• Profile picture of Lightenup

    Hi Adam,

    Have I asked you if you have read the Jewish Targums? Do you know about them?

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    Mike,

    You said:

     You are free to have your beliefs about Jesus being the very God he is the servant of – but at least be fair about it.  Don’t go out of your way to purposely mistranslate scriptures to force your belief into the Bible.

    Compare your bias of what I say to what I actually say:

    I will correct your post to say this, look at the diffe…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    In answer to your question, no, physically I don’t cover my head when I pray but I am not opposed to that. Spiritually, I do pray under the covering of who is my head, Jesus.

    Regarding Jerusalem as being called Yahweh our Righteousness:

    A great person often has a city named after them and obviously they are not the city. The city of…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    Good conversation, Mike.

    You said:

    So it’s really simple.  Jesus is the son, servant, mediator, prophet, holy one, anointed one, and sacrificial lamb of God.  If “God” is “The Yahweh Unity”, then Jesus is the son, servant, mediator, prophet, holy one, anointed one, and sacrificial lamb of “The Yahweh Unity”.

    Actually that and much more tha…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Carmel, the two scriptures are not “opposite” – just completely unrelated.  Like I said, if your theory is correct, then Jeremiah lived on the “perfect earth”, prophesied about the subsequent creation of the “very good but not perfect” earth, and then lived again on that second earth.

    Do you believe that?  Yes or No?

    Besides, there were still m…[Read more]

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    LU:  Then the Father (the God no one has seen of John 1:18) said to the Son (the only begotten God of John 1:18), “Let Us make man in Our image (the only begotten God who is the image of the God no one has seen, Col 1:15)…

    How do you know?  Why couldn’t it have been the Son saying, “Let us make man in our image”?

    And which one of them was the…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    You: Of course not, Carmel. 

    Genesis 1:2 And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God moved over the waters.

    Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and lo it was void, and nothing: and the heavens, and there was no light in them.

    Me: So according to you the above scriptures are…[Read more]

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    Adam, that passage you quoted – plus Psalm 82, Luke 4:6, and the Book of Enoch sum up the entirety of the Bible from the spirit realm aspect….

    Deuteronomy 32:8-9… When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when He divided the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. But the…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    You said:

    Maybe you could answer the question more specifically.  Who specifically was the speaker saying the words, and who specifically was the speaker saying those words to?

    1 Cor 8:6 yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom are all things, and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we e…[Read more]

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    Gene:  Mike……if you are going to talk about God or as you believe God’s,  then first establish what the  word actually means is vital to this descussion.   I said God is not a person at all,  but a Word that describes a “RELATIONSHIP” and can apply to “ANYTHING”.  do you agree with that, or NOT?

    Hi Gene,

    I use the words “god” and “gods” (NOT God’…[Read more]

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    Adam:  Hi Mike, thanks for this new thread on “Many Gods of the Bible”. I always wonder how the Hebrew religion developed from the Henotheism to Monotheism.

    I know that the Bible is full of all kinds of different gods – just from a straightforward reading of it – and it has always baffled me why people who read the Bible think it only talks abou…[Read more]

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    Mike……Not knowing the exact definition of the “WORD” GOD is the most important thing , which you have ignored and acted like it not important to this topic.  But in fact if you are going to talk about God or as you believe God’s,  then first establish what the  word actually means is vital to this descussion.   I said God is not a person at a…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Carmel: I AGREE above regarding the judgments impending to the land of Israel. 

    Genesis 1:2 is a description of the state,

    NOT IN WHICH GOD MADE THE EARTH, SINCE IT WAS ALREADY CREATED IN GENESIS 1:1

    but to which He was pleased subsequently to reduce it.
    Answer please:

    DO YOU AGREE 

    Of course not, Carmel.  To agree to that, I’d have to agree…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer: My next question is about your own science and arguments as to why there is a dome, being that air pressure requires it lest the atmosphere is sucked into space.

    The Bible is silent on air pressure, and a so-called atmosphere getting sucked into a so-called outer space.  The Bible says that the firmament is the heaven that God c…[Read more]

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    Origins of Judaism

    The origins of Judaism lie in the Bronze Age amidst polytheistic ancient Semitic religions, specifically evolving out of the polytheistic ancient Canaanite religion, then co-existing with Babylonian religion, and syncretizing elements of Babylonian belief into the worship of Yahweh as reflected in the early prophetic books of t…[Read more]

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    Genesis 3… 5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

    22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, knowing good and evil…

    So the serpent told Eve that eating from the tree would make her like the gods, knowing good and evil.  And then Go…

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    Proclaimer:  Truth seekers are always open minded and they listen to opposing views until they debunk those views. Whereas, you blindly reject views with no investigation. You make sweeping statements that condemn, but give no proof of why you came to that conclusion.

    Adam:  Hi Proclaimer, in fact it’s the other way round…

    Thank you for tha…[Read more]

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    Gene:  Mike……before you start, why not EXPLAIN what the word “SCIENTISM”  means, I have never heard of the word before you mentioned it here.

    Hi Gene,

    Science is observation, investigation and collection of data.  Science doesn’t draw any conclusions about anything.  It is only the data.

    The religion of Scientism is an unquestioning, faith-based…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Mike,

    You: No, it is God talking about punishing Judah for abandoning Him…

    Me:  AGREE: Jer. 4:23 is clearly in allusion to Genesis. The prophet writes in view of the land of Israel and the judgments impending.

    The prophet looks onward to the utter desolation with which God would visit the land of Israel,

    the terms being pointedly chosen de…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Proclaimer:  The rules state that you state the rules in the first post. Since that wasn’t followed, I guess others just assumed that they could post like other topics.

    Fair enough.  Go ahead and leave the posts then.  I will use them to my advantage.

    Proclaimer:  I love the Hot Seat. It is designed to get an answer and stop people just ignor…

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