Proclaimer replied to the topic Is “evening and morning” proof of 24-hour days in Genesis? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 months, 4 weeks ago
There have been many of God’s Sabbath rests in God’s Feasts alone. Obviously, we are not in the 7th day Sabbath rest.
You are entitled to believe that God rested for a 24 hour period after creating a universe in 6 x 24 hour days and even before the sun was supposedly created on Day 4.
But I personally think any rational thinking person is not goi…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 4 weeks ago
At least you can’t say that the belief of two powers in Heaven held by enough people as a legitimate interpretive framework drawn from biblical texts as early as 560 BCE is a modern interpretation.
Have you heard of the Targums?
LU
Proclaimer wrote a new post 6 months, 4 weeks ago
Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing
Hawking said: “Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing”. Let’s challenge this statement. It is DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 4 weeks ago
I asked for scriptural proof and NOT writings of a scholar christianizing the Jewish scripture with his thoughts.
Daniel 7:9–14: Describes the “Ancient of Days” (God) on a fiery throne, followed by “one like a son of man” who approaches on clouds, receives everlasting dominion, and is served by all peoples. Early Jewish interpret…
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 4 weeks ago
Regarding the “two powers in Heaven” it is easier for me to just copy and paste the information from GROK. It saves me quite a lot of time trying to explain. Here it is word for word:
Overview of “Two Powers in Heaven” in Early Judaism
The concept of “Two Powers in Heaven” (often rendered from the rabbinic Hebrew shnei rashuyot…[Read more]DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months ago
We can take a slight pause on the Deut 10 :17 after you give me an analogy that is not comparing apples to oranges and shows that you are grasping the pattern.
Not trying to grasp a “pattern”; I’m looking at the grammatical structure of the sentence…facts. Did you not read the grammar break down of the sentence? This concept is from…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 7 months ago
Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 7 months ago
Hi all
Vice President JD Vance Publicly Rejects the Separation of Church and State During a Turning Point USA Event.
On Wednesday, October 29, 2025, Vice President J.D. Vance spoke at the University of Mississippi during the first Turning Point USA campus event since the assassination of Charlie Kirk. About 10,000 people attended the gathering.…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months ago
I’m happy to tell you about the Two Powers of God, actually referred to as the “Two Powers of Heaven”.
The concept of “two powers in heaven” (often described as binitarianism in modern scholarship) refers to an early Jewish theological framework that posited two divine figures or manifestations sharing authority in the heavenly…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months ago
We can take a slight pause on the Deut 10 :17 after you give me an analogy that is not comparing apples to oranges and shows that you are grasping the pattern. Make it follow this form: the name of a unity of persons = the title or category of each member in the unity.
Israel is the name of a unity, the House of Jacob. Israel=Jacob…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months ago
So, let me ask you if you know about the belief that enough early Jews (before Jesus came), believed that the Tanak was speaking about two powers of God, so much so, that the orthodox Jewish rabbis made a declaration about that belief?
Don’t be a tease, back up what you say; provide proof to that statement and the “two powers” of G-d.
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months ago
You are making no sense, obviously the nation of Israel came from Jacob and his sons; where does G-d claim to be more than one. Please provide the passages that support this “trinitarian” claim (do you notice how you are avoiding the question??).
Can we please finally put G-d/the Jesus “unity” of Deut 10:17 to rest; I understand gra…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months ago
You wrote:
You’re reaching and your analogy doesn’t work; you’re using an example of two physical separate identities and trying to make them one.
I am showing you that the name of the unity called Israel is made up of a man that God named Israel (Jacob) + Jacob’s sons. The unity called Israel is echad…one in a united sense of be…[Read more]DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months ago
If I were to say: Israel is Jacob and sons. Would you agree that the statement shows that Israel is more than one person?
You’re reaching and your analogy doesn’t work; you’re using an example of two physical separate identities and trying to make them one. Whereas G-d NEVER refers to HIMSELF as a multi “being”; christianity created t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months ago
All good questions!
You wrote:
If I were to say my shirt is black and white, does that mean I have two shirts? Absolutely not!!!! It means my shirt has two colors, black and white. This grammatical concept is the same being used in the Deut 10:17 passage. This passage simply states YHWH is G-d above all other gods and Lord above all…
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months, 1 week ago
“For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who does not show partiality, nor take a bribe.”
I understand that verse to show that YHWH is God and Lord, two persons.
If I were to say my shirt is black and white, does that mean I have two shirts? Absolutely not!!!! It mea…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months, 1 week ago
You ask:
where does it say the meaning of the Tetragrammaton is the “fullness of G-d” and that it represents each of G-d’s “presences”?
Deuteronomy 10:17
“For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who does not show partiality, nor take a bribe.
I understand t…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months, 1 week ago
You realize “Yahweh” is translated to “Lord”…right? So wouldn’t “Lord” also be an appropriate name to use?
When you understand that YHWH is a name for the fullness of God as well as the name of each presence of God, i.e. Father, Son and Holy Spirit
YHWH is yud, hei, vav, hei (Hebrew) and is the “unpronounceable” name of G-d; wher…[Read more]
Proclaimer wrote a new post 7 months, 1 week ago
Who Wrote the Code?How Did Life Get Its Instructions? Where does the information that shapes life come from? DNA is more than a chemical structure; it is a complex code.
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 7 months, 1 week ago
@Proclaimer @Berean @DesireTruth
When you understand that YHWH is a name for the fullness of God as well as the name of each presence of God, i.e. Father, Son and Holy Spirit, many things in the Bible become easier to understand. Give it a try, ask the Holy Spirit to illuminate this and open your heart and mind.
Be blessed, LU
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