Incorrect Mike.

I have posted arguments from my own words that disprove the flat earth and prove the globe. Posting videos from others will never negate that.I do both.

And those videos clearly debunk the flat earth. If you cared about the truth, then you would at least disprove the claims made in these videos. But you are obviously happy to…[Read more]

Incorrect. You posted in that thread in the last week or so because I have moved the conversation over there.

Proclaimer: Hi Mike.

Since you have created a new topic of debate to replace this one, should I merge this into the Conspiracy Theory topic. What do you think? Actually, the Flat earth topic would be a better option. I may do that. but feel free to put your point of view forward.

Do what you want.  I don’t post in the Flat Earth thread anymore b…[Read more]

Hey Mike. Saying that the days can vary in length means that it could be shorter or longer. today was longer apparently. Oh, you point out that you did your homework. So what? Your point doesn’t prove the flat earth or debunk the globe earth. Whereas, my points debunk the flat earth and prove the globe. Further, a day to God is not like a day for…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Okay, so you cannot extrapolate a conclusion from what was said. I will spell it out for you. If the hours of a day have changed in the past, then it would be simple to conclude that the length of a day changing doesn’t rule out longer or shorter days.

According to Scientism, the early days on earth were always SHORTER than 24 hour…[Read more]

It’s a combination of visual acuity, air conditions, and perspective.  For example, looking down straight railroad tracks, the two different rails don’t really merge together in the distance – but perspective makes it appear as if they do.  Perspective works the same way up and down as it does right to left with the railroad tracks.

Any artist…

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Really? Static noises coming into large audio antennae? And what “evidence” that it’s expanding? Redshift? Did you know that if we can detect “redshift” at all, there are at least FOUR different reasons for it… and only ONE of those reasons is that the object is moving AWAY from us. So the entire “expanding universe” idea is based on accepting on…

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Proclaimer:  So let’s look at the Big Bang. It is true that we cannot view the Big Bang directly or indirectly…
Then it’s not a part of science – plain and simple.

Incorrect. You are talking here about the scientific method developed by Newton. Science existed before Newton. Further, you cannot test God, but you can see him indirectly too, thro…[Read more]

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Hi Mike,

Carmel: 2Peter3:5  For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God

the heavens were of OLD, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 

What the above scripture tells you clearly, regarding THE HEAVEN/S and THE EARTH

You: That heaven and earth were created a long time ago, and the earth as we n…[Read more]

Hi Mike.

Since you have created a new topic of debate to replace this one, should I merge this into the Conspiracy Theory topic. What do you think?

You pay attention.  The question was if there was any reason to suspect that the days were LONGER THAN 24 hours during the creation period.  And no scientist says that days have ever been LONGER THAN 24 hours on earth.

Okay, so you cannot extrapolate a conclusion from what was said. I will spell it out. If the hours of a day have changed in the…[Read more]

LU: So what will it be, mutual respect and giving the other the benefit of the doubt or you continuing to make negative declarations of my intentions that are far from accurate and that you have no way of knowing. 

Kathi, if you are telling me now that when I asked for other examples where we have to decide who is speaking like we have to always…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Pay attention Mike. It has already been answered. I won;t repeat myself, but hopefully this jolts your memory. Scientists believe that days were not always 24 hours in the history of our planet.

You pay attention.  The question was if there was any reason to suspect that the days were LONGER THAN 24 hours during the creation p…[Read more]

Close. Here’s a diagram…

Lol. It is the same. Just different wording.

Well let’s see… I asked if there was any reason for you to suspect that the daily earth-sun cycles were longer than 24 hours during the creation period. You refused to answer that ONE question, and so I answered it for you.

Pay attention Mike. It has already been answere…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  You believe that the earth is flat, so please explain how this volcano that sits on land looks like it is in the middle of the ocean when viewing it from a distance that is beyond the horizon.

It’s a combination of visual acuity, air conditions, and perspective.  For example, looking down straight railroad tracks, the two different r…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  Anyway, it looks like my turn to ask a question. I answered three of your questions. But I will be gracious and ask one so this topic starts with your desired format.

Actually, you STILL haven’t answered either of the first two questions I asked in the other thread.  And the “three” that you FINALLY answered just yesterday were all o…[Read more]

Proclaimer:  If you are saying that the sun was created on the fourth day, then I contest that.

Then you are contesting, not me, but the Bible itself.

Proclaimer:  What happened on the 4th day is that the sun was placed in the vault. So looking up from the earth’s surface, you can see the sun in the sky.

Yes, the sun was placed in the domed, vau…[Read more]

In my opinion, Proclaimer has dishonored the spirit and intent of the first Bible vs Scientism Hot Seat thread by allowing other posters, inserting off-topic issues, and turning it into a regular thread like the one we were already on when he refused to directly answer my questions in the first place – the very reason I started the Hot Seat t…

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Mike:  PROCLAIMER, IS THERE ANY SCRIPTURAL REASON FOR YOU TO SUSPECT THAT THE DAILY SUN-EARTH CYCLES – OR THE LIGHT-DARK CYCLES THAT PRECEDED THE APPEARANCE OF THE SUN – WERE ANYTHING OTHER THAN 24-HOUR CYCLES DURING THE CREATION PERIOD? IF SO, PLEASE PRESENT THAT SCRIPTURAL EVIDENCE.

 
PROCLAIMER:  WHAT? LOL. DAY AND NIGHT CYCLES BEFORE THE SUN…[Read more]