Mike,

You asked:

 Yes or No, please.

Yes. Not the same part though. There is the “them” part and the “us” part. The Father and Son are of the “US” and the followers of Christ are to be part of the “them.”

There is an “us” and a “them”…a “we” and a “they.” There will always be an “us” and a “them.” Those in the “US” group are desiring to be a…[Read more]

Mike,

This is also a ridiculous question of yours:

You asked:

 Who is right, Kathi?  Proclaimer or the Bible?

The answer has nothing to do with us both having the same concern about your teaching.  If we have different views of what passage abc means, it is ridiculous to extrapolate that as a reason we couldn’t both be concerned about what yo…[Read more]

Mike: You say he is a PART of that God .

 

LU: So does Jesus.

John 17:20   …You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You.

John 17:21…  that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You. May they also be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me.

So in your mind, is that Jesus saying that his disciples – and all…[Read more]

Another ridiculous comment from you, Mike:

You asked:

 Are we told anything otherwise about Adam that we aren’t also told about Jesus?

How about this…

Gen 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

Mike:  2.  And is Jesus the Son OF the God that you worship and serve as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and all that is in them?

 

LU:  I worship both the Father and the Son as the creator of heaven and earth, sea, and all that is in them.

That’s not what I asked you.  Please directly and honestly answer the question I actually asked.  Thanks.

Mike,

You said:

You say he is a PART of that God .

So does Jesus.

John 17:20   …You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You.

Mike: No scripture ever mentions “biological son” in reference to Jesus and God.

LU:  That is an example of one of your ridiculous arguments that you think should actually be made.

Great.  Let’s see if the argument actually IS ridiculous, or if maybe you just don’t understand it.

LU:  A son, by default is a biological offspring of the parent.…

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LU:  I see two people here that have given you a lot of their time trying to help you and we are both telling you similar things.

Correction, you are both attacking me personally – instead of my scripturally supported arguments.  Case in point…

LU:  …you are the one being exposed as the puppet of the master deceiver. It isn’t even hard for…

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Mike,

You ask:

2.  And is Jesus the Son OF the God that you worship and serve as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and all that is in them?

I worship both the Father and the Son as the creator of heaven and earth, sea, and all that is in them.

Rev 5

13And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and al…[Read more]

Mike,

You said:

No scripture ever mentions “biological son” in reference to Jesus and God.

That is an example of one of your ridiculous arguments that you think should actually be made.

A son, by default is a biological offspring of the parent. That should be your assumption unless told otherwise. The term “biological son” isn’t used of any son…[Read more]

Mike:  1. KATHI, WHO EXACTLY IS THE “GOD” THAT YOU WORSHIP AND SERVE AS THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN, EARTH, SEA, AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM?

 

LU:  YAHWEH, THE GOD OF GODS AND THE LORD OF LORDS.

2.  And is Jesus the Son OF the God that you worship and serve as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and all that is in them?

LU:  Mike, who exactly do you thi…

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Mike,

You asked:

Can you see the similarities?

I see two people here that have given you a lot of their time trying to help you and we are both telling you similar things. Maybe you should ask YHVH if there is any truth to it instead of just dismissing it.

Today the pastor was sharing about how he was planning on doing something in ministry…[Read more]

LU: …you don’t believe that the only begotten God, Jesus, shares the name of YHVH. I do. That very point is blinding you to the gospel of God.

Does anyone in the NT call Jesus “Yahweh”?  Since not, are Jesus’ apostles who wrote the NT also blinded to the gospel?  (They do, however, call him the servant OF the God who created all things, rig…[Read more]

1.  KATHI, WHO EXACTLY IS THE “GOD” THAT YOU WORSHIP AND SERVE AS THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN, EARTH, SEA, AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM?
YAHWEH, THE GOD OF GODS AND THE LORD OF LORDS.

Mike, who exactly do you think is the theos of this age that blinds the mind of the unbelievers?

Hi Kathi.  I just read every word of your novel, and wanted to point something out.  Here are a couple snippets of things Proclaimer has said recently…

Proclaimer:  Take gadam for example. He has come to the conclusion that the Bible is myth and Mike just adds more myth and gadam eats it up. They bounce off each other but the sad part is Mike is…

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Hi Mike

Proclaimer, if heaven and earth and sun were already in existence by the end of Gen 1:1, why was there darkness over the surface of the deep in Gen 1:2? 

God question Mike 👍

Mike,

To sum up all your posts today, you don’t believe that the only begotten God, Jesus, shares the name of YHVH. I do. That very point is blinding you to the gospel of God. In that way, the God of this age (Peter’s righteous God and Savior, Jesus Christ) has blinded you. This is not so different to  the light came into the world and some…[Read more]

I saved the best for last…

LU: For example…in this passage Jesus kept talking about “my Father” this and “My Father” that, referring to God, and the surrounding Jews basically thought that by calling YHVH as your very own biological father, you are making yourself out to be a begotten god.

33The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not st…

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LU: Can YOU call Jesus the Only Begotten Son of God?

Yes, but I might now be speaking in past tense if I do so.  (Others may have been begotten by God since Jesus was begotten by God when he was raised from the dead.)  Consider…

John 1:12-13… But to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become chi…[Read more]

LU: Mike,

Who is El Elyon or El Shaddai ?

Shaddai, from https://www.ancient-hebrew.org/studies-words/meaning-of-el-shaddai.htm …

The Hebrew word שדי (shaddai) also has the meaning of a “teat.” Just as the goat provides nourishment to its kids through the milk, God nourishes his children through his milk and provides all the necessiti…

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