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    @gadam123 @mikeboll64

    Just checking if you have a new no 1 flat earth verse in the bible?

    I figure you do not. But I guess i should check rather than assume this.

    Let me know that the bible doesn’t teach a flat earth or provide a verse to prove your assertion.

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    Flat Earther: Why not send average citizens into space so they can see the globe.

    Okay.

    This is James May from the British TV Show TOP GEAR aboard a Lockheed U-2 spy plane ascending to the edge of our atmosphere and witnessing the observable curvature of the earth from 70,000 feet.
    May, along with his copresenters Richard Hammond and Jeremy…[Read more]

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    If the Earth is flat, then how come in reality, the blue latitude line is a shorter to traverse than the red latitude latitude line near the equator?

    I bet no flat earther will explain it. They will ignore it and carry on with their lies.

    lines

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    How did this bad boy come through the firmament. I have a theory, The firmament is open sky.

    “And God said, Let the waters swarm with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.”

    bad-boy

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    Carmel…….Again you prove you “really” don’t believe what Jesus actually said,   so i will quote him again for you ok?   JESUS SAID (Not me)…….“the words i am telling you are “Not” My Words,  but the words,  of “him”,  who sent me”.   And again,  “the son of man can do “nothing” of himself” the Father who is “in ” him “HE” does the works”…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Daily Devotional

    BELOVED

    According to one contest and survey, the longest-married couple in the United States has been married for 82 years! Worldwide Marriage Encounter, a faith-based marriage enrichment program, recently sponsored this contest to find the longest-married couple in America. More than 300 couples were…[Read more]

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    Mike:Every heavenly son of God is “God’s own son”.  After all, who else’s son would they be if not God’s?  

    Me

    Yes by creation

    But they are not (heavenly sons)of the very substance of God, nor are they the reflection of his glory, and the imprint of his person, they are not GOD IN SUBSTANCE (NATURE, ESSENCE…) AS WAS THE SON OF GOD (IN THE…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    You:CARMEL…..Yes thoise who have the “anointing” spirit “in” them are indeed members of CHRIST, OR THE “ANOINTED” ONES, THE SAME AS jesus is. We are his brothers,  or haven’t you ever read, ” Jesus  christ,  the first born of “many” brethern”.  

    Gene, I’m afraid YOU ARE  miles away from JESUS’PROCESS IN RELATION TO HIS REDEMPTION  WHI…[Read more]

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    LU: Thank you Berean, you understand… He is the only begotten Son of God as Jesus, Himself tells us in John 3:16:

    16“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 

    The God whom I worship and serve as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and everything in them…[Read more]

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    Berean: Hi Mike

    I assume that LU means by “Biological son” what is written in Romans 8 (in capitals)
    verse 3: For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending HIS OWN SON in the likeness of sinful flesh…

    Hi Berean.  I appreciate the comment, but that would fit any of God’s sons.  Do you know of the singer Marvin…[Read more]

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    LU: Do they also believe that Jesus was created?

    See how you want to make another ridiculous point.

    Do you think that the true Light that entered the world has some people blinded?

    I’m not sure how pointing out that two of YOUR favorite Trinitarian commentators agree with all the other commentators on that page that Satan is the god of this…[Read more]

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    Mike: Who is right, Kathi?  Proclaimer or the Bible?

     

    LU:  The answer has nothing to do with us both having the same concern about your teaching.  If we have different views of what passage abc means, it is ridiculous to extrapolate that as a reason we couldn’t both be concerned about what you are doing.

    It appears as if you’re saying that…[Read more]

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    Mike: John 17:21…  that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.

    So in your mind, is that Jesus saying that his disciples – and all who will come to believe through them – will also be a part of Jesus and a part of God?  Yes or No, please.

     

    LU:  Yes…

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    LU:  Gen 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

    Brilliant.  Way to use the scriptures to completely refute my claim.  Adam was clearly a bad example.  Allow me to try again…

    LU:  A son, by default is a biological offspring of the paren…

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    @Proclaimer

    reposted for your convenience, please answer:

    Proclaimer,

    You said:

    You either believe or you don’t. Fine.
    So, what do YOU proclaim, Proclaimer? Do you think that God could produce a “biological” son, one that comes through some sort of an asexual reproductive process and in that manner the son is the actual, literal offsp…[Read more]

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    Amen, Berean!

    May God bless you with increased understanding as you continue to seek the Father and the Son and their Spirit!!

    LU

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    Hi LU

    Thank you Berean, you understand. Jesus is a son of God in the highest, truest sense begotten before the ages. He is unique as a son compared to any other entity that has been identified as a son of God in some other manner. He is the only begotten Son of God as Jesus, Himself tells us in John 3:16: 

    We agree on this essential point.
    God…[Read more]

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    China’s Longjiang-2 satellite photographed the Moon’s far side and the Earth in a single shot. There is speculation that China want to own the far side of the moon and then develop things there so the world cannot see. But Mike thinks that China is working with the US and all other countries with a space program to hide the flat earth from us.

    Moon-Earth

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