Admin replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
I am 100% against doing that. This is a good discussion right now. We have quite a few people discussing a number of different ways that Scientism contradicts the Bible. Nor are any of our arguments limited to only Genesis.
I’ll let this topic run free then. I’ll try and come up with a decent name for it.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
And God is a mighty fortress. That doesn’t mean that he is a building.
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
Berean. You need to be more like the Bereans. Study scripture to see if ot is so. The Bereans didn’t take Paul’s word for it, but first checked the scriptures to see of it is so. So taking the SDA at their word is not being a Berean. You need to put scripture above them.
Further, no one is saying it is not six or seven days, rather that a day to…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer
God our Father has created days within our reach. To disbelieve that is to disbelieve that God truly loves us. It’s a thing.
The story of creation is the prototype of our week to us poor humans. I believe that the weight of evidence leans on that side, it is the most reasonable.And we still have Exodus 20
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For in SIX DAYS the LORD…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
The days of creation are 24 hours, like our current days.
Except the bible doesn’t say that. Thus you need to be more like the Bereans who studied the scriptures to see if it were so.
Berean replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
Gene
The Word of God tells us that:
For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. (Exodus 20)The days of creation are 24 hours, like our current days.
When at the 6000 years, we are there, the earth sighs after HIS…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
Berean, A thousand years equals a day with God and a day equals a thousand years. God said to Adam and Eve, “in the ” DAY, YOU EAT OF THE TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE AND EVIL YOU SHALL DIE, “right”/? , but they did not die in the exact 24 hour time period after they ate it, right? But they did die within God the Father’s , time period of one tho…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
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For in six days
the LORD made:
heaven and earth,
the sea
, and all that in them is,
and rested the seventh day: wh…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
By the way I do agree with your point about the earth already and water already existed before God started this creation, in fact there could have been many beginnings this earth may have went through,
Yes, there have been many ages, worlds, eons. The bible even says this.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
17 It is a sign forever between me and the people of Israel that in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.”
If you deny the above text you will also deny the original story of creation in the Bible. So what do you say?Good. So now look at Genesis. What was accomplished by the end of the fi…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
I lack understanding?
Yes
I’m foolish?
Yes, you do foolish things. But we all do to a degree. I’ll leave it up to God as to whether you are a fool or not.
I suggest there are lizard people?
That is a popular conspiracy theory among some groups. That shape-shifter live among us and they are the true elites. And yes, you sent me a video one time of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
Exodus 20:9-11… Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God… For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day
A number of ways to look at this. And given the creation of the sun in your view taking place on the fourth day, then…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
I understand that you’re attempting to call historical statements metaphorical with no evidence or valid reason to do so except that the scriptures in question don’t align with your preferred worldview… but I don’t understand what you’re actually saying. What “lighting situation” am I talking about? Are you saying there were evenings and mo…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer: While you may not understand any of this, suffice to say , you are foolishly suggesting that thousands or millions of lizard people are tricking us to believe the earth is a globe that spins around the sun…
Hilarious Mike. Really funny. I mean if you want to be the butt of the joke, then that is your choice I suppose. But maybe…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer: But you don’t have to bother if you consider that Genesis actually says that God created the heavens and the earth and that the earth was formless and void before the days even began.
Gene: By the way I do agree with your point about the earth and water already existed before God started this creation…
Okay, let’s do a comp…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
Mike: And don’t forget that plants existed on earth BEFORE the sun (and all the stars) was even created! It’s not an error in translation, Proclaimer. It’s an error in your Scientism-based understanding of the world God created for us.
Proclaimer: Yep, a big problem with your interpretation alright. For a start, try placing a plant in comple…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Hi guys.</span>
<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>I’m thinking about splitting this topic up. I could branch out the Genesis debate into its own topic. Anyone against doing that and why?</span>
<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>The benefit is that topic will be easier to find and because it will be dedicated to…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer: Like much of the bible, it could be metaphorical. So that morning and evening are the beginning and end of each day and not really about the lighting situation that you are talking about.
I understand that you’re attempting to call historical statements metaphorical with no evidence or valid reason to do so except that the scriptures…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer: Yet, the sun according to this view was not created till the fourth day. Funny that.
Genesis 1:14-19… And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven… and it was so. God made two great lights… he made the stars also. God set them in the firmament of the heaven… And the evening and the morning were the four…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer my post are not being posted why? Your idea of splitting up the posts is a good idea.
By the way I do agree with your point about the earth already and water already existed before God started this creation, in fact there could have been many beginnings this earth may have went through,
peace and love to you and yours Proclaimer………..gene
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