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    The Sabbath day is once again the topic of discussion and the claim by some of not observing it sinful. YAWN!!!! Please note that this particular religious organization primarily quotes from the Jewish bible to support their doctrine, but the Tanakh was given to Israel and NOT the world!!

    I find it interesting the above Sabbath observer quotes…[Read more]

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    REJECTION OF THE FIVE SMOOTH STONES

    …and rendered helpless against the enemy

    Confrotation and decision

    There’s a storm coming, yea, it is verily upon us. This storm portends eternal consequences. Eerily, it appears as the time of trouble that Daniel and the ancient Jewish prophets, including Jesus Christ, warned the world about. Not u…[Read more]

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    A another thought concerning Revelation being written before the Temple destruction, did the Jesus, as he said, come “soon”? Did those who put him to death see his return? The answer is an emphatic NO!! Since the Jesus didn’t do as he said, it would make him a false “prophet” according to Moses in Deut 18:20-22 saying a false prophet is one who’s…[Read more]

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    @Berean,

    (IBA)

    Are you really this obtuse?!?!? The “my people” isn’t a reference to Israel and Isaiah isn’t the “speaker” in this part; it’s a reference to the nations.

    When are you going to identify who is speaking where?? Once you do that, your muddy water will suddenly become clear.

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    @ DT

    for he was cut off out of the land of the living:
    👉 for the transgression of my people👈 was he stricken.

    Isaiah 53:8b states that the Servant is stricken “for the sins of MY PEOPLE.” If the prophet Isaiah says “my people” (Israel), the Servant who suffers in their place must logically be SOMEONE ELSE: an individual DISTINCT from the…[Read more]

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    @Keith,

    Why do I say Revelation was written before the destruction of the Temple, the words written place it before its destruction.

    Rev 1:7 (Look! He is returning with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all the tribes on the earth will mourn because of him. This will certainly come to pass! Amen.)

    Even…[Read more]

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    @Proclaimer,

    It means something, and it is far more likely to relate to the fulfilment of prophecy than to be a random verse with no real significance.

    In your next post concerning Ps 22; what is the prophetic correlation to the Jesus of David lamenting over being surrounded by his enemies and speaking of what they will do to him if he is caught?…[Read more]

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    @Proclaimer,

    You as do others seem to think that God should have spelled everything out so clearly, that even the enemies of God could have understood it and therefore, not fulfill it.

    You keep returning to this idea; now explain Amos 3:7, “Certainly the sovereign LORD does nothing without first revealing his plan to his servants the p…[Read more]

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    @Proclaimer,

    Where do I begin?!?!? You aren’t connecting the dots. IF you were willing to engage in an actual conversation, it would be wonderful; then we could have a back and forth, asking and answering questions, and explaining our thoughts. What I’ve been finding out, for the christian at least, it’s one sided; it’s what is believed by them…[Read more]

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    That is the consensus, but it is by no means certain.

    If the Jerusalem Temple had already been destroyed, John could be measuring a symbolic temple rather than a physical building. He is told to measure not only the temple and altar, but also “those who worship there” (Revelation 11:1). Elsewhere in the New Testament, believers are called God’s…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer:
    No, its about not casting pearls before swine. If you do that, you put those people into judgment because they have been told a precious truth and then trample on it. It is wiser to not tell them such things, and to give them the basic gospel with the hope that they will be able to receive the deeper things of God.

    DesireTruth
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    Proclaimer, Revelation was written 96 ce. Its 100% about these last days. The world has been watching the things said in it for many years now.

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    You understand Psalm 22 is poetry…right!! So the events spoken aren’t to be taken literal. The next verse says “I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me”, so David’s bones have eyes?!!?

    It means something, and it is far more likely to relate to the fulfilment of prophecy than to be a random verse with no real significan…[Read more]

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    What about when the Jesus says soon in Rev 1:1; 22:6,7,12,20. My understanding of soon isn’t 2000 years. Even at the foundations of your faith they said the Jesus was returning in THEIR day and many sold everything and waited for the Jesus who never came. This event was called “The Great Disappointment” and these people, who now had nothing, left…

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    Still waiting for you to tell me about what John was measuring in Rev 11 as it would point to him measuring the second Temple as it stood in the first century. Which would then place the book of Revelation BEFORE its destruction and render everything  christianity says about the “End Time” as false.

    Why is that?

    If Revelation was written, say, i…[Read more]

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    @Berean,

    (IBA)

    Your “devotional” is another fine example of parachute theology; I found a verse I like, it sounds like what I believe, and will then apply it to my belief system as proof.

    You quote Mal 4:1-3, did you read the next verse??? “Remember the law of my servant Moses, to whom at Horeb I gave rules and regulations for all Israel to ob…[Read more]

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    Hi
    Does the phrase “the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever” mean the fires of hell will never God out?

    The word translated as “forever” in the Bible does not always mean “without end.” In fact, the Bible uses this term 56 times in connection with things that have already ended. (Sometimes you will need to look up the word “ever” in a…[Read more]

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    @Berean,

    (aka I’ll Believe Anything),

    Did you just “back down”?? YUP!! You sure did!!

    You really need to explain the “millennial reign” because at the end Satan is to be released and deceive many; the question is why didn’t the king Jesus let everyone know this was going to happen and prepare them for this? What happened to the NT bible, did i…[Read more]

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    Hi

    A COLOSSAL CLEANING

    It’s not the most pleasant subject, but when a job has to be done, it has to be done. So—what’s the best toilet bowl cleaner on the market? Instead of providing a list of products, here is what many people say they want from a cleanser: It cleans with a single flush; it tackles the toughest stains; it prevents the build…[Read more]

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