Berean replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer
Your interpretation of day for God is worth a thousand years ONCE AGAIN IS OUT OF CONTEXT. YOU PUT AWAY WHY PETER SPOKEN.
THE CONTEXT IS THE NEXT RETURN OF JESUS AND NOT ANYTHING ELSE. I’M AFRAID THAT YOU ARE NOT ASSEMBLING WITH JESUS, BUT DISPERSING… (on this subject at least)mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer: Bwahahaha!
What is a day. To us it is 24 hours. On mars it is different. You have acknowledged that. So how long is it when God creates the universe and the sun is not even created? Lol.
Ahh… but I’m specifically asking you about the length of earth days AFTER the sun was created/allowed to shine on earth, right? So please a…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer: In John 1;1, the Word is preceded with the definite article every time. It is not talking about an attribute.
I agree that Jesus has, as one of his many titles, “The Word of God” because he is God’s main spokesman. But I don’t think your definite article argument doesn’t really means what you think it does. For example…
Acts 13…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
So even in your model, where the sun and earth came into existence 4.5 billion years ago, the very first “day” was dictated by the time it took the earth to rotate once, meaning a certain location on the earth went from sunrise, through nighttime, to the next sunrise. And the next time that same cycle occurred was the second day. And the next…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
@Proclaimer @Admin
And this one…
Proclaimer, you likened me to a cult leader or a dodgy politician for offering only two options in this Genesis versus Scientism discussion. Here are the two options that I pointed out for you…
- Either the Biblical creation account and Scientism are in agreement, or they contradict each other. That is only…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Berean,, being called something dosen’t make you it. JUST is called the word of God because he tell us “what the Father tells him to tell us, not because he “IS” the word of God “HIMSELF”.
In John 1;1, the Word is preceded with the definite article every time. It is not talking about an attribute. HE became flesh. As a second witness, we als…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
@Proclaimer @Admin
And this one…
Proclaimer, we all acknowledge that there is metaphorical language in the Bible. I assert that there is no indication of metaphorical language in Genesis chapter one.
IF YOU DISAGREE, LIST THE METAPHORS, WHAT THEY ARE METAPHORICALLY ALLUDING TO, AND HOW YOU CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION USING ONLY THE SCRIPTURES. THANKS.mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
@Proclaimer @Admin
Aside from the question I was forced to repeat 2 posts above, I’m still waiting for your answer to this one as well…
PROCLAIMER, IF WE WERE TO ASK YAHWEH IF HE WAS WILLING TO LIE TO HIS CREATION IN SUCH A DECEPTIVE MANNER, DO YOU SUPPOSE THAT HE WOULD ALSO ANSWER, “WHY NOT?”, LIKE YOU DID?mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Gene: Mike…..where was Jesus ever mentioned in the old testement, as a prexisting being?
Micah 5:2 NET Bible… As for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, 1 seemingly insignificant 2 among the clans of Judah – from you a king will emerge who will rule over Israel on my behalf, 3 one whose origins 4 are in the distant past. 5
Here are footnotes 4 a…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Okay @Proclaimer
We both agree that the concept of a “day” is irrelevant to God. You even joked that it’s not like heaven has a giant sun that dictates “days” for God. I agree. So what exactly is a “day”?
Well, the following graphic is actually from NASA…

https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/days/en/
So even though your main source of Sc…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Berean,, being called something dosen’t make you it. JUST is called the word of God because he tell us “what the Father tells him to tell us, not because he “IS” the word of God “HIMSELF”. This is why I have ask you before , do you actually believe what Jesus actually himself says. “The “words I am telling you are not my word , but the words…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Mike…..where was Jesus ever mentioned in the old testement, as a prexisting being? Did Jesus ever say he was alive before his berth on this earth, just one scripture where he apsolutely said the, I and not talking about scriptures that say he was prophesied to come into his existence, but where it say he was already existing as a actual b…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer: Mike, you are in the Stone Age.
What is “the Stone Age”? Seriously, please explain what that means. Who lived then? Why is it called “the Stone Age”?
Proclaimer: But we live in the Space Age.
What is “the Space Age”? Was there not “space” for people to move around in the past? Surely you must be talking about the nonsens…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer: Waking up now, but still feel a bit tired….
Great! Maybe my prayers are being answered. 🙏🙏
Proclaimer: Mike, you seem to be the world’s greatest scientist or one of them, expert doctor, and a fabulous warrior all wrapped up in one person. You know more than anyone it seems. Congratulations!
Thank you. But honestly, I don’t know m…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer: I never remember Long Cold, pre-Covid.
Why? Why must you be so blind? Tell that to my brother who just had a “long” illness, testing negative for Covid the entire time.
Do you REALLY believe that in the history of mankind, nobody has ever been laid up for a long time with a bad case of the flu? I was laid up for two weeks when I w…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer: Medical authorities make the argument that Covid is associated with Myocarditis too. Myocarditis from Covid is thought to be a combination of direct viral injury and cardiac damage due to the host’s immune response.
But only Covid 19, huh? All the other coronaviruses (common colds) that we’ve dealt with for decades didn’t cause myoc…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer: Hi Mike. In years past, there was Mers, Sars, Swine Flu, Bird Flu, etc. I got Swine Flu and it was pretty brutal. Was that just a Cold?
My brother and sister-in-law have been laid up sick in bed for almost a month. They are finally over it. They are double vaxxed (I don’t know if they are also boosted). They were tested by a lab…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Gene
“You or they have never proved at any time any activity of Jesus before his birth on this earth ever.”
Me
…at any time any activity of Jesus ????
If only you want to believe the biblical text as it is given to us, you will understand that “THE Word” is the Name given to the Son of God.
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“And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Carmel: WORLDLY WISDOM IS NOT OF GOD, AND COUNTS FOR NOTHING Mr. Mike!
What else do we have, Carmel? Even if a spirit shows you something, you much test that spirit to see if it is from God, right? By what means do we test that spirit? For example, if a spirit tells you that David lived by himself on a different planet during the flood, what…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Gene: Proclaimer…….Wrong, they do not see Jesus be exact way they see other humans…
Gene, you should really read my last 3 posts.
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