Hi Proclaimer

Trinity, Binity, Zeroinity have this in common. Jesus Christ is not truly the son of Godto them. The bible applies a term to people who deny the Son. Can you guess what that might be.

The Son is the reflection of the glory of the Father, the very imprint of HIS PERSON.
WHICH MEANS AMONG OTHER THINGS THAT HE SHARES THE ATTRIBUTES…[Read more]

Trinity, Binity, Zeroinity have this in common. Jesus Christ is not truly the son of God. The bible applies a term to people who deny the Son.

But for us, there is one God the Father and one Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ. And it was God that made him Lord.

Gene

There are many more examples where the agent speaks as if he were the principle , Jesus was God the Father agent and carries the authority of the Father also.  He is the exact representation  of God the Father to us, sent from the Father himself.  But none of that ever made Jesus , God himself. 

Me

Interesting Gene…

JESUS IS NAM…[Read more]

To all…….Jesus never acted in the capacity of a Creator God at all never did he ever mention a prexisting life he had,  he only mentioned a preordained  Glory,  and other aspects of his life, which related to the prophecies regarding him,   that is all I have ever got from our text.

What I believe is This,  Jesus was a human active  Servan…[Read more]

Hi to all

Daily Devotional

CHEYENNE MOUNTAIN

AN AMAZING FACT: Hidden 2,000 feet beneath Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado, is the world’s most sophisticated military headquarters. NORAD, the North American Aerospace Defense Command, is a joint U.S. and Canadian command center, set up in the 1960s. Their task was to coordinate military efforts in t…[Read more]

Hi Adam,

It is refreshing that you also see that the NT is declaring Jesus as a “Co-person with God in all activities starting from the first creation and ending with new creation mainly based on the NT”, as you say.

Would you say that the blanks could have also said that Jesus was a Co-Yahweh with God or something similar to that?

If you kept this list going but added what the book of John claims and the book of Hebrews claim and what the modern day Protestant church claims, how would you complete the sentence. For example:

The book of John claims that Jesus was _______…

The book of Hebrews claims that Jesus was _______…

The modern day Protestant church claims that Jes…

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Hi Gadam

You certainly know this text :

What do You think about ?

1Cor.13

Hi Berean, thank you so much for your encouragement through the ‘Charity Chapter’ in the Bible.

Hi Adam,

You said this to Gene:

 Please take the example of Mike who calls Jesus another god among the multiple gods mentioned in the OT. Sister Kathi claims Jesus as another Yahweh along with Father Yahweh. Proclaimer and other preexisting believers claim that Jesus was created by God before all creation and came to Jerusalem after leaving his…

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Hi Mike,

Carmel: So THERE’S A CLEAR  POSSIBILITY  that the earth that was ORIGINALLY created by God as being destroyed by God’s PREDETERMINED PLAN of a rebellion that preceded THIS KIND OF man’s existence upon THIS KIND OF planet.

You: There is nothing in the scriptures to indicate any such thing. 

And heaven wasn’t created until day 2…[Read more]

In spite of all the above skepticism I am still maintaining my spirituality in the family and society but with love and much humanity with my fellow beings.

Hi Gadam

You certainly know this text :

What do You think about ?

1Cor.13
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a…[Read more]

Proclaimer : God flooded the earth in Noah’s day. God will renew the earth with fire next. So ask yourself how God will make a new heavens and new earth because you obviously have to hold that God will actually delete the current heavens and earth and rebuild a new one from scratch. If so, then to be consistent with your teaching, you are forced t…[Read more]

You seem to not really be seeking “truth”, but have thrown your hat in with the  way the world thinks,  the deceived  .  SAD

Hi brother Gene, I know you may not be happy about my statements on God and religion these days. I have been searching the truth for the past 25 years. I had started this journey with Trinity and landed on skeptic…[Read more]

What I think you are really saying.

As far as I’m concerned, I don’t care about science until it goes along with my interpretation which is the stance that the SDA takes regarding this passage in THE WORD OF GOD.

So you admit that you are unscientific. That is fine. But what scripture exactly proves to you that creation was made in 6 literal 24…[Read more]

Adam……If you were rational then you would understand what “fallen Christanity” is saying is what is wrong , not what the “original” meaning of the text says.  No where does Jesus say there are other God, nor does he ever call himself a God of a kind, in fact he tells he is not God or a God of anykind .  He calls God the Father this “THE “O…[Read more]

GET AWAY FROM THOSE JEWS , WHO REJECT OUR Lord Jesus Christ,   our true MESSIAH, whom God the Father sent to us and for us brother, and is about to send him back soon. Time is short Adam , “VERY SHORT” , DON’T LET THOSE UNBELIEVING JEW’S CAUSE YOU TO LOOSE OUT , they reject him because they don’t want the blood of Jesus,  the true “Messiah” to…

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Adam……I disagree with you on the idea that the New Testement was just for the Hebrews, alone. The apostle Paul who wrote most of the books, was an apostle to the Gentiles.  While the first to receive were the Jew’s only a 1/13 part of the nation of Israel , and they rejected it, as you seem to be now doing,  then came the Gentiles , after t…[Read more]

Thanks for your understanding mine. But the Christian Messiah is no where near to that of Hebrew Messiah.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion and you are sovereign over your own choices. the messiah is there for us to choose or reject. You have chosen.

Hi Proclaimer, you are not much keen on my posts as I am for none here. I am a rationalist on the religion. Please read my posts on Mike’s “Many Gods of the Bible”. I find the NT writings are more developed and evolved after so many centuries but are more mythological than those of Hebrew scriptures.