connected to Solomon; one cannot say the Jesus is because it was t…[Read more]

@Jodi,

In your post #946585 you make an unprovable claim the spirit used “in vivo” fertilization to impregnate Mary. Is there any evidence, other than speculation, to support what you said?

You also mentioned “‘almah’ is to be a virgin period”, I think you need to go back and research that again because you appear to have missed something.…[Read more]

@Jodi,

Please quote the passage where the curse from Jeremiah was lifted from Jeconiah. To use Zerubbabel as your “proof” the curse was lifted is utterly false because he never served as KING, he was appointed governor and thus was under the ruling king. God never said Jeconiah’s descendants would never succeed for HIS purpose; HE said they would…[Read more]

@Jodi,

You say in post #946575 that you “believe” God planned dual fulfillment’s; BUT, when did God say any prophecy had a “dual purpose”? I’ve never read that anywhere in the Tanakh; sounds like it was created by man to justify their religion.

@Jodi,

You: Read Matthew 1 carefully! He is specifically stating that he is giving us the genetic lineage of Jesus for the purpose to show how he is biologically a son of Abraham and David.

Me: Except Matthew states “18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came t…[Read more]

Hi all

A DEW

I will be like dew to Israel, and it will blossom like a lily, and it will put forth roots like Lebanon. (Hosea 14:5)

Of innumerable lessons concerning the various processes of plant growth, some of the most important are set forth in the Savior’s parable of the seed…

The seed contains a germ, a principle of life that God…[Read more]

Hi all

God bless

God bless

Thank you Gene!

DT,

Let me clarify my position regarding the conception of Jesus.

Matthew tells us that Jesus is a biological son of Abraham and David through Joseph, we know this because Matthew specifically uses the words GENESIS (a book of one’s LINEAGE, ORIGIN) and the word GENEA (the successive members of a GENEALOGY).

Mary, a young woman…[Read more]

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