I can see you are too far gone in the indoctrination department to think critically about reality.

Just like Mike and his flat earth, you struggle with other indoctrination.

I am glad I never handed over my mind and heart to a cult.

I kind of did at one point in my life and nearly left the faith as a result.

But I left that church because I…[Read more]

Proclaimer

When you delve into the scriptures, there are many traditions that are not supported. This nullifies the power of God in one’s life. 

That’s your problem Proclaimer, you don’t go to the Bible alone and you let yourself be influenced by the “evolutionary” ideas that emerged in the early/mid-nineteenth century. You are a cr…[Read more]

150 AD Justin Martyr “The Father of the universe has a Son, who also being the first begotten Word of God, is even God.”

I’m pretty sure that he is saying that he is divine or has the nature of God just as John 1 states.

But it seems that many in the years after such writings were confused about the nature vs identity thing.

Origen says this reg…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

In scripture, “earth” refers ONLY to the dry land upon which we live.  It is usually explicitly distinguished from the water portion of our world.

DEFINITELY, THE WATER PORTION, THE SEA, ORIGINATED FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE REBEL, SATANIC, ONLY THE RIVERS ARE GOD’S, THE FACT THAT IT COMES FROM HEAVEN!

BY WHICH ALL SEA CREATURES LIVE…[Read more]

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You need to be more like the Bereans who studied scripture to see if things were so. I get it though. You belong to a denomination. They have a doctrine. It is settled. But not all are like that of course. When you delve into the scriptures, there are many traditions that are not supported. This nullifies the power of God in one’s life.

For…[Read more]

Proclaimer

I don’t believe in the flat earth, but IN THE ONE WHO CREATED THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH IN SIX DAYS AND ALL IN IT AND RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY.

YOU ARE LEANING ON A SINGLE VERSE TO TRY TO PROVE YOUR ONE DAY THEORY “IS LIKE A THOUSAND YEARS”

BUT PETER HAS NEVER USED THIS EXPRESSION TO SPEAK TO US OF AN EQUIVALENCE BETWEEN 1 DAY AND A…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

You: So yes, Carmel, I had a completely different understanding of Gen 1 when I began this whole “Bible Vs Scientism” topic.  That’s what these forums are for…

to refine our understanding by delving ever deeper into the scriptures.

NOW ACCORDING TO YOU IN THESE LAST EIGHT YEARS YOU WENT BACKWARD INSTEAD UNFORTUNATELY, SO YOU STILL AR…[Read more]

Yup, it is flat. Trust your senses.

PROCLAIMER, IF I SPOKE OF “BACK IN THE MORNING OF THE THIRD DAY OF MY GRANDMOTHER” – WOULD I BE TALKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC LITERAL DAY?  OR A VERY LONG UNSPECIFIED PERIOD OF TIME?

I’m willing to bet that your grandmother is human.

A day for a human is usually 12 or 24 hours.

But not for God.

And I do find it funny that you believe there was ev…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

YOU: You can also search and find posts where I argued that

heaven was created after earth,

ME: The reason that you argued as such only because you looked at the word “HEAVEN” from one perspective; simply physical!

You also looked likewise at the word “EARTH” , WHICH IS NOT THE PROPER WAY YOU SHOULD READ AND UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURE, THE…[Read more]

Our week is a reflection of the creation week. It is not the same in timing as has been proven.

You just need to renew your mind and have eyes to see.

But once indoctrinated, it is human nature to defend what they have believed, even beyond reason.

Such are not being led by the Spirit as the Spirit reveals truth and changes us each…[Read more]

Mike

Wow!  It’s the same exact language as is used about the creation!  It even has a command from God to do something for six days, and then something else on the seventh day.  Now where have we heard that before?

Exodus 20:9-11… Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you sh…[Read more]

Hi Mike

They are not only two distinct persons, as you pointed out.  They are also two distinct gods. 

Me

Show me the apostles of Christ speaking this way, please.

Hey Proclaimer and all.  I just stumbled across this while fighting this same fight on a different discussion forum…

Joshua 6:2-15… Then the Lord said to Joshua… March around the city once with all the armed men. Do this for six days…  On the seventh day, march around the city seven times… 

Joshua got up early the next morning and th…[Read more]

Berean: They are ONE IN SPIRIT (MIND), IN HEARTH,

IN GOAL, BUT NOT IN PERSON(they are two divines distinct persons)

Hi Berean.  Two points…

1.  Luke 22:42… “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.”

This verse makes is clear that Jesus has his own will that is different from the will of his Fa…[Read more]

LU:  Berean…

Now, please confirm that you believe the Father is called Yahweh and His own Son is called Yahweh and both are involved in bringing about creation and they are one in unity…correct?

Kathi, now please confirm that the God you worship and serve as the Creator of heaven and earth has a Son named Jesus.

Also please confirm that the Go…[Read more]

LU:  The God of this age is Jesus. He has all authority in heaven and on earth, not satan.

You are wrong, but it doesn’t matter.  I just remembered why we even started talking about 1 Cor 4:4.  You asked for an example of Satan being called a god in scripture.  1 Cor 4:4 was one of the examples I gave you.

If you don’t understand that verse as…[Read more]

LU: You asked about John 10:33 and that it should be translated as “a god.” My answer is no, it is translated as “God” and not “a god” as it should be because of what it says in this verse:

John 5:18

For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God H…

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