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@Proclaimer,

You say the Jesus prophesied of his own death for the sins of others; I’ll ask again, when did God change his mind and say the innocent can take on the guilt of the wicked?

The idea of the innocent bearing the guilt of the wicked is a key theme in the New Testament. It’s not about God changing His mind but rather a gradual r…

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@Jodi

DT,

YOU: You say the Jesus prophesied of his own death for the sins of others; I’ll ask again, when did God change his mind and say the innocent can take on the guilt of the wicked?

ME: I explained this to you thoroughly with scriptural examples, but your response was to ignore it and change the subject. God didn’t change his mind, you m…

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@Jodi,

What are you talking about? I have said repeatedly that Jewish people are people of the tribe of Judah, to which is one tribe of the 12 tribes OF ISRAEL. This is not difficult, If you are of the tribe of Levi you are not Jewish/of the tribe of Judah, but both tribes of course are of Israel.

False! “Jew” isn’t a reference to a single tribe…[Read more]

@Gene,

DT, Can’t believe your so ignorant that you ask such questions,

WOW!!! I see the Jesus shining in you! I find it funny when “christians” respond with personal attacks, it reveals their insecurity and puts a smile on my face when a simple question invokes an ire in them.

1….”FAITH IS, the substance of things hoped for, (how) by the “EVIDEN…

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You say the Jesus prophesied of his own death for the sins of others; I’ll ask again, when did God change his mind and say the innocent can take on the guilt of the wicked?

The idea of the innocent bearing the guilt of the wicked is a key theme in the New Testament. It’s not about God changing His mind but rather a gradual revelation of His j…[Read more]

No, Jews are not only from the tribe of Judah. While the term “Jew” is derived from “Judah,” one of the 12 tribes of Israel, it came to represent the people of Israel as a whole, particularly after the Babylonian Exile.

Historically, the 12 tribes of Israel were descended from the 12 sons of Jacob (also known as Israel). The tribe of Judah became…[Read more]

You can’t have one without the other.

No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

@DT

All that the Devil can do is to separate the Father from the Son because he knows that we need both of them. John 17:3 and Psalm 2

DT,

YOU: You say the Jesus prophesied of his own death for the sins of others; I’ll ask again, when did God change his mind and say the innocent can take on the guilt of the wicked?

ME: I explained this to you thoroughly with scriptural examples, but your response was to ignore it and change the subject. God didn’t change his mind, you m…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU:

In your previous post you quote Deut 18:18-19 and make the presumption it’s pointing to the Jesus; did you read 15-22, it’s speaking of future prophets God will be sending. In the same post you speak of a “second coming” and it being “astonishing news”, is that the way the Jewish people would have understood the writings of the prop…[Read more]

Hi DT,

YOU: I’m really not following your “gotcha moment”; it’s like you’re saying the Israelite’s aren’t Jewish. To me it appears you’re playing pretend, intentional ignorance. Are the Israelite’s of the Tanakh Jewish or not? Again, Paul tells us there isn’t a difference between Jew or Gentile; was Paul speaking of a single tribe – HARDLY! He…[Read more]

DT, Can’t believe your so ignorant that you ask such questions,  it only shows how much you truly do not know what scriptures say.

1….”FAITH IS,  the substance of things hoped for, (how) by the “EVIDENCE” of things not seen.  You need to get your own “proof” that God does actually exist, and is involved in you life. Without that you have only “su…[Read more]

@Gene,

What specifically did the Jesus “demonstrate” that mankind was to follow? You keep saying the same thing over and over that he “demonstrated”, but never say what he did. One leads by example, what did he do?

You keep saying we must have “faith” and “faith in God”; how do you understand “faith”, what does it mean to you? What was this…[Read more]

DT, you said…….> “Finally you say, “Jesus came as a flesh human” – so, he’s divine?!? What you’re saying doesn’t make sense, explain exactly what did the Jesus “DEMONSTRATE” that mankind was to follow? He told everyone to keep the law.

Please make sense of it.”

Me…..How does being born as a flesh being make you Devine? I don’t believe Jesus w…[Read more]

@Gene,

DT, you said…….You say the Jesus prophesied of his own death for the sins of others; I’ll ask again, when did God change his mind and say the innocent can take on the guilt of the wicked?

You may want to consult with Jodi as I copied and pasted her words. Stop shooting the messanger.

Jesus whole life was for the sins of others, meani…

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DT, you said…….You say the Jesus prophesied of his own death for the sins of others; I’ll ask again, when did God change his mind and say the innocent can take on the guilt of the wicked?

Jesus whole life was for the sins of others, meaning all of mankind, he “DEMONSTRATED” to USA all, what is required OF  us “ALL”  to have a right relatio…[Read more]

@Jodi,

Hi DT,

YOU: Nothing is written that says the Messiah was to come, do nothing, leave for a couple millennia, and return one day. Why do the Jews reject the Jesus as the Messiah; he never did what was prophesied and there is no verse that says the Messiah was to come twice.

ME: Just to pull what I said all together in my last posts that was…

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@Jodi,

Hi DT,

YOU: To say he will accomplish what was prophesied when he returns is improvable. Nothing is written that says the Messiah was to come, do nothing, leave for a couple millennia, and return one day.

ME: Do nothing???????

Do we say he did nothing? We believe through God, according to God’s will, plan and by the power of His Spirit,…

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@Jodi,

In the following “You” being myself and the “Me” being yourself

Yes, of course Jesus would need to meet all of the requirements, not just one which is why I provided a response to each of the requirements that you gave.

YOU: The reason the passage about the Messiah being Jewish is included, is because it’s a requirement; why would I l…

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