Hi Mike,

YOU: Actually, I’m declaring that Jesus is neither “God”, nor “mankind”.  He is the mediator BETWEEN those two parties. 

No mediator can BE one of the parties that he mediates BETWEEN.

ME: PERFECT Mike!

JESUS IS NEITHER ONE NOR THE OTHER, TO BE CLEAR,

JESUS IS NEITHER  GOD, NOR MAN, BUT
BOTH! 
BOTH VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE!  T…[Read more]

Hi Mike

Prov 8:22…  Yahweh created me as the first of His works…

ME: The above translation is the least popular of all translations!

But let’s see what this verse actually says!

First and foremost JESUS IS A PERFECT PARADOX!
Thus Jesus is both created and not created!
the fact that all is created by him, in him, and for him!

Mike, We have…[Read more]

God bless

Gadam;  You show a sad lack of understanding as to who are the true Israelites of God.

Look at Galatians 3:26-29 and 6:14-16     WE Christians are the Overcomers for God, literally His Israel.

The current inhabitants of thr holy Land will be uprooted, Jeremiah 12:14. Only a remnant will survive. Isaiah 29:1-4, Romans 9:27

Adam:  And there is no proof that God created these gods (or angels) which you claim as immortals.

Adam, you didn’t actually SAY anything in that post.  You quoted some source that opines that Yahweh is talking to human rulers in Psalm 82.  That’s utterly nonsensical, and we can delve deeper into that if you’d like.

For now, the answer to the ab…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

The statement “today I have begotten you” is not said after Jesus’ baptism. That was said on the resurrection day. Jesus was begotten from the dead and thus firstborn from the dead. Clearly though, the Father was Jesus’ father before the resurrection day.

LU

Mike

Jesus named” the Word” BY John was GOD in The BIGINNING…

Paul Wrote : he IS before all THINGS

All THINGS IS all THINGS CREATED

Jesus IS not a THING CREATED because HE IS BEFORE ALL THINGS CREATED
and by him all things consist.
 

In Hebrews 1:3  Paul Wrote

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and…[Read more]

Gene:  Mike……….Jesus was not telling them they were Gods ,   He meant that in a “possessive” sense.

Are you talking about Psalm 82?  If so, that was Yahweh (not Jesus) assembling with a bunch of other gods (as He did in Job 1:6) and passing judgement of some of those gods for not attending to mankind the way He told them to.

Adam:  Again you are struck at Jesus’ miracles to prove him as Jewish Messiah. I have already stated in my post that miracles and healings can not make anyone King Messiah. I do not make anyone a liar as you are so much interested in that word.

There are only 3 possibilities, Adam…

1.  Jesus was indeed the prophesied Messiah, and God did mir…[Read more]

Adam:  We can only speak of God metaphorically, as for example, “mouth of God” (2 Chronicles 35:22), “the eye of the Lord” (Psalms 33:18), “the ears of God” (2 Samuel 22:7), and the like. It is in a similar metaphorical sense that the verse speaks of the son of God…

The first argument that your source makes is that it is a metaphorical…[Read more]

Mike…..All things came from heaven, that exists on this earth even us.  Jesus was even set from Heaven, and was the one who came to us from God, that was his  destiny before he ever existed, even we are too. Is that not where the throng of God is.  Yes Jesus was the bread of Life “sent”  from heaven.  Jesus said even his disciples  were from ab…[Read more]

LU:  Mike, did you realize that the day that was said is told us in the NT? Do you know when?

I realize that the statement is repeated in the NT after Jesus’ baptism.  But I’m not aware of the NT telling us when the statement was originally uttered.

Mike:  Acts 2:22… Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.

And in the verse I quoted, you have the direct answer to one of the questions I’ve been asking you for a month. The answer is YES, God is the one…

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Mike: But while I have you here, notice that the scripture you posted clearly identifies “the man who gave himself as a ransom” as someone OTHER THAN “God”. 

Carmel: YES DEFINITELY!!! 

So you agree that Jesus is someone OTHER THAN God?  Great.

Adam:  God is not a human as per the Hebrew Bible and an immortal can not become a mortal.

Mike: This is from the OT…

Psalm 82:1, 6-7…  God presides in the assembly of gods; among the gods He renders judgement…

“I have called you gods; you are all sons of the Most High.  But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.…

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Carmel: Mike I left it for you SO YOU COMMIT YOURSELF AND DECLARE  THAT JESUS IS  RIGHT NOW, BETWEEN GOD and MEN!

Yes… Jesus is the mediator BETWEEN God and mankind.

Carmel:  THUS YOU SIMPLY ARE DECLARING THAT JESUS IS SOMEONE UNIQUE WHO IS GOD FROM ONE SIDE, and, MAN FROM THE OTHER SIDE…

Actually, I’m declaring that Jesus is neither “Go…[Read more]

Mike……….Jesus was not telling them they were Gods ,   He meant that in a “possessive” sense. They and we are God’s  children  his son’s and daughters ,  and therefore we all “BELONG”, to him.  Otherwise that would make Jesus a liar, when he said this.

“this is eternal life, that they might know “YOU” the “ONLY” TRUE GOD.”..

So you either believ…[Read more]

Carmel:  Lucifer was the first creature ever created in the image of God…

Jesus was the first creature ever created in the image of God.

Prov 8:22…  Yahweh created me as the first of His works…

Micah 5:2… His origin is from days of old, ancient times…

Col 1:15…  He is the firstborn of every creature…

Rev 3:14… I am the be…[Read more]

Let me ask again…  Since Jesus is recorded as SAYING he is the Messiah prophesied about in the OT, and since Jesus was a man through whom God did miracles and healings, then we either have a case of God performing miracles through a LIAR – or a case of God never performing miracles through Jesus at all.

Which is it?

Hi Mike, thanks again for your…[Read more]

Gene:  No where does say , by a being “morphed” into a human body was our sins atoned for.

Gene, you’ve been shown here a thousand times that this statement is 100% inaccurate.  We all understand that you don’t want to accept everything the scriptures teach about Jesus – but your claim that the scriptures don’t teach those things is blata…[Read more]