Me: GOD TRANSFORMED HIMSELF AND BECAME LIGHT AND COVERED THE ENTIRE INFINITE EXISTENCE! “

You: I don’t believe God told you that…
Where did you read that in the bible?

Me what does the scriptures hereunder say?

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light,

and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things.

1 John 1:5 T…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Science shows us an amazing universe that God created… The distances and times are beyond you mind.

Are they?  Carmel and I were briefly discussing Isaiah 14 earlier today, and I’d like your input.

Isaiah 14:12-13… How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once l…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Genesis doesn’t have to disagree with much of science, particularly astronomy, geology, etc.

What are you talking about?  Genesis doesn’t disagree with ANY science, because true science actually supports a six day creation 6000 years ago and a worldwide flood 4500 years ago.

Proclaimer:  But you force it to disagree because you do n…

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Proclaimer:  Do not forget, that a day to God is like a thousand years. Or a long long time.

OR… a thousand years to God is like a single day to us – a very SHORT time.  But either way, the metaphor is irrelevant to what God means when He speaks about any particular number of days to humans.  Time to put that one back in the holster, Barney Fi…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  In the Genesis account of days, this is God was creating before man existed for the most part. And the Sun wasn’t in existence according to you, (I disagree). So why would a day where God is creating be measured by the sun when man is not yet in existence. And worse for you, when the sun isn’t even there. It makes no sense.

When was…[Read more]

Carmel: Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH!

Reading the above verse we are for sure that GOD BEFORE CREATION WAS ON HIS OWN

Mike:  Wrong.  God created Jesus and the other gods

Carmel: IF ACCORDING TO YOU GOD CREATED JESUS AND OTHER ANGELS, WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT IF NOT THE BEGINNING OF CREATION!

The creation of…[Read more]

Carmel:  PLEASE POST THE DIRECT QUOTE OF MY WORDS!

No.  If the search function on this site wasn’t useless, I’d have found that quote in less than a minute.  As it is, I spent 25 minutes trying different search terms that included “Gen 1” and “Ex 31″… and nothing.

Same thing earlier to answer Gene’s accusation that I hadn’t addressed his Ad…[Read more]

You already have a pending question about why you would think those days were any different than all of the other NUMBERED days God talks about in the Bible.  I’m awaiting your response.

It’s real simple Mike. But maybe you missed it.

1. A day to God is way longer than a day to us. You have forgotten this or are ignoring it intentionally.

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Gene:  FACT IS Genesis 1, clearly indicates  that the heavens and earth was already here,  when God Started his , new beginning of this earth that once existed,  and he destroyed the earth with all the animal kingdom that then existed,  with water just as he did, in the days of Noah…

Sorry Gene, but I can’t read any of this in scripture – beca…[Read more]

Me  Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH!

Reading the above verse we are for sure that GOD BEFORE CREATION WAS ON HIS OWN

You: Wrong.  God created Jesus and the other gods

ME: FOR A START, JESUS WAS/IS “THE WORD” OF GOD AND WAS  NEVER CREATED AS A SPIRIT, AD-INTRA! DIVINE!

NEVERTHELESS, IF ACCORDING TO YOU GOD CR…[Read more]

Proclaimer: “We’re just waiting for one time in the entire Bible where God talks about a specific NUMBER of days, but isn’t talking about literal 12 or 24 hour days.”

Correct.  Have you found one yet?

Proclaimer:  I’m not sure, but there might be this one time in Genesis where day one, day two, etc is mentioned…

You already have a pending…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

 You: Since my statement doesn’t include a direct quote of your words,

Me: PLEASE POST THE DIRECT QUOTE OF MY WORDS!

Peace and love in Jesus Christ

Carmel: Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH!

Reading the above verse we are for sure that GOD BEFORE CREATION WAS ON HIS OWN

Wrong.  God created Jesus and the other gods (you call them angels) BEFORE the creation event of Genesis 1.

Job 38:4-7…  Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation… while the morn…[Read more]

ISAIAH 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, who didst rise in the morning? how art thou fallen to the earth, that didst wound the nations?

13And thou saidst in thy heart:

I will ascend into heaven,

I will exalt my throne above the stars of God,

I will sit in the mountain of the covenant, in the sides of the north.

14I will ascend…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  To be a scholar or serious student of God’s word Mike and Berean, you need to not only understand patterns in scripture, but also be able to decode the symbols, the terms, and the times. I think you have seriously failed at this.

Well, you are of course free to think whatever you want to think.  But keep in mind that I’m the one who…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  In Revelation for example, we are told that “the day of His wrath has come“, but reading further in Revelation, we see his wrath and judgments spans a greater time period than 12 or 24 hours.

Correct.  When we read statements like “the day of the LORD” or “in that day”, we often don’t know for sure if it will be a single day, or a l…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  I can let scripture teach me because I do not fix or limit things according to my own biases.

Really?

Exodus 20:9-11…  Six days you shall labor and do all your work… For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth and the sea and all that is in them…

Letting the scripture teach you without any personal biases i…[Read more]

Just when I got comfortable not having to copy every post before submitting it…

And I arrowed back multiple times to try to find the post I lost, but no luck.  At least it wasn’t a really long one that took me an hour this time.

Carmel

You :”GOD TRANSFORMED HIMSELF AND BECAME LIGHT AND COVERED THE ENTIRE INFINITE EXISTENCE! “

Me

I don’t believe God told you that…
Where did you read that in the bible?
God covers himself with darkness, YES, FOR OUR GOD IS LIKE A DEVOURING FIRE (HEBREWS 12:29), AND THEREFORE HE IS VEILING HIS GLORY SO AS NOT TO DESTROY THOSE WHO CAME…[Read more]

Mike……Paraphrasing is exactly what you do with things that are clearly written that go against your reasonings.  FACT IS Genesis 1, clearly indicates  that the heavens and earth was already here,  when God Started his , new beginning of this earth that once existed,  and he destroyed the earth with all the animal kingdom that then existed,  wi…[Read more]