• Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    You: with your reasoning then, HOW can “anything” be “preordained”

    Me: This make no sense, you seem to be missing a word or two or misspoke. I never suggested “nothing” couldn’t be preordained; I quoted Peter and John saying the Jesus’ death WAS preordained/foreordained. Foreordained means an inevitable, predestined, or established befor…[Read more]

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    Jodi……“AMEN” to that.

    peace and love to you and yours……..gene

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    Hi DT,

    I had just a moment so I decided to check in an see what was the latest on here. I saw your post to Gene and was going to respond to, “How can the Jesus “freely” lay down his life when it was preordained from the beginning of time for him to do so? What choice did he really have? Was he going to defy the spirit that was in him?”, but the…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    DT, you said…….>”How can the Jesus “freely” lay down his life when it was preordained from the beginning of time for him to do so? What choice did he really have? Was he going to defy the spirit that was in him?”

    You seem to lack understanding of the power of God WORKING IN THE MINDS OF PEOPLE, with your reasoning then, HOW can “anything” be “pre…[Read more]

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    @Gene,

    You: where did I or anyone here say God “MURDERED” JESUS. To say that is simply “a LIE”.

    Me: Why are you shooting the messenger? If you are going to inject yourself into a conversation, please start at the beginning.

    My question to Jodi was because of her statement of “God putting to death one man for the transgressions of others.” AGA…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    DT……Your lack of knowledge of the New Testament as well as the old is obvious to me. So let me then quote the scriptures,  you say I didn’t quote, about Jesus sacrificing himself ok.

    JOHN 10: 17-18…..> “therefore does my Father love me, because, I LAY DOWN MY LIFE, that I might take it again”.

    verse 18…>.  “No man takes it from me, but I lay i…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    You: I Answered your question to Jodi, and instead of answering the scriptures I gave you, you simply ignore them and shift to something else

    Me: You provided zero scriptures in your response to the Jodi question. AND you will notice in my response to you I quoted exactly what you said and responded to YOUR statement the Jesus…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    DT……Jodi would have answered you the same way, why?, because she has the “SPIRIT” of God abiding “in” her.  You on the other hand don’t, and that why you flip flop around our responses by simply asking different questions every time we “answer” your questions. I Answered your question to Jodi, and instead of answering the scriptures I gave you, y…[Read more]

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    Isaiah 58:1-2 Shout aloud without restraint, declare to My people: Israel, their sins.  They seek guidance of Me day after day and say they delight in knowing My ways, as if they were a nation which had acted rightly and had not abandoned the just Laws of their God.  The Jewish State of Israel.

    Isaiah 58:3-5 Why should we fast and work hard for G…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Gene,

    Can I ask why you decided to jump to a question I asked Jodi verses answering the questions I asked you to clarify in our last discussion concerning the “millennial reign”? For your memory enjoyment:

    Why is God “testing” everyone who is already “saved”? The first “saving” wasn’t an actual “saving”; wasn’t it good enough?

    Aren’…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    DT,  you said……Me: HE murdered his son for the “transgressions of others”, like a bull on an altar? On what plane does that make sense to you? There is so much wrong in what you said. Isn’t murder, murder and called a sin? Are you saying God can sin? Still waiting for when God changed and said the innocent can be responsible for the actions of…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    DT,  you said……Me: HE murdered his son for the “transgressions of others”, like a bull on an altar? On what plane does that make sense to you? There is so much wrong in what you said. Isn’t murder, murder and called a sin? Are you saying God can sin? Still waiting for when God changed and said the innocent can be responsible for the actions of…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Carmel,

    First, would you like a little cheese with your whine? Maybe a cracker to wash it down? Me saying your writing style s*cks:

    As a side note, can you please write in a normal fashion; your format is extremely distracting and hard to follow. Stop with the all caps, there is no need to constantly yell.

    Your writing format is to difficult…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    You: Accusing me of not continuing our “conversation” because I “don’t like your format”,….

    couldn’t be further from the truth.

    Me: if you wanted to be honest and also TO JUSTIFY YOURSELF why haven’t you been more specific and posted my own words, instead of the above,?

    I have proven to you specifically black on white, THAT MY WRITI…[Read more]

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    If You Think God Doesn’t Exist Watch This Analysis and clips featuring Logan Paul, Cliffe Knechtle, William Lane Craig, Frank Turek (Cross Examined), the Christian vs Atheist debate (James White &

  • Profile picture of Berean

    What prophecy?
    Me

    Revelation13

    ….

    11] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

    And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship 👉the first beast, 👉whose deadly wound was healed.👈
    And he doeth…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Carmel,

    Your response shows up as a period on the forum; what I received in the email update is HTML garbage. Your “emphatic, expressive, and impactful” writing style falls flat if it can’t be read. Learn how to write! You may also want to check your coding for errors since it didn’t post properly.

    This is what I received and will not waste…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi,

    You sure do like to read between the lines don’t you? No where did I say not to study; but to self study and rely on your own conclusions and call them truth without confirmation, can get you into trouble. One can make anything say whatever they want it and call it truth (think of the over 30,000 different religions worldwide today). W…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi,

    You: I pointed out there is quite the difference between God commanding Israel not to murder their children in worship of false gods verses God putting to death one man for the transgressions of others where that man is raised shortly thereafter back to life.

    Me: HE murdered his son for the “transgressions of others”, like a bull on an…[Read more]

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