GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
Mike……Something to consider, remember it says ” in “The” beginning’ , right , so the “definite article (the) ” indicates a “particular”, beginning, ” not necessarily specific to the “only” beginning of things on this earth, but a new “kind” of beginning, remember God destroyed this earth once after that beginning with water again , which he…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Jesus’ Second Coming and the Counterfeit! in the forum Prophecy 4 years, 8 months ago
Don’t worry nothing is going to end in the near future.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
Read the text for yourself.
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep,
The next verses follow after the word ‘now’. When the planet was in darkness and covered in water.
What is the point in listening to the gap theory or not when all you have to…[Read more]
gadam123 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
But the final nail in the coffin for the gap theory is the Sabbath (Ex 31:17). The Israelite Sabbath is derived DIRECTLY from the fact that God created the heaven, the earth, and everything in them in six days, and then rested on the seventh. If these weren’t literal 24 hour days, then there is no reason whatsoever for the Sabbath to fall on the s…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
Does not scripture say, that God will once again make, ” all thing new” , a new heaven and earth.
to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.
Two takeaways from this verse.
- There are many ages.
- Jesus Christ is Lord in all of them.
Lightenup replied to the topic Understanding Greek Grammar Brings Clarity in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 4 years, 8 months ago
@Proclaimer @Gene @mikeboll64 and anyone else that cares to answer.
The question was:
Do you believe that John 1:18 in the NASB 1995 refers to Jesus as the only begotten God?
Everyone here that responded agree that John 1:18 in the NASB 1995 refers to Jesus as the only begotten God.
That’s great. We agree on something.
If the NASB 1995 is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
Mike, if you are going to beleive that every mention of day Yom is exactly 12 or 24 hours in length, then don;t stop there. You also have to believe that the Roman empire conquered China and Australia because it says that it trampled the whole earth.
But to any sensible person, they would see that you are imposing your thinking onto the scripture…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
There is no break in the statement between verse 2 and verse 3 that allows for millions or billions of years to go by in between, like the proponents of the so-called “gap theory” suggest.
There are two major problems with your statement here. Let’s read the first 5 verses first.
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Now the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
Also, what the freak are you trying to say here? Are you saying that we, as Bible-believing Christians, should LIE about Genesis 1 so that we can convert other people into that LIE?
Read this slowly. If there are multiple ways to understand a bible verse and one agrees with science or has a second witness, then it is foolish to write if off…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
The ONLY reason you have to even consider such a thing is that the Bible’s account doesn’t align with Scientism’s account.
Truth can be gained from revelation and science.
If one doesn’t agree with the other, then you need to investigate.
As it turns out, they do agree if you read the scriptures without imposing your limited view.
Despite that,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
The Bible says that the earth was formed FROM water.
In 2015, a new volcano came out from water.
So it is made of water according to Mike.
Lol.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
Those are words of uncertainty from a person who is battling within himself as he tries to decide whether the Bible or Scientism is the ultimate authority.
Or someone being wise and not making absolute statements where they cannot be warranted.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Understanding Greek Grammar Brings Clarity in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 4 years, 8 months ago
LU: Do you believe that John 1:18 in the NASB 1995 refers to Jesus as the only begotten God?
Yes. Jesus is one of myriads of gods in the scriptures. His and our God, Yahweh, is the Most High God of all the other gods. Jesus, as God’s first creation, is the second most high god – and called the only-begotten god in the bosom of the Father beca…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Understanding Greek Grammar Brings Clarity in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 4 years, 8 months ago
Proclaimer: If Greek text was talking about a river that was not named or identified, it would still use the definite article. John 1:1c doesn’t use the definite article.
Like I said, your copy and paste didn’t address my point – and still doesn’t. Let me give you a couple of examples.
Acts 28:5-6… But Paul shook the creature off into the fir…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
Carmel: I did ask how many morning stars are there mentioned throughout the entire scripture, didn’t I?
I don’t know. I usually only skim your posts until I can find one semi-rational statement that can be answered by scripture, and then I address that statement without reading the rest of your incoherent drivel.
Scripture does not tell us the…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
It doesn’t get much simpler than that, Berean. God’s people are to work for six literal days and rest on the seventh… BECAUSE in six days Yahweh made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all that is in them – and rested on the seventh day.
👍🙏
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
Gene: I agree with Proclaimer on this, Because it does give the idea that the heavens and earth did already exist at the time of the beginning of this creation on earth.
Gene, the Bible’s very first sentence says that in the beginning, God created the heavens AND the earth, right? BIG SCIENCE says that the heavens were already in existence fo…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
Berean: REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY, TO KEEP IT HOLY.
SIX DAYS SHALT THOU LABOUR, AND DO ALL THY WORK…
FOR IN SIX DAYS THE LORD MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH, THE SEA, AND ALL THAT IN THEM IS, AND RESTED THE SEVENTH DAY.It doesn’t get much simpler than that, Berean. God’s people are to work for six literal days and rest on the seventh… BECAUSE in…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: How do you know if God did not destroy life on this earth by water before,
Me: Gene, unaware of you simply mentioned the truth more or less for the simple reason that if you read
Psalm 18:1-20 HEREUNDER, it clearly and literally reveals that the first world of Genesis 1:1 was in the truth flooded alright, but not by God but by…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 8 months ago
Berean: I BELIEVE THAT THE DAYS MENTIONED IN GENESIS 1 INCLUDE 24-HOUR DAYS, LIKE WE HAVE NOW. And I believe that is THE TRUTH.
Those are words of truth from a person who holds the Bible up as the ultimate authority.
Proclaimer: It could be 6 literal 24 hour periods, but it may not be either.
Those are words of uncertainty from a person who is…[Read more]
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