Mike: But you’ll have to concede that every single one of those things that “existed” before they passed through the birth canal DIDN’T exist before their pre-birth “existence”.

LU:  Did the Son exist before Mary conceived? 

Hmm…  Many will be resurrected from the dead to live again.  They will also have existed before being begotten by God.…[Read more]

Mike: Hi Berean…

Does the God you worship as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and all that in them is have a son and servant named Jesus Christ?  Yes or No?

Berean:  THE ANSWER IS YES .

Your turn, Kathi.  Same question.  What is your direct answer?  Yes or No, please.

Gene: Mike…….So in your logic of the earth being,  only the dry land,  then when God covered theearth with water , the earth disapeared right. “Nonsense” , the earth was still there but covered with water.

Does the Bible say the earth was “formless” and “naught” during the flood, like it says in Gen 1:2?

As usual, Gene, your argument is not wit…[Read more]

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>Hi Mike,</span>

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>YOU: You can also search and find posts where I argued that </span>

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>heaven was created after earth, </span>

ME: The reason that you argued as such only because you looked at the word “HEAVEN” from one perspective; simply physical!

You also…[Read more]

Mike…….So in your logic of the earth being onky the dry land,  then when God covered tgecearth with water , the earth disapeared right. “Nonsense” , the earth was still there but covered with water. Earth is earth , even if it is covered with water.

GEN 1:2…..in the Hebrew the wording shows,  the earth came to be , tohu and bohu,  not th…[Read more]

Hi LU

THE FATHER AND SON HAVE THE SAME FAMILY’S DIVINE NAME :YAHWEH

JESUS or Yeshua is the name OF the Son as man in the flesh.

They worked together in the work of creation and went on together for the work of re-creation (redemption) of mankind.

They are ONE IN SPIRIT (MIND), IN HEARTH,

IN GOAL, BUT NOT IN PERSON(they are two divines…[Read more]

Hi to all

Daily Devotional

OVERWHELMING FORGIVENESS 

A Gallup Poll once found that 94 percent of Americans would like to be forgiving. But 85 percent felt that they could not be forgiving by themselves; in order to forgive, they needed help from God or something outside themselves. Why do most people find it so hard to forgive? Maybe it has…[Read more]

Thanks for your reply, Proclaimer.

You said:

Or they say that he is God and as old as God.

150 AD Justin Martyr “The Father of the universe has a Son, who also being the first begotten Word of God, is even God.” (Justin Martyr, First Apology, ch 63)
150 AD Justin Martyr “Christ is called both God and Lord of hosts.” (Dialogue with Trypho, ch,…[Read more]

Berean,

Regarding my question to you here:

That “servant” you write of is called Yahweh at times and served with creating the universe, is that what you believe?

You said: My answer is a BIG YES!

Amen!

Now, please confirm that you believe the Father is called Yahweh and His own Son is called Yahweh and both are involved in bringing about cre…[Read more]

Danny: Hi Proclaimer and Mike,

I have a question for both of you:
Can “gravity” be proven?
If not then our earth can’t possibly be a globe!

It cannot be proven true, Danny.  In order to do so, we’d have to take two bodies of mass to a place where no other bodies of mass could act upon them, and see if they are drawn to each other.  We are unab…[Read more]

Proclaimer: And you notice huge discrepancies in the 24 hour day doctrine of Genesis.

I have no discrepancies… but I’m willing to hear you out.

Proclaimer: For example, you say the sun was created on day 3 or 4 or whatever…

No, it’s not “whatever”.  Nor is it me who is saying it.  It is God who taught us that He created the sun on Day 4.  It’s…[Read more]

Proclaimer: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>Mike, it’s all very simple.</span>

<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>You say a day is always 24 hours and Genesis is no exception.</span>

I’ve never said that.

Proclaimer: <span style=”color: #ff0000;”>But when you see that there is day and night, then you see that day can mean around 12 hours which is not…

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Carmel:  ACCORDING TO YOU, MIKE!

GENESIS 1:1
IS AN INTRODUCTORY STATEMENT!

GENESIS 1:1
IS ALSO GOD’S FIRST ACT OF CREATION!

GENESIS 1:1
GOD DID NOT CREATE THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH!

You can also search and find posts where I argued that heaven was created after earth, because I used to understand Gen 1:2 as referring to an already formed ea…[Read more]

Genesis 1:5
Light=day
Darkness=Night
evening+morning=1 day
Do not confuse the word day which is evening + morning with the word day which expresses “light”
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Mike, very few people will subscribe to your world view.

You say that God created a flat earth in 6 x 24 hour periods, despite the Sun which gives us night and day being created for half of those days.

Most will just ignore you Mike.

I do not know if you are like this because your heart is wayward and this guides your mind or if you have issues…[Read more]

Young Earth Creationism
Mike, it’s all very simple.

You say a day is always 24 hours and Genesis is no exception.

But when you see that there is day and night, then you see that day can mean around 12 hours which is not 24 hours.

Then when you read that a day to God is not like a day to us and that we were not even around, then it becomes…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

You: The First Day
GEN 1:1… IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH.
This is an introductory statement. 
It introduces the event that is about to be described in more detail. 

Mike, read your inconsistency:

conspiracy-theories-myths-or-truth/page/55:

FEBRUARY 13, 2022 AT 1:52 PM #900138

You: Genesis 1:1 says God creat…[Read more]

Okay Proclaimer, Gene, and Carmel.  Please challenge my last four posts about the first four days of creation.  Please call out any errors or misunderstandings you think I have.  Please prove my understanding wrong if you can.  Thanks.

The Fourth Day
Gen 1:14-15…  And God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to distinguish between the day and the night, and let them be signs to mark the seasons and days and years. And let them serve as lights in the firmament of heaven to shine upon the earth.” And it was so.
This is the very beginning of the existence of the…[Read more]

The Third Day
Gen 1:9-10… And God said, “Let the waters under the firmament be gathered into one place, so that the dry land may appear.” And it was so. God called the dry land “earth,” and the gathering of waters He called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
Here we learn that, after the waters were separated into the portion below the f…[Read more]