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“This is what the Jews believed concerning the Messiah, from Everyman’s Talmud: The Major Teachings of Rabbinic Sages (pg347):

‘the sending of the Messiah was part of the Creator’s plan at the inception of the Universe.’

‘From the beginning of the creation of the world king Messiah was born, for he entered the mind (of God) before eve…[Read more]

Please explain what each of these verses you sited mean and how they relate to a preexisting son in heaven at creation:

Hebrews 1:1-2
1 In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom h…

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Are you going to refute the Jewish mind? Prove scripturally what I have said is wrong!

The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through…[Read more]

because this wasn’t the Jewish belief.

Jewish belief denies that Jesus is the Messiah. If Jewish belief is the standard for truth, then why do you believe that Jesus is the messiah? Or maybe you don’t?

For I, brethren, would not have you be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits: that blindness in part has h…[Read more]

In John’s first epistle, he is warning of falsehoods coming into the early church and to be careful of them. This is less than 50 years after Christ’s ascension. I am puzzled how we don’t see the preexistence doctrine as a man made belief, let alone the trinity. Christ referred to himself as a son of man, meaning he was man, of mankind – not som…

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I will assert both doctrines are false teachings

The Trinity is never mentioned by name or described. However, Jesus Christ being the first born of all creation and having first place in all things is mentioned.

If Jesus Christ is not the Word or the first to be with God then who was?

Bruce? Jack? Lucifer?

If Bruce, then why isn’t all things…[Read more]

Hi to all

Here is the Daily Devotional

THE GREAT EMANCIPATOR

While attempting to sign the Emancipation Proclamation, which legally freed all the slaves living in the southern states of America, Abraham Lincoln’s hand shook so much that he had to put his pen down before adding his signature. After discussing the idea of the Emancipation P…[Read more]

@ Proclaimer,

Clarity of a statement you made in an earlier post (#942749) about how the trinity doctrine and preexistence doctrine are not mutually exclusive. This means both are truth; yet you reject the one and except the other. Was this a typo?

I will assert both doctrines are false teachings, because this wasn’t the Jewish belief. If it w…[Read more]

Here’s a quote from a person who looked into flat earth. Wise words.
I WAS RESEARCHING THE FLAT EARTH…

THE FIRST THING I FOUND OUT IS THAT THERE IS NO FLAT EARTH SCALE (MAP) WHICH SHOWS ALL COUNTRIES AND BORDERS CLEARLY MARKED.

SOME VAGUE MAPS WERE MADE BUT ARENT CIRCULATED AS THEY CANNOT PASS EVEN THE SIMPLEST OF SCRUTINIES.

WITHOUT A MAP…[Read more]

@ Jodi

Jesus is the Son of God BEFORE HE CAME “IN THE FLESH”
PROV.30: 4
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son’s name, if thou canst tell?
At his baptism, he did not become…[Read more]

@ Proclaimer,

Please explain what each of these verses you sited mean and how they relate to a preexisting son in heaven at creation:

Hebrews 1:1-2
1 In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and t…[Read more]

@desiretruth

You think that the Trinity Doctrine is wrong and I agree with you on that.

But you also seem to think that rejecting the Trinity Doctrine means that you need to reject Jesus as existing with divine nature in heaven before emptying himself and coming in the flesh. Why do you need to reject that? The Trinity teaches that Jesus is God…[Read more]

@desiretruth

#10 doesn’t make sense, Jesus was in heaven at creation as God’s son, came to earth and became a man, only to return to heaven as the son again? Please clarify.

Why doesn’t it make sense?

Hebrews 1:1-2
1 In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways,
2 but in these last days he has…[Read more]

@ Carmel,

Again I ask you, what faith do you associate with and why do you fear sharing it?

“GOD  WHO IS ETERNAL, HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS SATANIC PHYSICAL MORTAL WORLD…”

Seriously!! The God I serve is active all around me.

“ALL WOMEN WERE SATAN’S PROPERTY THROUGH EVE’S SIN AS SHE SINNED FIRST AND SATAN FOR THE FIRST EVER TIME OCCUPIED H…[Read more]

If you believe and teach something that is not true, it effects your other teachings that even if they are true.

“A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough.”

Hi Jodi

You: Hi Carmel,

NO, what you say is all wrong.

Luke 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Ja…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

NO, what you say is all wrong.

Luke 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and…[Read more]

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>Hi Jodi,</span>

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>You: When Jesus was baptized he then was born of God’s Spirit!</span>

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>Berean: There is a difference between </span>

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>being born of the Spirit and </span>

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>“the spirit of the LOR…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

YOU: There is a difference between being born of the Spirit and “the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him”

ME: Please further explain your position with scripture. 

Being born of God IS to have God’s Spirit coming to rest upon you, abode in you.

Matthew 3:16 and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him…[Read more]

Hi to all

Here is the Daily Devotional

How to grow in grace

And God can shower you with all kinds of graces, so that, having always in all things the means to satisfy all your needs, you will still have plenty for every good work, as it is written: He gave largesse, he gave to the needy; his righteousness endures forever. (2 Corinthians 9:8,…[Read more]