Admin replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Mike. You are embarrassing yourself. Do you honestly believe you have me and other globe trotters on the run? That this is a slam dunk. Funny as.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
What is Stone Age?
Mike, there are still stoneage cultures today. They hunt and make fire using stone tools and wood. Nothing wrong with that of course. But if they tried to pass off their creation myths as science, then I would have a problem with that.
For example, Australian Aboriginals believed that the Rainbow Serpent came from underground…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
IF YOU DISAGREE, LIST THE METAPHORS, WHAT THEY ARE METAPHORICALLY ALLUDING TO, AND HOW YOU CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION USING ONLY THE SCRIPTURES. THANKS.
Um. The sun wasn’t even there according to you. So forcing 24 hours with a literal morning and evening is silly. Same goes for Jesus return. There is no samurai sword, so I would suggest that it is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer knows full well that his use of 2 Peter 3:8 is completely out of context in a discussion about Genesis 1 – but he has NOTHING ELSE to offer.
I see. So it is always 24 hours except that one time in Peter and when night is mentioned. Got it. Bwhahahaha!
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
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a mad or crazy personmikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Berean: Proclaimer
Your interpretation of day for God is worth a thousand years ONCE AGAIN IS OUT OF CONTEXT.
Proclaimer knows full well that his use of 2 Peter 3:8 is completely out of context in a discussion about Genesis 1 – but he has NOTHING ELSE to offer.
He realized a long time ago that he lost this debate, but his pride and ego won’t…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer: So now you just need to add in Heaven day – Length. You will find that God is not dictated to by any day you mention below. Days were made for us…
And therein lies the crux of the matter. You have inadvertently arrived at the very place I was leading you. As we both agree, there is no such thing as a “Heaven day” – as if ther…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer
Your interpretation of day for God is worth a thousand years ONCE AGAIN IS OUT OF CONTEXT. YOU PUT AWAY WHY PETER SPOKEN.
THE CONTEXT IS THE NEXT RETURN OF JESUS AND NOT ANYTHING ELSE. I’M AFRAID THAT YOU ARE NOT ASSEMBLING WITH JESUS, BUT DISPERSING… (on this subject at least)mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer: Bwahahaha!
What is a day. To us it is 24 hours. On mars it is different. You have acknowledged that. So how long is it when God creates the universe and the sun is not even created? Lol.
Ahh… but I’m specifically asking you about the length of earth days AFTER the sun was created/allowed to shine on earth, right? So please a…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer: In John 1;1, the Word is preceded with the definite article every time. It is not talking about an attribute.
I agree that Jesus has, as one of his many titles, “The Word of God” because he is God’s main spokesman. But I don’t think your definite article argument doesn’t really means what you think it does. For example…
Acts 13…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
So even in your model, where the sun and earth came into existence 4.5 billion years ago, the very first “day” was dictated by the time it took the earth to rotate once, meaning a certain location on the earth went from sunrise, through nighttime, to the next sunrise. And the next time that same cycle occurred was the second day. And the next…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
@Proclaimer @Admin
And this one…
Proclaimer, you likened me to a cult leader or a dodgy politician for offering only two options in this Genesis versus Scientism discussion. Here are the two options that I pointed out for you…
- Either the Biblical creation account and Scientism are in agreement, or they contradict each other. That is only…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Berean,, being called something dosen’t make you it. JUST is called the word of God because he tell us “what the Father tells him to tell us, not because he “IS” the word of God “HIMSELF”.
In John 1;1, the Word is preceded with the definite article every time. It is not talking about an attribute. HE became flesh. As a second witness, we als…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
@Proclaimer @Admin
And this one…
Proclaimer, we all acknowledge that there is metaphorical language in the Bible. I assert that there is no indication of metaphorical language in Genesis chapter one.
IF YOU DISAGREE, LIST THE METAPHORS, WHAT THEY ARE METAPHORICALLY ALLUDING TO, AND HOW YOU CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION USING ONLY THE SCRIPTURES. THANKS.mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
@Proclaimer @Admin
Aside from the question I was forced to repeat 2 posts above, I’m still waiting for your answer to this one as well…
PROCLAIMER, IF WE WERE TO ASK YAHWEH IF HE WAS WILLING TO LIE TO HIS CREATION IN SUCH A DECEPTIVE MANNER, DO YOU SUPPOSE THAT HE WOULD ALSO ANSWER, “WHY NOT?”, LIKE YOU DID?mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Gene: Mike…..where was Jesus ever mentioned in the old testement, as a prexisting being?
Micah 5:2 NET Bible… As for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, 1 seemingly insignificant 2 among the clans of Judah – from you a king will emerge who will rule over Israel on my behalf, 3 one whose origins 4 are in the distant past. 5
Here are footnotes 4 a…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Okay @Proclaimer
We both agree that the concept of a “day” is irrelevant to God. You even joked that it’s not like heaven has a giant sun that dictates “days” for God. I agree. So what exactly is a “day”?
Well, the following graphic is actually from NASA…

https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/days/en/
So even though your main source of Sc…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Berean,, being called something dosen’t make you it. JUST is called the word of God because he tell us “what the Father tells him to tell us, not because he “IS” the word of God “HIMSELF”. This is why I have ask you before , do you actually believe what Jesus actually himself says. “The “words I am telling you are not my word , but the words…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Mike…..where was Jesus ever mentioned in the old testement, as a prexisting being? Did Jesus ever say he was alive before his berth on this earth, just one scripture where he apsolutely said the, I and not talking about scriptures that say he was prophesied to come into his existence, but where it say he was already existing as a actual b…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 6 months ago
Proclaimer: Mike, you are in the Stone Age.
What is “the Stone Age”? Seriously, please explain what that means. Who lived then? Why is it called “the Stone Age”?
Proclaimer: But we live in the Space Age.
What is “the Space Age”? Was there not “space” for people to move around in the past? Surely you must be talking about the nonsens…[Read more]
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