• Profile picture of Lightenup

    Another ridiculous comment from you, Mike:

    You asked:

     Are we told anything otherwise about Adam that we aren’t also told about Jesus?

    How about this…

    Gen 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

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    Mike:  2.  And is Jesus the Son OF the God that you worship and serve as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and all that is in them?

     

    LU:  I worship both the Father and the Son as the creator of heaven and earth, sea, and all that is in them.

    That’s not what I asked you.  Please directly and honestly answer the question I actually asked.  Thanks.

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    Mike,

    You said:

    You say he is a PART of that God .

    So does Jesus.

    John 17:20   …You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You.

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    Mike: No scripture ever mentions “biological son” in reference to Jesus and God.

    LU:  That is an example of one of your ridiculous arguments that you think should actually be made.

    Great.  Let’s see if the argument actually IS ridiculous, or if maybe you just don’t understand it.

    LU:  A son, by default is a biological offspring of the parent.…

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    LU:  I see two people here that have given you a lot of their time trying to help you and we are both telling you similar things.

    Correction, you are both attacking me personally – instead of my scripturally supported arguments.  Case in point…

    LU:  …you are the one being exposed as the puppet of the master deceiver. It isn’t even hard for…

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    Mike,

    You ask:

    2.  And is Jesus the Son OF the God that you worship and serve as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and all that is in them?

    I worship both the Father and the Son as the creator of heaven and earth, sea, and all that is in them.

    Rev 5

    13And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and al…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    You said:

    No scripture ever mentions “biological son” in reference to Jesus and God.

    That is an example of one of your ridiculous arguments that you think should actually be made.

    A son, by default is a biological offspring of the parent. That should be your assumption unless told otherwise. The term “biological son” isn’t used of any son…[Read more]

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    Mike:  1. KATHI, WHO EXACTLY IS THE “GOD” THAT YOU WORSHIP AND SERVE AS THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN, EARTH, SEA, AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM?

     

    LU:  YAHWEH, THE GOD OF GODS AND THE LORD OF LORDS.

    2.  And is Jesus the Son OF the God that you worship and serve as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and all that is in them?

    LU:  Mike, who exactly do you thi…

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    Mike,

    You asked:

    Can you see the similarities?

    I see two people here that have given you a lot of their time trying to help you and we are both telling you similar things. Maybe you should ask YHVH if there is any truth to it instead of just dismissing it.

    Today the pastor was sharing about how he was planning on doing something in ministry…[Read more]

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    LU: …you don’t believe that the only begotten God, Jesus, shares the name of YHVH. I do. That very point is blinding you to the gospel of God.

    Does anyone in the NT call Jesus “Yahweh”?  Since not, are Jesus’ apostles who wrote the NT also blinded to the gospel?  (They do, however, call him the servant OF the God who created all things, rig…[Read more]

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    1.  KATHI, WHO EXACTLY IS THE “GOD” THAT YOU WORSHIP AND SERVE AS THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN, EARTH, SEA, AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM?
    YAHWEH, THE GOD OF GODS AND THE LORD OF LORDS.

    Mike, who exactly do you think is the theos of this age that blinds the mind of the unbelievers?

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    Hi Kathi.  I just read every word of your novel, and wanted to point something out.  Here are a couple snippets of things Proclaimer has said recently…

    Proclaimer:  Take gadam for example. He has come to the conclusion that the Bible is myth and Mike just adds more myth and gadam eats it up. They bounce off each other but the sad part is Mike is…

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    Hi Mike

    Proclaimer, if heaven and earth and sun were already in existence by the end of Gen 1:1, why was there darkness over the surface of the deep in Gen 1:2? 

    God question Mike 👍

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    Mike,

    To sum up all your posts today, you don’t believe that the only begotten God, Jesus, shares the name of YHVH. I do. That very point is blinding you to the gospel of God. In that way, the God of this age (Peter’s righteous God and Savior, Jesus Christ) has blinded you. This is not so different to  the light came into the world and some…[Read more]

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    I saved the best for last…

    LU: For example…in this passage Jesus kept talking about “my Father” this and “My Father” that, referring to God, and the surrounding Jews basically thought that by calling YHVH as your very own biological father, you are making yourself out to be a begotten god.

    33The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not st…

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    LU: Can YOU call Jesus the Only Begotten Son of God?

    Yes, but I might now be speaking in past tense if I do so.  (Others may have been begotten by God since Jesus was begotten by God when he was raised from the dead.)  Consider…

    John 1:12-13… But to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become chi…[Read more]

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    LU: Mike,

    Who is El Elyon or El Shaddai ?

    Shaddai, from https://www.ancient-hebrew.org/studies-words/meaning-of-el-shaddai.htm

    The Hebrew word שדי (shaddai) also has the meaning of a “teat.” Just as the goat provides nourishment to its kids through the milk, God nourishes his children through his milk and provides all the necessiti…

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    Mike:  Does the fact that Yahweh (in Deut 10:17) and Jesus (in Rev 17:14) are both called the Lord of lords NECESSARILY mean that they are part of some “Unity Entity” comprised of two persons?  Yes or No?

     

    LU:  No

    There you have it.  Your doctrine is largely based on the fact that both Jesus and God (and a bunch of other people throughout history…[Read more]

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    Mike:  So your argument that Jesus came to earth to say, “Hey, btw, your God’s name is Yahweh” is ridiculous.

     

    LU:  That is not my argument.

    If your argument is that “I have made your name known” means that Jesus taught God’s literal personal name to people who already knew it, then that is indeed your argument.  And it is indeed a ridiculo…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of mikeboll64

    I posted this a couple of weeks ago, but didn’t get any answers…

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    Please answer my question, guys.

    Danny?  Does it make sense to you that the red line by the zero is what Jesus would have called “the BEGINNING of creation”?

    Adam?  Please answer.

    Gene?  Please answer.

    Carmel?  Please answer.

    Pretender?  Please answer.

    Thanks.

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