Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years, 1 month ago
Berean,
Regarding my question to you here:
That “servant” you write of is called Yahweh at times and served with creating the universe, is that what you believe?
You said: My answer is a BIG YES!
Amen!
Now, please confirm that you believe the Father is called Yahweh and His own Son is called Yahweh and both are involved in bringing about cre…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
Danny: Hi Proclaimer and Mike,
I have a question for both of you:
Can “gravity” be proven?
If not then our earth can’t possibly be a globe!It cannot be proven true, Danny. In order to do so, we’d have to take two bodies of mass to a place where no other bodies of mass could act upon them, and see if they are drawn to each other. We are unab…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
Proclaimer: And you notice huge discrepancies in the 24 hour day doctrine of Genesis.
I have no discrepancies… but I’m willing to hear you out.
Proclaimer: For example, you say the sun was created on day 3 or 4 or whatever…
No, it’s not “whatever”. Nor is it me who is saying it. It is God who taught us that He created the sun on Day 4. It’s…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
Proclaimer: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Mike, it’s all very simple.</span>
<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>You say a day is always 24 hours and Genesis is no exception.</span>
I’ve never said that.
Proclaimer: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>But when you see that there is day and night, then you see that day can mean around 12 hours which is not…
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
Carmel: ACCORDING TO YOU, MIKE!
GENESIS 1:1
IS AN INTRODUCTORY STATEMENT!GENESIS 1:1
IS ALSO GOD’S FIRST ACT OF CREATION!GENESIS 1:1
GOD DID NOT CREATE THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH!You can also search and find posts where I argued that heaven was created after earth, because I used to understand Gen 1:2 as referring to an already formed ea…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
Genesis 1:5
Light=day
Darkness=Night
evening+morning=1 day
Do not confuse the word day which is evening + morning with the word day which expresses “light”
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
Mike, very few people will subscribe to your world view.
You say that God created a flat earth in 6 x 24 hour periods, despite the Sun which gives us night and day being created for half of those days.
Most will just ignore you Mike.
I do not know if you are like this because your heart is wayward and this guides your mind or if you have issues…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
Young Earth Creationism
Mike, it’s all very simple.You say a day is always 24 hours and Genesis is no exception.
But when you see that there is day and night, then you see that day can mean around 12 hours which is not 24 hours.
Then when you read that a day to God is not like a day to us and that we were not even around, then it becomes…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
You: The First Day
GEN 1:1… IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH.
This is an introductory statement.
It introduces the event that is about to be described in more detail.Mike, read your inconsistency:
conspiracy-theories-myths-or-truth/page/55:
FEBRUARY 13, 2022 AT 1:52 PM #900138
You: Genesis 1:1 says God creat…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
Okay Proclaimer, Gene, and Carmel. Please challenge my last four posts about the first four days of creation. Please call out any errors or misunderstandings you think I have. Please prove my understanding wrong if you can. Thanks.
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
The Fourth Day
Gen 1:14-15… And God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to distinguish between the day and the night, and let them be signs to mark the seasons and days and years. And let them serve as lights in the firmament of heaven to shine upon the earth.” And it was so.
This is the very beginning of the existence of the…[Read more]mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
The Third Day
Gen 1:9-10… And God said, “Let the waters under the firmament be gathered into one place, so that the dry land may appear.” And it was so. God called the dry land “earth,” and the gathering of waters He called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
Here we learn that, after the waters were separated into the portion below the f…[Read more]mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
The Second Day
Gen 1:6…And God said, “Let there be a firmament between the waters, to separate the waters from the waters.”
The firmament is clearly a solid object. We know this because of the meaning of its root word “raqa”, because Job describes it as “hard as a mirror of cast bronze” (37:18), and because it supports the waters above it. …[Read more]mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
The First Day
Gen 1:1… In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
This is an introductory statement. It introduces the the event that is about to be described in more detail. A similar introductory statement is used in Gen 2:4. At this point, there exists neither heaven nor earth.
Gen 1:2… Now the earth was formless and void, an…[Read more]mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
Okay Proclaimer… here’s what we’ve learned about your interpretation of Gen 1:
1. The creation of heaven automatically includes the creation of the things IN heaven, but the creation of earth DOESN’T include the creation of the things ON earth. You can’t explain this discrepancy.
2. The words, “Let there be light – and there was light” re…[Read more]
mikeboll64 replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
Hey Berean, that long article you posted argued the same points that I’ve been trying to make based solely on the Bible and God-given common sense. Great read, thanks. The only fault I have with it is the “spinning ball” reference…
“Light was in existence, coming from one direction upon a rotating earth, resulting in the day and night c…
Berean replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
Gene Berean……Peter said, “but beloved, be you not ignorant of this one thing: that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”
He was telling us, that a day equals a thousand years to God , and THOUSAND YEARS equals a day. 1000 DAYS = 1 DAY, AND 1 DAY = 1000 YEARS, They are equal to eachother wit…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
Berean……Peter said, “but beloved, be you not ignorant of this one thing: that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”
He was telling us, that a day equals a thousand years to God , and THOUSAND YEARS equals a day. 1000 DAYS = 1 DAY, AND 1 DAY = 1000 YEARS, They are equal to eachother with the L…[Read more]
Berean replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
Proclaimer,
Berean, I am not saying it is a thousand years.
Me
You are not saying that , BUT You Take 2 Peter 3 FOR WHAT ?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 4 years, 1 month ago
When Flat Earthers Ruled

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